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Football team with Covid problems again. 

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I loved both Ferrell and Thomas as prospects; both were taken way too high.  That's the reality of DL becoming a premium position for more and more teams now.  

The more I watch Jermaine Johnson and David Ojabo the more impressed I am, though.  I'd be happy with either of those guys at 19 or 20.  Ojabo's production is almost as good as Hutchinson's on the same Michigan DL.  Hutchinson appears to have a non-stop motor, but that shouldn't be a knock against Ojabo.  Johnson has power to go along with speed and he looks quite good playing the run.

Drake Jackson and Kingsley Enagbare look very good too. I'd be inclined to let the board play out rather than force a pick.  

I liked Ferrell, for us as a team that likes stronger ends to maintain the edge and let DTs push the middle of the pocket.  I never thought he was top 5 worthy.  That was nuts.

I knew Sol Thomas sucked.  I said it in here and people thought I was an idiot.  Like with Barnett.

I don't know if we will finally go for athletic speed rushers,  but this class is full of them in the late round 1, early 2 range.  E have picks perfectly in range for a Drake Jackson, Johnson, Sanders, or Enegbare.  Maybe we should take 2 of them. 

If you can't get a sure fired stud on the DL, better to just build up depth, because they rotate 8 guys. Fresh legs with some talent is better than wearing down a few good players.

15 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I would.  We have solid options for the IOL.

We have an abject lack of high-end talent on defense.

I'm leaning this way though of course adding LBaum would be very nice.

18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I would.  We have solid options for the IOL.

We have an abject lack of high-end talent on defense.

True, but Howie also seems to be allergic to drafting high end talent on defense.

47 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

 

Wendell Smallwood revenge game 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Wendell Smallwood revenge game 

We've been burned by no name RBs before, just as by Joe Webb.  Can't take any opponent lightly. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

True, but Howie also seems to be allergic to drafting high end talent on defense.

He spent 18/19/20 trying to build around Wentz.

He finally found a WR.  The OL is solid and stocked.  

Unless he commits to the QB solution, which is still a possibility, look for an investment in the DL.

29 minutes ago, mattwill said:

So If Linderbaum is there when the Eagles pick in the 1st Round, you would pass on him?

I'd run to the podium to pick him.  Mailata, Dickerson, Linderbaum for the next 5-7 years would be outrageous. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Wendell Smallwood revenge game 

Clement beat him to block a punt Sunday night, if he blames Howie look out! 

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Why not just keep Jordan Howard?

We can have both.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

He spent 18/19/20 trying to build around Wentz.

He finally found a WR.  The OL is solid and stocked.  

Unless he commits to the QB solution, which is still a possibility, look for an investment in the DL.

Oh, I expect him to try... I just have very little faith he'll get it done.  Derek Barnett, Sydney Jones... 

Incidentally he struggled in trying to build around Wentz as well... Unless Dillard, JJAW and Reagor are foundational pieces.  (Dillard gets an asterisk, as he might be an above average LT, but has had limited opportunity and has been beaten out by an athletic freak.  But the reality is that asset spent on Dillard has returned very little... same with JJAW and Reagor continues to serve as a source of frustration for all.)    But, we can hope that he can turn around his failures in 2022.  2021 looks promising.  2020 still looks like a mess.  But some will hail it because it brought us Hurts.   Hurts is what he is... a top backup.  He's yet to prove he's more than that.  The best pick might be Driscoll, but he's struggled to remain healthy.  Let's hope that trend ends.  

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Oh, I expect him to try... I just have very little faith he'll get it done.  Derek Barnett, Sydney Jones... 

Incidentally he struggled in trying to build around Wentz as well... Unless Dillard, JJAW and Reagor are foundational pieces.  (Dillard gets an asterisk, as he might be an above average LT, but has had limited opportunity and has been beaten out by an athletic freak.  But the reality is that asset spent on Dillard has returned very little... same with JJAW and Reagor continues to serve as a source of frustration for all.)    But, we can hope that he can turn around his failures in 2022.  2021 looks promising.  2020 still looks like a mess.  But some will hail it because it brought us Hurts.   Hurts is what he is... a top backup.  He's yet to prove he's more than that.  The best pick might be Driscoll, but he's struggled to remain healthy.  Let's hope that trend ends.  

