17 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What if there are more ties?  

Tie doesn't impact LA vs. LV as they're both 9-7. So they'd be 9-7-1.
Tie would mean Miami passes Baltimore if they win, but not Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh would be 9-7-2. A tie is worth 0.5 wins, so Pittsburgh would still be ahead of Miami.

So yes, technically a tie in Baltimore/Pittsburgh would be bad. That won't happen given how Harbaugh doesn't ever play for ties.

15 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Posts like this is why people think you are trolling. 

17-18 plays drafted since 2018?

22 starters on offense and defense...  

Eliminate the back 7.  None of them qualify.  *for Maddox as the nickel (that's 1.)
Look at the DL.  Sweat.  That's 2.   (Barnett was drafted in 2017, Hargrave was a FA, and Cox was 2012.) 
If you want to count Edwards, sure... go ahead, another asterisk as he was a UDFA, but let's count him.  That's 3.

Shall we do the offense now? 
Mailata, Dickerson... That's it on the current OL.   You want an asterisk for Opeta/Herbig?  Ok.  That's 3 more.  Total up to 6.

Geodert, Sanders, Hurts, Smith, Watkins and Reagor*.  Asterisk on Reagor because he's only starting by default, not merit.  6 more.

 

So, that's a total of a dozen, at most.   That's not 17-18 by any stretch.  Stop the hyperbole.

 

17 hours ago, Original Sin said:

I can see Russ or Rodgers as WFTs QB

 

 

Russ has connections to the area.  He grew up in Virginia.   I could see the owner wanting to do something because they have had very little positive go on this season.   I am not sure why Rodgers would want to go to WFT.  At this point, I think the Packers are more likely to move on from Jordan Love in the offseason than Rodgers.  

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Red Wolves makes the most sense.  They'll want to do their song and they'll want to keep the R in the logo. 

 

I look forward to their rebranding.  I think it could be cool....if done right.  Now all they would need to do is get that owner out of there and get a new stadium in NOVA most likely.  I doubt very seriously they'd go back inside the beltway.  

I think they'll screw it up. Seems very Danny like to do so. 

They should call them....The....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Redskins

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Marcus Epps should be extended. He’s basically Brian Dawkins, same skill set and all 

I like Epps but it seems like you like like Epps.  

11 hours ago, TorontoEagle said:

Next he’ll say Howard has the same skill set as Bo Jackson. I’m surprised he hasn’t compared Sanders to Barry yet, honestly. I mean they do have the same last name

Boston Scott definitely has the same skill set as Gale Sayers

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I think they should name them the Renegades and then use the Styx song as their pre game hype song just to piss off bacarty
 

Because I’m just like that.  

FYP

11 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

They should call them....The....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Redskins

Hail to the Pigskins!

I’m sure, they have it all worked out… Marvelous Avengers or something.

13 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

They should call them....The....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Redskins

 

Would be the best move. 

For all the back and forth in here about us making the playoffs, the polarization of Hurts opinions etc, I think there's a middle ground most of us are good with. Yes, we beat up on the crappy teams. Yes, we have no wins against playoff teams. Most odds makers have us losing in the first round, and rightfully so. And we may get stomped in the first round. 

But, what was the alternative? They can only play who was on their schedule. This season has been unpredictable. Arizona lost to Detroit a few weeks ago. Buffalo lost to Jax. There's plenty more examples of good teams losing to bad. The Eagles beat up on bad teams, sure, but @downundermike will protest that he isn't cheering against the team, yet, you could easily infer from his posts that he would have preferred we lost every game for a super high draft pick. On the flip side, RTK allows no discussion on Hurts, as any criticism he flies off the handle and pumps him up. It's wild on both sides. 

Stranger things have happened, and we may even win a playoff game. As a fan, that's a good season for me. 31 teams fail to win the Super Bowl every year, this year will be no different. But we didn't back into the playoffs with a crappy record, we won our way in and even secured a mini-bye if we want it. We still have 3 first rounders next year, and with Miami missing out and hopefully losing this week, one of those picks should be a premium one. I think most in here acknowledge that we beat up on lesser teams, and that there are still major questions surrounding the team. Nobody is claiming us to be a top 3 team by any stretch. But confidence goes a long way in the playoffs, lest we forget our Super Bowl run. 

