41 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Too scared to fight its own citizens AR-15 to AR-15? Cowards. 

Time to stock up on our own attack drones. 

Not a firearm because drones have wings not arms.  I mean I guess sometimes they do have those four helicopter propellers.  Maybe those Amazon drones will have arms but my point is not covered by the 2nd amendment.  

 

41 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

I am an ar owner

I don't care. 

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

I mean, prohibition of alcohol has been tried, and it failed spectacularly. We know what will happen if we try that. 

And you are a responsible gun owner. But I think it's a pretty well known fact that obtaining a gun in America is ridiculously easy? Like, go to a gun show and there's no background checks at all, is my understanding? 

That's a terrible defense.   We tried to prohibit alcohol and created more problems than we had before... so we gave up on that.   But, guns... we haven't tried taking guns away from people, I'm sure that will go well and there won't be any negative repercussions.

 

As for that last part, your understanding is flawed.

https://www.showmastersgunshows.com/pa-purchase-requirements.html

What do I need to bring to purchase a firearm?

You need one (1) form of I.D.

• One must be a government issued State photo I.D. with current address
  • an original, not a copy
  • must be obtained at least 30 days prior to attempted purchase

The state police run a program called PICS (Pennsylvania Instant Check System) for background checks to determine if the individual is eligible to acquire/purchase a firearm or still be considered eligible to possess a "License to Carry a Concealed Firearm."

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a terrible defense.   We tried to prohibit alcohol and created more problems than we had before... so we gave up on that.   But, guns... we haven't tried taking guns away from people, I'm sure that will go well and there won't be any negative repercussions.

 

As for that last part, your understanding is flawed.

https://www.showmastersgunshows.com/pa-purchase-requirements.html

What do I need to bring to purchase a firearm?

You need one (1) form of I.D.

• One must be a government issued State photo I.D. with current address
  • an original, not a copy
  • must be obtained at least 30 days prior to attempted purchase

The state police run a program called PICS (Pennsylvania Instant Check System) for background checks to determine if the individual is eligible to acquire/purchase a firearm or still be considered eligible to possess a "License to Carry a Concealed Firearm."

Yes I wasn't sure of the exact laws, and I'm sure it varies state to state. But this is my understanding of the simplicity of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

 

And I should add my position has never been to outright ban guns. Not at all. Just increase significantly the barriers to obtaining them, and limit the actual gun types available to civilians. 

My god what is going on in here 😂

For you literalists out there, the Constitution says nothing about the right to bear ammunition.

Which 1 Free Agent do you think we should target most in Free Agency?  No gun talk answers please

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The answer is that the nation always had a standing army.  It was exceedingly tiny, but the original Continental Army was reduced in size about 9 months after the official signing of the Treaty of Paris to end the American Revolution.  That army remained in place, to give the 'teeth' needed so that the peace talks could continue without threat of Britain to change their minds and restart the war.  September 1783, the Treaty of Paris was signed.  June 1784, the Continental Army was reduced to 80, and then the First American Regiment was created.  This was a group consisting of about 700 members, from 4 different state militias, to help hold and defend the frontier.   It was soon recognized that this force was not large enough to defend the vast stretch of frontier and quickly was expanded.  By 1793, that number had grown to over 5000 members.   The First American Regiment went through some changes in names, sizes and after the War of 1812 was consolidated with a few other Infantry groups, to form the 3rd Infantry, which officially makes the '3rd Infantry' the oldest unit in the US.

 

So, when did America shift to having a standing army?  The answer is: It always had one from before the time it won independence from Great Britain.  It started very small, and gradually grew larger and larger.  The Marines were reestablished in 1798 and have existed since that time.  

Congress at the time was wary of having a standing army, but the country was never without one.  It just wasn't always a big enough one to get the job done without help from other militias or volunteers added for a time, most notably during the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791, where Washington himself led a federal militia of about 12,000 into western PA to put it down and establish the federal government's ability to tax the citizenry.

Six Frigates is a great book about the early history of the US Navy.  

21 minutes ago, Utebird said:

How's the saying go, nobody wins war everyone loses.

I'd amend that to say everyone but the corporate weapons manufacturers and dealers, they made a lot of money though one could argue lost their souls...

You forgot to add the Politicians who also may have won. 

2 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Which 1 Free Agent do you think we should target most in Free Agency?  No gun talk answers please

The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick

Speaking of the right to bear arms, the Texans should have Taylor back. 

3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Which 1 Free Agent do you think we should target most in Free Agency?  No gun talk answers please

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

gave you a little help. 

 

To your first point, one can do all those things without an AR 15 and if thats why they own a gun them why is their first defense always, I need a gun to protect me from my tyrannical government it's my right???