As I stated before, I think Howie has a good grasp on how to build a roster.  He has 2017 as a notch on that belt.

He failed miserably at trying to keep the window open.  Stupid extensions.  Bad FA signings.  Poor use of draft capital.

I believe that the mission is clearer for him now than the post-SB years.

The Tony the Tiger Bowl is Noooooot Great

 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yep.  Bunch of guys who don't catch it,  but run good decisive strong runners. 

What do you think of Rachaad White from ASU?  Looks to have natural hands and some good jump-cuts.  Not explosive, but seems to find the holes pretty well.

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I believe that the mission is clearer for him now than the post-SB years.

The mission in the draft should remain the same... add the best pieces for the future.  He's failed miserably in that for about 4 years.  

I've said my piece regarding 2017 and since on multiple occasions, so I won't rehash it all again.  

54 minutes ago, RLC said:

I think he'll go top 15, but yes.

Taking a C in RD1 is poor value, especially one that likely won't hit 300 lbs. I'm not drafting a C in RD1 unless he has perfect measurables for the position. Besides, Stoutland has shown he can take late-round picks and turn them into starters. We have Seumalo, Dickerson AND Driscoll on the roster can that play center. Personally, I would turn Seumalo into a C as I don't want to move Mailata/Dickerson. Seumalo is 6'4, 303. He has seen enough football to help in blitz protection. Any loss of speed he has due to the foot injury matters less at C than G. 

Disagree. If he’s there, grab him.

For the last several years Kelce has been our most valuable OL. Linderbaum is the closest thing to him you will ever see. Seumalo goes to RG and we have a beast OL.

21 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

What do you think of Rachaad White from ASU?  Looks to have natural hands and some good jump-cuts.  Not explosive, but seems to find the holes pretty well.

I think I’m the only one who likes him as a 3rd day pick, so he must be awful, lol. 

13 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Disagree. If he’s there, grab him.

For the last several years Kelce has been our most valuable OL. Linderbaum is the closest thing to him you will ever see. Seumalo goes to RG and we have a beast OL.

I don't disagree with that sentiment, but for the last 3 years, he's pretty much been the only one that's played game in and game out.  

 

I do like the idea of a beast OL though.  

6 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

As I stated before, I think Howie has a good grasp on how to build a roster.  He has 2017 as a notch on that belt.

He failed miserably at trying to keep the window open.  Stupid extensions.  Bad FA signings.  Poor use of draft capital.

I believe that the mission is clearer for him now than the post-SB years.

He's not stupid. I don't think he'll repeat the same mistakes.

He salvaged the disaster that was the dream team and handed Chip a loaded roster. He fixed Chip's implosion.

The post-SB hangover was his worst period.

I think he's best when he doesn't have to deal with a HC with "pull" who wants to win now, AR with the dream team, Chip with his "my way or the highway," Pederson and Schwartz after they won the big game and "knew" what they needed to return.

I never bought "they hired Siranni b/c they could control him," rather, Indy has become a well run organization where the focus is more than this season under Ballard.

Grigson (Eagle FO) 2012-16, started with a bang, Luck, Fleener (2nd rd), Hilton (3rd rd), but his next four drafts were meh at best, Kelly C (2016) was the best player of that group.

Ballard took over in 2017, Hooker S (#15), Davenport OT (#130), Mack RB (#143), Stewart DT (#154), 2018:  Nelson G (#6), Leonard (#36), Smith G (#37), Lewis DE (#64), Hines RB (#104), Wilkins RB (#159), Franklin LB (#235), 2019: Okereke LB (#89), Willis S (#109); 2020: Pittman (#34), Taylor (#41), Campbell WR (#59), Blackmon S (#85), Pinter OL (#149); 2021:  Paye DE (#21).  Good drafts but not spectacular, he has had his share of misses.

Traded a 1st for Buckner DT, traded a 1st and 3rd for Wentz, traded a 6th for Pryor and a 7th.

Signed Glowinski G to 4 year deal. Picked up Rhodes CB on waivers, signed to 1 year deals. Sendejo S one year FA. Reed G FA (2yr/$3M).