This isn't exactly the offense many of us want to run, but, it is effective. Against good defense's too, which have nothing to do with the crappy QBs we've played. With Hurts likely returning next year, we'll probably trot out the same type of offense, hopefully with some upgrades to RB. There's no reason to think we can't be a top 10 offense. It may be ugly, but a similar team in Tennessee has almost secured the #1 seed running a similar, ugly offense. An infusion of defensive talent with low cost draft picks should have us in contention for the playoffs again next year. After that, we'll have all the cap space needed to either acquire a vet QB if Hurts can't get it done (a la Lamar Jackson, which I think is where we're headed), or Howie will make a trade up in the draft to acquire a QB if they really like one. 

Overall, I feel like the arrow is pointing up on this team. I didn't feel that way at certain points this season, but looking at it as a whole, it's certainly trending the right way. We've gotten younger, we have some nice building blocks, and found an identity. There's been posts that people are worried Lowie will get locked into Hurts long term, but nothing has really shown that yet. Why worry about that until it actually happens, if it ever does? Enjoy the unexpected ride this year, and we'll have tons of time between Feb-April to discuss how to add to the team. 

In terms of the draft and our positioning, it seems there's not a lot of top end talent, but lots of 4 star types available. Which is even better for us considering the quantity of picks we have. Howie had a good draft last year, if he can build on that and have another good one this year, we should be very nicely setup to contend moving forward. Of course the QB question remains, but that's not likely to be solved anytime soon. 

I'm ready for the playoffs, and it appears we'll draw Tampa. How sweet would it be to once again kick Brady's arse in the playoffs and knock them out? And if Brady crushes us (which is more likely to happen), so what? All the pressure is on them anyway. And, we get the highest draft pick of the playoff teams anyway at that point. 

13 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

For all the back and forth in here about us making the playoffs, the polarization of Hurts opinions etc, I think there's a middle ground most of us are good with. Yes, we beat up on the crappy teams. Yes, we have no wins against playoff teams. Most odds makers have us losing in the first round, and rightfully so. And we may get stomped in the first round. 

But, what was the alternative? They can only play who was on their schedule. This season has been unpredictable. Arizona lost to Detroit a few weeks ago. Buffalo lost to Jax. There's plenty more examples of good teams losing to bad. The Eagles beat up on bad teams, sure, but @downundermike will protest that he isn't cheering against the team, yet, you could easily infer from his posts that he would have preferred we lost every game for a super high draft pick. On the flip side, RTK allows no discussion on Hurts, as any criticism he flies off the handle and pumps him up. It's wild on both sides. 

Stranger things have happened, and we may even win a playoff game. As a fan, that's a good season for me. 31 teams fail to win the Super Bowl every year, this year will be no different. But we didn't back into the playoffs with a crappy record, we won our way in and even secured a mini-bye if we want it. We still have 3 first rounders next year, and with Miami missing out and hopefully losing this week, one of those picks should be a premium one. I think most in here acknowledge that we beat up on lesser teams, and that there are still major questions surrounding the team. Nobody is claiming us to be a top 3 team by any stretch. But confidence goes a long way in the playoffs, lest we forget our Super Bowl run. 

This isn't exactly the offense many of us want to run, but, it is effective. Against good defense's too, which have nothing to do with the crappy QBs we've played. With Hurts likely returning next year, we'll probably trot out the same type of offense, hopefully with some upgrades to RB. There's no reason to think we can't be a top 10 offense. It may be ugly, but a similar team in Tennessee has almost secured the #1 seed running a similar, ugly offense. An infusion of defensive talent with low cost draft picks should have us in contention for the playoffs again next year. After that, we'll have all the cap space needed to either acquire a vet QB if Hurts can't get it done (a la Lamar Jackson, which I think is where we're headed), or Howie will make a trade up in the draft to acquire a QB if they really like one. 

Overall, I feel like the arrow is pointing up on this team. I didn't feel that way at certain points this season, but looking at it as a whole, it's certainly trending the right way. We've gotten younger, we have some nice building blocks, and found an identity. There's been posts that people are worried Lowie will get locked into Hurts long term, but nothing has really shown that yet. Why worry about that until it actually happens, if it ever does? Enjoy the unexpected ride this year, and we'll have tons of time between Feb-April to discuss how to add to the team. 

In terms of the draft and our positioning, it seems there's not a lot of top end talent, but lots of 4 star types available. Which is even better for us considering the quantity of picks we have. Howie had a good draft last year, if he can build on that and have another good one this year, we should be very nicely setup to contend moving forward. Of course the QB question remains, but that's not likely to be solved anytime soon. 

I'm ready for the playoffs, and it appears we'll draw Tampa. How sweet would it be to once again kick Brady's arse in the playoffs and knock them out? And if Brady crushes us (which is more likely to happen), so what? All the pressure is on them anyway. And, we get the highest draft pick of the playoff teams anyway at that point. 

