30 minutes ago, Thrive said:

We overthink things too much on the blog. Howie is prepping for next off-season when he has to pay Jalen Hurts $40m/year to keep his services. Makes sense to me and good work Howie.

What say you @downundermike @Iggles_Phan @4for4EaglesNest? 
 

Jalen hurts isn’t worth 4 million, let alone 40 million

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if we are clearing cap space to roll it over to next year where they likely believe they are going to be closer to contenders. I haven’t looked at the free agent possibilities but maybe they also believe the potential class is better to spend it on. Guessing make some additions to the roster but not big time big money players. I’d be happy to be wrong though. 

I am hoping that's what they are doing.  But, I'll believe it when I see it.   They would need to pretty much let the rest of FA go without any other significant money spent.  Which is totally fine by me.   Adding Harris was just a money spend.  It doesn't fix a hole, and it doesn't get the team younger.  Just wasted money.  Scott is another example.  He's fine... but he is a dime a dozen.  Plenty of backs available that can do what he does.   Just as a reminder, the Eagles signed LaGarrette Blount for $1.25M after the draft, and he was 10x the player Boston Scott is.  I still haven't got a clue why they felt they needed to lock up Scott so quickly and at $1.75M with $1.1M guaranteed.  If he's just a camp body, as I would like to think would be how they are looking at him, then the guaranteed money should be minimal, so that when he gets beat out in camp by a rookie, there's less dead money to deal with.  (And yes, I know that $1.1M isn't a big deal.  But with Howie... its a million dead here, two million dead there and then $14M somewhere else.   It adds up quickly.)

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is so underwhelming to read 

But,  kinda smart. A S would have been very nice,  and important. 

But the people complaining about dead cap couldn't have wanted to go be big spenders too, could they?

Reddick is a major grab. And if they can get a couple impact players in the 2nd wave that's a good offseason.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

But,  kinda smart. A S would have been very nice,  and important. 

But the people complaining about dead cap couldn't have wanted to go be big spenders too, could they?

Reddick is a major grab. And if they can get a couple impact players in the 2nd wave that's a good offseason.

No.  I wanted to ride FA out without a massive signing.  

Restructuring Slay was smart.

Bringing back Cox was not.

21 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Any trade candidates at WR around the league? Last year of deal, unlikely to re-sign types.

Cooks, Metcalf

If they have cap space, and no one worth signing, there is absolutely no reason to extend Hargrave.  Let him play out his contract or trade him at the deadline.  They held on to Cox too long and paid him too much.  Learn a lesson and get rid of him before his decline begins.  

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Cooks, Metcalf

Howie does love him some Cooks. 

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I am hoping that's what they are doing.  But, I'll believe it when I see it.   They would need to pretty much let the rest of FA go without any other significant money spent.  Which is totally fine by me.   Adding Harris was just a money spend.  It doesn't fix a hole, and it doesn't get the team younger.  Just wasted money.  Scott is another example.  He's fine... but he is a dime a dozen.  Plenty of backs available that can do what he does.   Just as a reminder, the Eagles signed LaGarrette Blount for $1.25M after the draft, and he was 10x the player Boston Scott is.  I still haven't got a clue why they felt they needed to lock up Scott so quickly and at $1.75M with $1.1M guaranteed.  If he's just a camp body, as I would like to think would be how they are looking at him, then the guaranteed money should be minimal, so that when he gets beat out in camp by a rookie, there's less dead money to deal with.  (And yes, I know that $1.1M isn't a big deal.  But with Howie... its a million dead here, two million dead there and then $14M somewhere else.   It adds up quickly.)

Looking at who’s left on the market, the only players i think capable of breaking the bank on is mathieu, zadarius smith and Gilmore. Not sure they really in on any of those guys or those guys don’t have better options than the Eagles in FA. I’d like mathieu but i still think he goes to a contender and gets paid. 

I’d like to see some quality depth guys to build up the roster but I don’t think it’s going to be significant money to sign those guys. As time passes the price drops on those types of players.

So It would have to be a trade acquisition in order to make a big splash. Maybe they go that route with a WR. There’s quite a few WRs who are entering the last year of their rookie contracts or last year of their deals: DK metcalf, aj brown,  diontae Johnson, Hollywood brown, mecole hardman (underwhelming), Brandin cooks are just some of them. 

but I’m with you i hope that’s what they are doing. At this point it makes more sense to go that route. Next year with significant role over and the cap space you have then you can do a lot more and you’d ideally like to think you are closer to being a legit contender. 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

But,  kinda smart. A S would have been very nice,  and important. 

But the people complaining about dead cap couldn't have wanted to go be big spenders too, could they?

Reddick is a major grab. And if they can get a couple impact players in the 2nd wave that's a good offseason.

I don’t care about dead cap per se. There will always be dead money. I care about it being on players past their prime that you should have just bitten the bullet two years ago and not restructured aka Jeffery, Cox, etc.

I just want them to get better. The 2021 team clearly wasn’t going anywhere. Bringing back the same guys minus Barnett, Avery plus Reddick isn’t going to change anything. 