Moore CB (UDFA), Pascal WR (UDFA), Alie-Cox TE (UDFA), Odum S (UDFA)

Team wasn't built on high draft picks, a combination of mid-round picks, judicious trades and UDFA/SFAs. Player development has been key for them, it's not that they've hit on a lot of "hidden gems," rather they've turned later round picks and UDFAs into solid contributors.

I think that's what made Sirianni appealing, coming from an organization that knew how to elevate players rather than buy them.

 

 

 

 

Just looking at the 2022 free agency class and man the DB and WR market are loaded. Doubt we make a huge splash ala Adams but hopefully we can fill in some blanks.

7 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

I think I’m the only one who likes him as a 3rd day pick, so he must be awful, lol. 

I think it depends what the Eagles want in their RBBC.  Most people would think they'll look for a bruiser to complement Sanders and Gainwell, but I don't think the Eagles see Sanders in their long term plans.  It might be a year before the Eagles look to draft a RB to fill that spot, but if they take one in 2022 White looks to have both running and receiving ability.

He's also done a bit of KR/PR although very infrequently.  Walterfootball has him projected from Round 3 to 5 and a projected 4.55 40 time.  He looks a bit faster than that to me but his long speed looks better than his burst.

12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think it depends what the Eagles want in their RBBC.  Most people would think they'll look for a bruiser to complement Sanders and Gainwell, but I don't think the Eagles see Sanders in their long term plans.  It might be a year before the Eagles look to draft a RB to fill that spot, but if they take one in 2022 White looks to have both running and receiving ability.

He's also done a bit of KR/PR although very infrequently.  Walterfootball has him projected from Round 3 to 5 and a projected 4.55 40 time.  He looks a bit faster than that to me but his long speed looks better than his burst.

 Others sites have him in the 4th - 6th round probably since he’s only really had one year at the FBS level.  With Edwards being his coach, that may move him up draft boards.
 I like his his style of running, and he’s a good a pass catcher, plus he’s not beat up and he doesn’t look to be an easy guy to tackle either. 
 Because of my work schedule I saw way too many Arizona and Nevada games this season, it why I push the Carson Strong narrative too much.  

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

He's not stupid. I don't think he'll repeat the same mistakes.

He salvaged the disaster that was the dream team and handed Chip a loaded roster. He fixed Chip's implosion.

The post-SB hangover was his worst period.

I think he's best when he doesn't have to deal with a HC with "pull" who wants to win now, AR with the dream team, Chip with his "my way or the highway," Pederson and Schwartz after they won the big game and "knew" what they needed to return.

I think he's best when he has no where to go but up.  How many times have we been reminded that they were 4-11-1 last year?  And should we be reminded of who was in charge and rode the high of the Super Bowl right down in the gutter?   

 

This reminds me of a professor I had back in college... decades ago for my freshman seminar course.  He said, "Most freshmen ask the wrong question when they are only interested in grades... they ask, 'How do I get an "A"?'"  He said, that's the wrong question.  Any fool can fall into an A once... the better question is... "What do I need to do to keep an A?"   

 

We rip Banner apart for what he did at the end... for his 30 rule... for his handling of the Brian Dawkins situation, but what he really did was maintain a level of excellence for the better part of a decade.  Any given year from 2000 through 2008, they had a chance... injuries not withstanding to get to and win the Super Bowl in every year, as evidenced by the streak of championship game appearances.  Granted, they never got there, I think in large degree because they never believed in the WR position, but wanted to throw constantly... and because I truly believe that the Patriots stole that Super Bowl in 2004.  (That and a freak injury to Chad Lewis in the NFCCG that cost him playing in the Super Bowl, elevating LJ Smith to TE1, where he cost the team dearly early in that game and a more reliable target makes the plays that he didn't.)  

 

Neither Banner nor Howie are perfect, both are flawed.  Howie corrected some of Banner's mistakes, but then he has also overcorrected the 30 rule to a ridiculous level and put the team into this new cap mess, much greater than Chip ever did.  Most importantly, neither one was or is a scout... and they need to rely on the true personnel people, not go with their gut, or whims.