One of the more sensible posts in some time. Kudos.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

@TorontoEagle, Wasnt gonna copy your entire post but basically how I feel(If I understood this correctly). 

If you think about the Eagles are in a perfect spot. 

17ish games to figure out what Hurts is.  (you may or may not like what they figured out)

17 games to figure out what NS is (read above)

You ate up a terrible cap year

You get 3 first rounders next year

You made the playoffs. 

Outside the Dolphins, Colts and Eagles alll having terrible years and getting 3 picks int he top 7, this is the 2nd best outcome in my opinion

Yeah basically. I mean we never had control over the Dolphins/Colts picks anyway. Worked out that Wentz stayed healthy long enough to get that extra first. Unlucky for us that after both had terrible starts they strung together winning streaks, but, c'est la vie. At least now the Dolphins could end up giving us the 10th/11th or so with a loss this week. That's a pretty good return for trading down and still getting Smith, plus dumping Wentz and his contract. I liked Wentz a lot, but he's going to be 30 next year, and had a super bloated contract with us compared to the results he was giving us. And he really didn't want to be here, clearly, which is his prerogative. Howie deserves some credit for getting out of that and getting us a good return. 

I don't think Hurts is the long term answer. But, you can run him back next year because of his contract. Build up all around him, and then make the ultimate decision at the end of next year. If he can improve as a passer (I'm not sure he can, but, we'll find out), you may have something to go with. If he can't....cut bait and go find a guy who Sirianni wants. Again, I think overall we're trending up. This is a critical offseason though, we really need to nail this draft to setup the defense for the next 5-6 years. 

9 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Nothing to refute…I’m not a Hurts guy either. And sorry, I don’t retain knowledge of other anonymous rando’s screen names on an internet football message board.

I thought we were past the hurts huggers/wentz nuts whatever as a whole at this point.  That was why I said that lol.  

I think the best case scenario......we win the Super Bowl AND HAVE 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS!!!  Jesus some of you guys aim low!   Ok.....I'm going back to my drinking, as you were.

We have 9 picks in the first 5 rounds in what should be a very deep (we don't care about quality at the top, but quality in the middle) draft, plus another pick for Dillard.

And Howie will move around the draft, maximizing value and targeting players, that's his strongest point.

There's a chance to nail some solid depth players in the middle rounds to go with some top talent at the top of the draft, not just adding a few starters, but filling out the depth chart with cheap talent that's NFL ready - that's the advantage of those seniors who returned and who are 23-24 years old and physically mature.

How many teams can make the playoffs and then add a draft haul like the Eagles are set up to add this spring? And you can consider players like Gowan as part of this draft, he was added too late to contribute this season. Same with Vincent and McCain. Stockpiling for TC, I love when the TC roster is full of young players with upside, rather than scrubs added just to have enough bodies to fill two practice fields (b/c of COVID, the in-season practice squad was a mix of prospects and marginal veterans who could fill in if needed like Malveaux).

And by 2023, most of the dead money will be off the books as the cap escalates. I don't worry too much about the cap b/c you only have a 1-2 "value" FA targets each year, that is, players like Hargrave entering their peak seasons who can be obtained at reasonable cost, otherwise I'd rather extend guys like Mailata, Goedert and Sweat than overpay a "name" past his peak years. Over 30 players for the most part should be one year deals like Wilson, who you can cut without pain if they don't work out.

31 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

For all the back and forth in here about us making the playoffs, the polarization of Hurts opinions etc, I think there's a middle ground most of us are good with. Yes, we beat up on the crappy teams. Yes, we have no wins against playoff teams. Most odds makers have us losing in the first round, and rightfully so. And we may get stomped in the first round. 

But, what was the alternative? They can only play who was on their schedule. This season has been unpredictable. Arizona lost to Detroit a few weeks ago. Buffalo lost to Jax. There's plenty more examples of good teams losing to bad. The Eagles beat up on bad teams, sure, but @downundermike will protest that he isn't cheering against the team, yet, you could easily infer from his posts that he would have preferred we lost every game for a super high draft pick. On the flip side, RTK allows no discussion on Hurts, as any criticism he flies off the handle and pumps him up. It's wild on both sides. 

Stranger things have happened, and we may even win a playoff game. As a fan, that's a good season for me. 31 teams fail to win the Super Bowl every year, this year will be no different. But we didn't back into the playoffs with a crappy record, we won our way in and even secured a mini-bye if we want it. We still have 3 first rounders next year, and with Miami missing out and hopefully losing this week, one of those picks should be a premium one. I think most in here acknowledge that we beat up on lesser teams, and that there are still major questions surrounding the team. Nobody is claiming us to be a top 3 team by any stretch. But confidence goes a long way in the playoffs, lest we forget our Super Bowl run. 