Very happy for Boston and Fletch.  Excited to see what other new pieces we will be adding.  Let's continue to build off last year.   The Birds have all 3 picks going in the draft next month.   You just can't spend that type of draft capitol recklessly.   I can't wait to see what they do on draft day.  

Eagles definitely putting the company line out there through the outlets.

ESP just put his own idiotic take on his. 

Come on Cooks, Metcalf, or Boyd

or…

No brainer

and I wonder what it would take to get Jonathan Abraham from the Raiders?

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles definitely putting the company line out there through the outlets.

ESP just put his own idiotic take on his. 

 

 

ESP is such an idiot.  He was on the radio a week or two ago talking about how the Eagles need to spend their first round picks on offense and not defense.  And here is again talking about needing to add to offense and not defense.  

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Looking at who’s left on the market, the only players i think capable of breaking the bank on is mathieu, zadarius smith and Gilmore. Not sure they really in on any of those guys or those guys don’t have better options than the Eagles in FA. I’d like mathieu but i still think he goes to a contender and gets paid. 

I’d like to see some quality depth guys to build up the roster but I don’t think it’s going to be significant money to sign those guys. As time passes the price drops on those types of players.

So It would have to be a trade acquisition in order to make a big splash. Maybe they go that route with a WR. There’s quite a few WRs who are entering the last year of their rookie contracts or last year of their deals: DK metcalf, aj brown,  diontae Johnson, Hollywood brown, mecole hardman (underwhelming), Brandin cooks are just some of them. 

but I’m with you i hope that’s what they are doing. At this point it makes more sense to go that route. Next year with significant role over and the cap space you have then you can do a lot more and you’d ideally like to think you are closer to being a legit contender. 

I'm not even talking about 'breaking the bank' type players.   I'm talking about spending on any player over the age of 27 and giving them more than $1M over the vet minimum.   They have holes.  So be it.  Wait until after the draft and sign to fill the holes that are left with players like Steven Nelson was last year.  No rush.  There are always players still available after the draft and most of them will cost peanuts.   Meanwhile, with so many holes already, they can still draft defense all day and not force a pick for need.  They just have so many needs.  There's no a single position on the team that can't be classified as a 'need'.

QB - duh.  Hurts isn't the guy, so this is a massive need, but is there a player worthwhile.
RB - Sanders is coming up on the end of his rookie deal, and he's never been durable.  Not much behind him either.  Massive need for 2023 and beyond.
WR - Smith and ???   Definitely a need.  Unlikely they'd go to the well 3 straight first rounds, but if the right player is there, it can't really be argued against because we know that the QB to build around isn't here yet.
TE - Closest thing to not being a need.  We have a question mark at #2.  Minor need, late rounds is where I'd consider this to be 'value'.
OT - Johnson's days are numbered.  And a swing tackle is always nice to have.  Can Mailata's back continue to hold up?   Let's hope those injuries were just for IR purposes.
OG - Massive hole at RG.  Seumalo's deal is up after this year.  Driscoll can't stay healthy, Herbig is a backup.  Can't argue against an OG.
C - Kelce is back.  That's not a long term solution.  This is a need for the future.

DE - Giant hole, even with Reddick.  They need pass rushers desperately.
DT - Cox is back for one last ride.  Hargrave will be aging out of his prime.  Do we need a 0-technique nose?  
OLB - Who is there on the roster that we can build around?  No one.
MLB - Giant hole here too.  Edwards is a decent backup and ST.  Not a guy to build around on defense.  Primarily a 2 down LB anyway.
CB - Slay isn't getting younger... this was the time that they used to draft players to replace the vets.  Sheppard and Brown drafted right around this time.  And no one on the other side.
S - Signing Harris doesn't change anything.  Still a massive hole at both positions.  

So... no signing should be for even moderate money unless it will help fill a hole for 2023 and beyond as well.  Anything else would be a waste.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles definitely putting the company line out there through the outlets.

ESP just put his own idiotic take on his. 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm not even talking about 'breaking the bank' type players.   I'm talking about spending on any player over the age of 27 and giving them more than $1M over the vet minimum.   They have holes.  So be it.  Wait until after the draft and sign to fill the holes that are left with players like Steven Nelson was last year.  No rush.  There are always players still available after the draft and most of them will cost peanuts.   Meanwhile, with so many holes already, they can still draft defense all day and not force a pick for need.  They just have so many needs.  There's no a single position on the team that can't be classified as a 'need'.

QB - duh.  Hurts isn't the guy, so this is a massive need, but is there a player worthwhile.
RB - Sanders is coming up on the end of his rookie deal, and he's never been durable.  Not much behind him either.  Massive need for 2023 and beyond.
WR - Smith and ???   Definitely a need.  Unlikely they'd go to the well 3 straight first rounds, but if the right player is there, it can't really be argued against because we know that the QB to build around isn't here yet.
TE - Closest thing to not being a need.  We have a question mark at #2.  Minor need, late rounds is where I'd consider this to be 'value'.
OT - Johnson's days are numbered.  And a swing tackle is always nice to have.  Can Mailata's back continue to hold up?   Let's hope those injuries were just for IR purposes.
OG - Massive hole at RG.  Seumalo's deal is up after this year.  Driscoll can't stay healthy, Herbig is a backup.  Can't argue against an OG.
C - Kelce is back.  That's not a long term solution.  This is a need for the future.