Second point-i didn't bring up AK I'm assuming you meant AR?  AR-15 is the most used gun in mass shootings. It's not about which gun is used to kill one person the most it's about having the ability to kill a large amount of people in a small amount of time or cause more damage from high velocity rounds. Which is why some propose limiting bump stocks,high capacity magazines,high velocity rounds ect and why automatic weapons are banned.

Banning or limiting all of the above won't limit ones ability to do any of the above you listed.

One doesn't need an AR to hunt  or protect ones family, if one wants to shoot one as a hobby them rent one at the range like one would an automatic weapon. If we want to talk about rates and % one firearm is more likely to be used against  oneself or a family member accidentally or purposefully( suicide) than it will ever be used to protect one self from home invasion, serial shooter ect.

As for your reasons, your desire to " show" or have a "conversation piece" about  your AR 15 doesn't outweigh my desire to not have my kid gunned down at school by some nut job with an AR-15 nor are those reasons the founding fathers gave you the right to own a gun.

As much as you think owning an AR 15  is protecting your family and friends I believe not having them in general population protects my family and friends and all the other reasons stated to own one don't outweigh the risks of having them in general pop.

Gave you a little help😒

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Amish Rifle Ryan Fitzpatrick

 Nothing under center either — all pistol and shotgun. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Speaking of the right to bear arms, the Texans should have Taylor back. 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

WRONG. From the beginning, I've said there WAS garbage time in the Chiefs game. Being down 19 with 2:30 to go IS GARBAGE TIME. I never said they only put up points in garbage time. 

I then said its arguable the 49ers had garbage time because they did nothing all game besides 3 points. The score was 17-3 with less than 5 mins to go. Arguable meaning you could make the case it was or wasn't based on how you viewed the game. 

The whole point is Hurts being rated the third highest 4th quarter QB, and how it's mostly because of garbage time. 

 

49ers game wasn't garbage time. They made it a 6 point game with 4 minutes left. That is a game that is well within the realm for the Eagles to have won late if the defense was able to get a stop the following drive. 

 

 

Your assessment that it is mostly due to garbage time is flatout incorrect. Only two games this season had 4thbquarter garbage time and that was the Cowboys and Raiders.   If you want to throw the final TD drive against the Chiefs than you can but other than that every 4th quarter he has produced in were 4th quarters where the Eagles had a chance. 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Lol. That’s how you stop a military insurgency against its own people. 

8 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

You forgot to add the Politicians who also may have won. 

Absolutely, they lost their souls long ago though.

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

you beat me to it... I swear I was gonna do this and then a guy in a wife beater....  

10 minutes ago, St0nedsk8er said:

My god what is going on in here 😂

It helps if you play this as you read all the posts

 

1 hour ago, SB52 said:

You’re forgetting the TB game.

I agree with your assessment of the Chiefs game. It was just a battle of two teams not playing defense.

 

Not forgetting Tampa.  That is also a game where the Eagles brought it down to a 1 score game and if the defense made a stop the following drive then the Eagles would have had a chance to win.  But instead they get a taunting penalty and the Bucs were able to milk the clock with nearly 6 minutes left in the game. 

9 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Which 1 Free Agent do you think we should target most in Free Agency?  No gun talk answers please

Whoever has the biggest guns for arms.  

Goedert, Gallup on offense

Christian Kirksey- LB

 

6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

the millions of dollars of weapons we left to them at the COST OF TAX PAYER MONEY (Of which I am one) and the lives lost for nothing along the way,  says we lost

We didn’t lose.  We accomplished our objective of decapitating Al Queda and getting Bin Laden.  The mistake we made was to then try and rehabilitate Afghanistan to our ideal.  (The Marshall plan worked in the industrialized nations we vanquished in WWII but rehabilitation in China, the Soviet bloc and especially in the third world countries of SE Asia and the island nations, not so much). That was Viet Nam style foolishness in Afghanistan but not a loss at warfare but rather a loss at nation building a tribal conglomeration that wasn’t seeking what we were selling.   Smart move to finally get out. Trump started that and campaigned against forever wars, Biden finished it. (Bipartisan as it gets).   Not perfect on the dismount but I have a friend who flew a copter off the embassy in Saigon who says that they did better than we did in Viet Nam.  (People forget the "boat people” and the refugees in Thailand that weren’t adults in the seventies.).  We didn’t lose, we finally got smart that continuing as an outsider to participate in a civil war is a fools errand.  Korea, Viet Nam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan.  Some lessons are hard to learn. 

2 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Whoever has the biggest guns for arms.  

Goedert, Gallup on offense

Christian Kirksey- LB

 

MattMcGlinchy?

EDIT To be clear- I support the Covid Vaccine, I do not support the COVID vaccine Mandates

 

 

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I'm trying to stay out of this as much as I can, but just so everyone is tracking...an AR is literally a ranch rifle that looks 'cool'.  The 5.56/223 round is designed to kill varmint.  Also most mass shootings are done with handguns...and that's enough.  /convo you're welcome.