This isn't exactly the offense many of us want to run, but, it is effective. Against good defense's too, which have nothing to do with the crappy QBs we've played. With Hurts likely returning next year, we'll probably trot out the same type of offense, hopefully with some upgrades to RB. There's no reason to think we can't be a top 10 offense. It may be ugly, but a similar team in Tennessee has almost secured the #1 seed running a similar, ugly offense. An infusion of defensive talent with low cost draft picks should have us in contention for the playoffs again next year. After that, we'll have all the cap space needed to either acquire a vet QB if Hurts can't get it done (a la Lamar Jackson, which I think is where we're headed), or Howie will make a trade up in the draft to acquire a QB if they really like one. 

Overall, I feel like the arrow is pointing up on this team. I didn't feel that way at certain points this season, but looking at it as a whole, it's certainly trending the right way. We've gotten younger, we have some nice building blocks, and found an identity. There's been posts that people are worried Lowie will get locked into Hurts long term, but nothing has really shown that yet. Why worry about that until it actually happens, if it ever does? Enjoy the unexpected ride this year, and we'll have tons of time between Feb-April to discuss how to add to the team. 

In terms of the draft and our positioning, it seems there's not a lot of top end talent, but lots of 4 star types available. Which is even better for us considering the quantity of picks we have. Howie had a good draft last year, if he can build on that and have another good one this year, we should be very nicely setup to contend moving forward. Of course the QB question remains, but that's not likely to be solved anytime soon. 

I'm ready for the playoffs, and it appears we'll draw Tampa. How sweet would it be to once again kick Brady's arse in the playoffs and knock them out? And if Brady crushes us (which is more likely to happen), so what? All the pressure is on them anyway. And, we get the highest draft pick of the playoff teams anyway at that point. 

Winning these games was better than the alternative. We saw young players take a step forward this year. We saw Sirianni take a step forward. Gannon… I still don’t know. The schedule was so easy with bad opposing QBs that I’m not sure we learned much.

I know some folks are worried about this playoff run deluding Howie and Lurie into thinking this team is better than it is, but I don’t that’s the case. We’re in a different place now than in recent years. We can’t talk ourselves into "we just need to not be ravaged by injuries.” Yeah, we lost Brooks, Seumalo and Graham, but outside of maybe Seumalo, these guys aren’t going to be around in 2023, and we were relatively healthy this year. We aren’t playing a bunch of PS corners or Jamin Brown and his ill-fitting gloves. We don’t have a QB who played at an MVP level en route to a Super Bowl win. We’re no longer chasing 2017, and trying to talk ourselves into Wentz being that guy. Lastly, we have three first-round picks. We have Dillard and Minshew to dangle in trade talks if needed. We have serious ammunition to get better and younger. 

I don’t believe Hurts is the guy long-term, but he’s played "ok enough” that he buys optionality as a stop gap as we either build the roster up or find the right deal for a QB. 

Overall, this was a really productive year for the Eagles. 

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

We have 9 picks in the first 5 rounds in what should be a very deep (we don't care about quality at the top, but quality in the middle) draft, plus another pick for Dillard.

And Howie will move around the draft, maximizing value and targeting players, that's his strongest point.

There's a chance to nail some solid depth players in the middle rounds to go with some top talent at the top of the draft, not just adding a few starters, but filling out the depth chart with cheap talent that's NFL ready - that's the advantage of those seniors who returned and who are 23-24 years old and physically mature.

How many teams can make the playoffs and then add a draft haul like the Eagles are set up to add this spring? And you can consider players like Gowan as part of this draft, he was added too late to contribute this season. Same with Vincent and McCain. Stockpiling for TC, I love when the TC roster is full of young players with upside, rather than scrubs added just to have enough bodies to fill two practice fields (b/c of COVID, the in-season practice squad was a mix of prospects and marginal veterans who could fill in if needed like Malveaux).

And by 2023, most of the dead money will be off the books as the cap escalates. I don't worry too much about the cap b/c you only have a 1-2 "value" FA targets each year, that is, players like Hargrave entering their peak seasons who can be obtained at reasonable cost, otherwise I'd rather extend guys like Mailata, Goedert and Sweat than overpay a "name" past his peak years. Over 30 players for the most part should be one year deals like Wilson, who you can cut without pain if they don't work out.