DE - Giant hole, even with Reddick.  They need pass rushers desperately.
DT - Cox is back for one last ride.  Hargrave will be aging out of his prime.  Do we need a 0-technique nose?  
OLB - Who is there on the roster that we can build around?  No one.
MLB - Giant hole here too.  Edwards is a decent backup and ST.  Not a guy to build around on defense.  Primarily a 2 down LB anyway.
CB - Slay isn't getting younger... this was the time that they used to draft players to replace the vets.  Sheppard and Brown drafted right around this time.  And no one on the other side.
S - Signing Harris doesn't change anything.  Still a massive hole at both positions.  

So... no signing should be for even moderate money unless it will help fill a hole for 2023 and beyond as well.  Anything else would be a waste.

yep. Don't forget, June 1st cuts, post draft trades and players who might be available in TC.  

Underrated really good game from Hurts last season.  Defense just couldn't stop Mahomes from scoring TDS on all their drives except one when they got an interception.

 

66.7%, 387 yards passing, 2 TD passes, 0 interceptions, 47 rushing yards on 8 attempts.  

 

 

We have lots of premium draft picks. Unless you're getting good value (Reddick), why overspend for mediocrity? That's way worse for the cap when bringing back Cox, Kelce, etc.

 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

We have lots of premium draft picks. Unless you're getting good value (Reddick), why overspend for mediocrity? That's way worse for the cap when bringing back Cox, Kelce, etc.

Well, we just paid $4M for Harris…

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm not even talking about 'breaking the bank' type players.   I'm talking about spending on any player over the age of 27 and giving them more than $1M over the vet minimum.   They have holes.  So be it.  Wait until after the draft and sign to fill the holes that are left with players like Steven Nelson was last year.  No rush.  There are always players still available after the draft and most of them will cost peanuts.   Meanwhile, with so many holes already, they can still draft defense all day and not force a pick for need.  They just have so many needs.  There's no a single position on the team that can't be classified as a 'need'.

QB - duh.  Hurts isn't the guy, so this is a massive need, but is there a player worthwhile.
RB - Sanders is coming up on the end of his rookie deal, and he's never been durable.  Not much behind him either.  Massive need for 2023 and beyond.
WR - Smith and ???   Definitely a need.  Unlikely they'd go to the well 3 straight first rounds, but if the right player is there, it can't really be argued against because we know that the QB to build around isn't here yet.
TE - Closest thing to not being a need.  We have a question mark at #2.  Minor need, late rounds is where I'd consider this to be 'value'.
OT - Johnson's days are numbered.  And a swing tackle is always nice to have.  Can Mailata's back continue to hold up?   Let's hope those injuries were just for IR purposes.
OG - Massive hole at RG.  Seumalo's deal is up after this year.  Driscoll can't stay healthy, Herbig is a backup.  Can't argue against an OG.
C - Kelce is back.  That's not a long term solution.  This is a need for the future.

DE - Giant hole, even with Reddick.  They need pass rushers desperately.
DT - Cox is back for one last ride.  Hargrave will be aging out of his prime.  Do we need a 0-technique nose?  
OLB - Who is there on the roster that we can build around?  No one.
MLB - Giant hole here too.  Edwards is a decent backup and ST.  Not a guy to build around on defense.  Primarily a 2 down LB anyway.
CB - Slay isn't getting younger... this was the time that they used to draft players to replace the vets.  Sheppard and Brown drafted right around this time.  And no one on the other side.
S - Signing Harris doesn't change anything.  Still a massive hole at both positions.  

So... no signing should be for even moderate money unless it will help fill a hole for 2023 and beyond as well.  Anything else would be a waste.

I’m with you. I’m guessing there’s a signing or two before the draft in the second and third wave of FA. Hoping they aren’t older players on multi year deals. I’d only sign guys who are either on cheap 1 year contracts or you know are going to be part of the core of this team when we are out of the rebuild. It’s why i think they went after Williams who was young and a long term solution. 

 in the draft I’m going best available with those picks. I’ve been of the opinion regardless of offense or defense I’m going BPA with those first rounders. those picks aren’t just for 2022 where we have holes but 2-3 years down the road where we have holes.  also said before there was way too many people who believed the Eagles were gonna be able to fix this defense in one off-season just cause they had 3 first rounders and some cap space. It don’t believe it was ever going to be a one year fix. Even with those picks and free agency this year it was likely going to take you at least 2 offseasons and thats if everything panned out. 

 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Well, we just paid $4M for Harris…

Anthony Harris at 4M last year IMO made sense given where he was and that we needed someone who knew the system.

Do we know this year's salary? If it's making 4M again😡

Worst goddamn officiating I have ever seen

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

 

 

Would love to get him but I don't think he will be there by the Eagles first pick.