4 hours ago, austinfan said:

Notice Avery has settled in as a SLB, sometimes it's the right player waiting for the right DC. Avery was always a better fit at LB (too short to be a DE).

I prefer to notice that the DC that was in charge at the time never used him, and so it was a terrible decision to make the trade.  Unless Howie knew he was going to be firing the DC in two years and replace him at the time he made the trade.

 

That was still a bad trade, even if he turns into a Pro Bowler.   Because at the time of the trade, and with the DC and system we used, he was completely uninvolved.

Idk who did this pic of Russell Wilson but I’m dying over here cause his face with the body is hilarious 

 

Just now, Ipiggles said:

And If that army fails?, when they actually put boots on the ground, dont underestimate what armed civilians protecting their home lands can do, Vietnam showed us that. 

 

I am not sure, I know ours was just a scant 245 years ago.  And most societies collapse before they hit 500 years. 

I mean, if your billion dollar army fails.....isn't that a way bigger concern for you? 

Also, America (and even here in Canada) isn't going to be taken over like they attempted in Vietnam. The land mass is just so astronomically bigger that it's not feasible. 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Historically, reading the amendment separately from the militia and the right to bear arms individually is a recent development in case law.   That said, since you put it in an historical perspective and I like to discuss history, let’s do so.   When the British marched on Concord, the purpose was to seize a cache of arms in the town.  The colonialists were in the habit of storing the town powder and weapons in Powderhouses as gunpowder was volatile and not to be stored in homes. Those colonists had lost grandparents in King Phillip’s War and weren’t that removed from the French and Indian War, twenty four years prior.  While the British viewed the weaponry as a threat to armed rebellion, the colonists viewed these as weapons of protection.  Such protection most often in the form of local militia, like the Minutemen.  Pistols at the time were seen as relatively unreliable weapons.  The majority were rifles and some small cannon.  Those same founding fathers and their progeny would continue to face hostilities with the native populations for the next 100 years.  Not a threat in everyday life today, nor does your town have a militia or form a posse.

Each of the thirteen colonies had versions of the 2nd amendment in their fledgling state constitutions.  The second amendment as proposed by Madison stated:  

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.”

Undoubtedly, the founding fathers considered the right to just rebellion against a tyrannical government as part of the decision to protect armament in an amendment as well as protection from natives.  But ownership of guns was limited by economics and the nature of such arms was much different from the arms available today as is the differences for people deciding to arm.

Read in context, people have the right to bear arms so as to act as a well regulated militia, might be the more accurate portrayal of what they meant with some recognition that especially westward, so protection might more realistically be individual. 

we will agree to dissagree. 

 

The right of the people to bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. 

 

It really couldn't be more clear. 

13 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

As an outsider....I think the 2nd amendment is incredibly stupid in modern society. It made sense 200 years ago, but times change. 

Leave it alone my man. Our cousins to the South are who they are.

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

No, times don't change.  It is needed today and will be needed in the future as much as it was 200 years ago.  It's there for the people to keep the government in check from overstepping their bounds. 

Yep, those assault rifles will come in handy against Cobras and M1 tanks. And they're good for shooting down F-15s.

You think your local redneck militia would last five minutes against a Marine battalion?

If you're worried about tyranny, you should be for universal military service.

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Oh ya? Did Thomas Jefferson post the first blog on the internet back in the day? 

John Quincy Adams. Our ancestors all wanted Jefferson but we passed on him.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can't believe Ruggs is walking around right now. I guess the Corvette being low to the ground hitting a Rav4 had something to do with it, but i'm not a physicist 

gigantic crumple zone with the engine now in the back too. Its pretty impressive for the safety of that vehicle regardless.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

John Quincy Adams. Our ancestors all wanted Jefferson but we passed on him.

Pretty sure Ben Franklin was the OG Shocker

43 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Posting a video of a qb not seeing you open might have something to do with that

4 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I couldn't resist posting this Shailene Woodley quote:

"Take medical advice from your taxi drivers" lol

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Lets go!

Another great signing by Howie.

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Leave it alone my man. Our cousins to the South are who they are.

Eh I like to have discussions. I think we're all being pretty civil so far? 

6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

And If that army fails?, when they actually put boots on the ground, dont underestimate what armed civilians protecting their home lands can do, Vietnam showed us that. 

 

I am not sure, I know ours was just a scant 245 years ago.  And most societies collapse before they hit 500 years. 

Uh, the Viet Cong were decimated, it was the North Vietnamese regular army that did most of the fighting.

24 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

  

LOL And the right for people to bear arms is why? To hunt? 

I have to remind myself who I am talking to. DUde, your takes on Hurts, Mahommes, and the 2nd amendment all have one thing in common..............

 

I highly recommend Jack Rakove's Original Meanings. I acknowledge that it is light on Hurts and Mahomes, but it's pretty solid about the Constitution.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Yep, those assault rifles will come in handy against Cobras and M1 tanks. And they're good for shooting down F-15s.

You think your local redneck militia would last five minutes against a Marine battalion?

If you're worried about tyranny, you should be for universal military service.

You're so right bro. Pointing your fingers at them and saying "bang" works much better.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Another great signing by Howie.

Good news, the affects of his signing will be with us next year too!

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

JFC.....it is taking everything I have to refrain from jumping all over this........I took a persuasive speech class in college and this was my finals topic.  

Lol....let it outtttttttt!

2 hours ago, greend said:

Here, new law. Everyone going to a bar must surrender their drivers license and car keys to be picked up upon leaving if they are not "visibly intoxicated".

Gotta pass a breathalyzer.

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I was thinking about it more from the perspective of the victim of the accident.  One second, driving home with her dog.   We don't need to get into what happens next.

For the victim it's sad and depressing.   That goes without saying.  For Ruggs it's shameful, embarrassing and, like I said, a waste.  Wasted his life and that woman's life.

Wouldn't it make sense to just keep the brace?

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

You're assuming that the Billion dollar will fall in line with the government

 

He was talking about America being invaded like Vietnam. Which will never happen. 

11 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Oh ya? Did Thomas Jefferson post the first blog on the internet back in the day? 

 

The invention of the internet has been eliminated the potential of a government becoming tyrannical over its people? 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Wouldn't it make sense to just keep the brace?

Yes.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Good news, the affects of his signing will be with us next year too!

As is Howie's custom.