I mean, yes, it's nice to load up on youngsters for TC. But let's be serious. Gowan/Vincent/McCain haven't done anything, haven't shown anything anywhere. Their original teams who invested a draft pick in them let them go for peanuts. Obviously fine to buy the lottery ticket, but you seem to be thinking that they'll be winning numbers. Nothing has shown that to be true. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Red Wolves makes the most sense.  They'll want to do their song and they'll want to keep the R in the logo. 

 

I look forward to their rebranding.  I think it could be cool....if done right.  Now all they would need to do is get that owner out of there and get a new stadium in NOVA most likely.  I doubt very seriously they'd go back inside the beltway.  

Maybe, I kinda like Warriors 

20 minutes ago, austinfan said:

How many teams can make the playoffs and then add a draft haul like the Eagles are set up to add this spring?

Yes, we have picks, but we have not made a "haul" yet.  Have to consider the guy making the picks, and now the three 1st round picks are in the Howie Roseman Dillard, Reagor and Barnett area.  Hopefully he listens to football folks when making these picks, or its all for nothing.

This popped up on my YouTube feed 🙄

33 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

I think the best case scenario......we win the Super Bowl AND HAVE 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS!!!  Jesus some of you guys aim low!   Ok.....I'm going back to my drinking, as you were.

 

Jalen Hurts leading a deep playoff run would stress out so many people here. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

They better not keep Football Team

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

For all the back and forth in here about us making the playoffs, the polarization of Hurts opinions etc, I think there's a middle ground most of us are good with. Yes, we beat up on the crappy teams. Yes, we have no wins against playoff teams. Most odds makers have us losing in the first round, and rightfully so. And we may get stomped in the first round. 

But, what was the alternative? They can only play who was on their schedule. This season has been unpredictable. Arizona lost to Detroit a few weeks ago. Buffalo lost to Jax. There's plenty more examples of good teams losing to bad. The Eagles beat up on bad teams, sure, but @downundermike will protest that he isn't cheering against the team, yet, you could easily infer from his posts that he would have preferred we lost every game for a super high draft pick. On the flip side, RTK allows no discussion on Hurts, as any criticism he flies off the handle and pumps him up. It's wild on both sides. 

Stranger things have happened, and we may even win a playoff game. As a fan, that's a good season for me. 31 teams fail to win the Super Bowl every year, this year will be no different. But we didn't back into the playoffs with a crappy record, we won our way in and even secured a mini-bye if we want it. We still have 3 first rounders next year, and with Miami missing out and hopefully losing this week, one of those picks should be a premium one. I think most in here acknowledge that we beat up on lesser teams, and that there are still major questions surrounding the team. Nobody is claiming us to be a top 3 team by any stretch. But confidence goes a long way in the playoffs, lest we forget our Super Bowl run. 

This isn't exactly the offense many of us want to run, but, it is effective. Against good defense's too, which have nothing to do with the crappy QBs we've played. With Hurts likely returning next year, we'll probably trot out the same type of offense, hopefully with some upgrades to RB. There's no reason to think we can't be a top 10 offense. It may be ugly, but a similar team in Tennessee has almost secured the #1 seed running a similar, ugly offense. An infusion of defensive talent with low cost draft picks should have us in contention for the playoffs again next year. After that, we'll have all the cap space needed to either acquire a vet QB if Hurts can't get it done (a la Lamar Jackson, which I think is where we're headed), or Howie will make a trade up in the draft to acquire a QB if they really like one. 

Overall, I feel like the arrow is pointing up on this team. I didn't feel that way at certain points this season, but looking at it as a whole, it's certainly trending the right way. We've gotten younger, we have some nice building blocks, and found an identity. There's been posts that people are worried Lowie will get locked into Hurts long term, but nothing has really shown that yet. Why worry about that until it actually happens, if it ever does? Enjoy the unexpected ride this year, and we'll have tons of time between Feb-April to discuss how to add to the team. 

In terms of the draft and our positioning, it seems there's not a lot of top end talent, but lots of 4 star types available. Which is even better for us considering the quantity of picks we have. Howie had a good draft last year, if he can build on that and have another good one this year, we should be very nicely setup to contend moving forward. Of course the QB question remains, but that's not likely to be solved anytime soon. 

I'm ready for the playoffs, and it appears we'll draw Tampa. How sweet would it be to once again kick Brady's arse in the playoffs and knock them out? And if Brady crushes us (which is more likely to happen), so what? All the pressure is on them anyway. And, we get the highest draft pick of the playoff teams anyway at that point. 

We were arguably the best team in the league in 2017