1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

If you are going to cry I'm going to enjoy the tears

"Oh, so you just want to troll?"

As if that motherFer doesn't spend most of his time on here doing just that. 🤣🤣🤣

1 minute ago, lynched1 said:

"Oh, so you just want to troll?"

As if that motherFer doesn't spend most of his time on here doing just that. 🤣🤣🤣

How dare you!

Watch out or @Paul852 will roll up on you in his 2012 Chevy Malibu

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Watch out or @Paul852 will roll up on you in his 2012 Chevy Malibu

If that 3.6L doesn't grenade on the way up......

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Watch out or @Paul852 will roll up on you in his 2012 Chevy Malibu

2012? So unnecessary. 

24 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Yeah, because the country they were fighting was NSDAP Germany.  "The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

And together we kicked that Notsee F’ing ass!

Just now, The_Omega said:

And together we kicked that Notsee F’ing ass!

Then fast forward to the Long telegram, the Berlin Airlift, NSC-68, Korea, Vietnam, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Berlin Wall, Angola, SALT II falling apart, Nicaragua, etc

19 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Then fast forward to the Long telegram, the Berlin Airlift, NSC-68, Korea, Vietnam, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Berlin Wall, Angola, SALT II falling apart, Nicaragua, etc

And then they weren't an ally. Happens all the time.

46 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Good timing. I got you.

You got sheet, just like IRL

46 minutes ago, Captain F said:

Oh. I agree completely.  Russia needs to gtfo. But the US shouldn't be footing the bill for it to happen.  

Convenient cowardice

this is why have the worlds best war machine. Like it or not we are generally the world police

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

You got sheet, just like IRL

As if you'd know.

Have you considered talking about something you might know something about? 

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Convenient cowardice

this is why have the worlds best war machine. Like it or not we are generally the world police

All packed up are you? Zelensky is looking for a few good men. With the level of attrition I'm sure he wouldn't turn you down either. 

Think of all that "policing" you could do.

That'd show us!

(Reuters) - Ukraine's parliament said on Monday that the country's security was ensured by support from the United States and described President Donald Trump's peacekeeping efforts as "decisive" in efforts to end the three-year-old war with Russia. 

A statement issued in English three days after a public row in the White House between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Washington's support was "more crucial than ever for the Ukrainian people".

"The Ukrainian people desire peace more than anyone else in the world and believe that the personal role of President Donald Trump and his peacekeeping efforts will be decisive in the swift cessation of hostilities and the achievement of peace for Ukraine, Europe and the entire world," it said.

 

https://share.newsbreak.com/buut6qle?s=i16

54 minutes ago, It Hurts said:

"The Ukrainian people desire peace more than anyone else in the world and believe that the personal role of President Donald Trump and his peacekeeping efforts will be decisive in the swift cessation of hostilities and the achievement of peace for Ukraine, Europe and the entire world," it said.

Those poor NSDAP's don't know what's good for them. The war has fogged their minds. Someone get those people some AR15's for God sake....

7 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

I'm not sure iif this has been posted and it is a long watch.  But context matters.  This is the ENTIRE meeting.  What most of the U.S. and the world saw was the final 3 or so minutes of the Oval Office meeting with Zelenskyy. 

There is a time and place for everything and unfortunately, Zelenskyy, from the beginning of the meeting,, began to attack Putin,  handed over pictures of damages done to  Ukraine - which only Trump could see  and raised his voice when demanding that Russia pay 100% of the rebuild cost of Ukraine.     AND that's absolutely fine and to be expected AT THE RIGHT TIME AND PLACE. 

He went on to continuously correct Trump, in the Oval Office, in front of the world - and that too could of been acceptable BUT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS - not in The White House - in The Oval Office - in front of the World.   This went on for the better part of 30+ minutes.  

JD Vance began to speak about issues and Zelenskyy once again confronted Vance - and that too is 100% OK BUT NOT AT THAT TIME.  This went on and escalated to the disaster everyone witnessed a few days ago. 

 

 

If after watching the entire video - knowing the context - that they are in the  Oval Office as a simple way to show unity to the world prior to signing the agreement (NOT THERE TO NEGOTIATE TERMS , CORRECT EACH OTHER AND ARGUE OVER WHO GAVE MORE MONEY, ETC)   AND  you still believe Zelenskyy was "setup or ambushed" then I'm sorry to tell you, you''re wrong. 

That said, the guy who criticized Zelenskyy for not wearing a suit was just as embarassing and disrespectful to the Oval Office by making that statement there, in front of the media etc - (Again, that would have been fine behind closed doors but not at that time or place).

JD Vance - bless his heart - also took it a little over the top when pointing and saying, "You're wrong"  - not something that should ever be done among world leaders, in the Oval Office, in front of the world.  Trump had defended himself fine up to that point and JD Vance;'s initial statements were enough to show him defending both Trump and the country - no need to ever point fingers at a world leader, telling him he's "wrong" in that scenario.  That type of stuff - along with most of the  arguing, etc should always take place behind closed doors - in a "War Room" so to speak. 

 

My 2 Cents.

 

Sorry mate but that is a pathetic take. 

4 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Watch out or @Paul852 will roll up on you in his paid for 2012 Chevy Malibu

Fyp - now go make your monthly car payment, what’s the interest rate?

6 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

I'm not sure who's idea it was to have the meeting in the Oval Office prior to the deal being signed but it was an obvious mistake.  Even if they wanted to have a brief meeting, photo op, to show unity in the Oval Office prior to the meeting/signing,  it should have been exactly that.  And everyone involved should have been coached and advised on "keeping it simple and brief".

Obviously none of that happened. 

As far as partisan politics or what was said through the media, social media, etc - that should have all been ironed out behind closed doors. 

The standard protocol is 1) very short meeting in Oval Office with press ; 5-10 minutes of intro and one or two setup softball questions  2) actual meetings/negotiations  3) longer meeting with press to explain status and next steps ; press gets to ask the tougher questions. 
 

The hosts of this meeting either intended it to be a longer gathering or failed to cut it off. 

@DrPhilly you called it correctly. What a disgraceful day. This "day” and time will live in infamy going forward…

7 hours ago, Captain F said:

Oh. I agree completely.  Russia needs to gtfo. But the US shouldn't be footing the bill for it to happen.  

You do realize the bill we will get if Russia isn’t stopped? Do you realize the cost of betraying our allies? Do you understand history at all? 

We think we can do business with the world without having any skin in the game. The last time we decided on isolationism, 400,000 Americans died. 
 

The payment will soon be due for our hubris. 

14 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

Who had the American president turning into Putin's little lapdog on their 2025 Bingo card?

I mean, it was pretty obvious once Trump was elected that Putin would have a lapdog in the White House.

13 hours ago, Procus said:

Probably just another Russian stooge parroting Putin's talking points

You idiots tell yourself the stupidest ish. 

The sad part is that you then start believing your own BS.

And people think this dude knows what he is doing. Only a dumb idiot would believe that 

 

1 hour ago, Bill said:

We think we can do business with the world without having any skin in the game. The last time we decided on isolationism, 400,000 Americans died. 
 

The payment will soon be due for our hubris. 

Only a misguided fool would call this isolationism. You guys have lost the plot 

20 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I mean, it was pretty obvious once Trump was elected that Putin would have a lapdog in the White House.

I asked so many times and never ever got an answer.  What was the endgame in Ukraine??

How long would we support a proxy war there....forever?

 

Again, the Dems were caught with their pants down, forced into a position with no real plan or exit strategy, and have to rely on Trump to take the arrows and bail them out.