1 hour ago, schuy7 said:

Kyler Gordon seems to be a sneaky pick for us. I've seen him mocked to us a few times.

I like him, but would rather he be a trade back option. I want more physicality on the defense, he would bring that to the CB position. 

2 hours ago, Know Life said:

I just got off the phone with the officer who took my report this morning. It turns out the ID was stolen, but they do have a couple of suspects.

Apparently, there’s been a few of these robberies.

As far as security goes, I’m picking up some new locks tonight, and will probably look into cameras. 

I also thought about buying a gun (former owner). I owned a Sig about ten years ago but got rid of it—I wish I had kept it now.

This experience is also reminding me of my dog, which I lost about six months ago. She was very intimidating but gentle. I have no doubts she would have protected me, though.

Thank you again for all of your replies. I appreciate them more than you know.

 Ds was just having a Shotgun sale, including ones with a pistol grip and a short barrel. If you don’t have kids a shotgun is tbe perfect home defense weapon, you can pull the plug and load 4 in the magazine, that way when you slide the action to load the first round, that noise enough should scare anyone in your home.   
 Even the best pistol ammo can go through your walls to your neighbors, and since you’re responsible for every round that leaves your gun, a handgun usually won’t be your best choice, not to mention unless you’re within 8t of the perp, it’s not likely you’ll hit them with every shot anyway.  Low velocity bird shot from a 20 gauge will put them down w/o risking anyone the health of your neighbors, plus more importantly, they’ll be dead. You don’t want to maim, or cripple, dead is what you’re going for in that situation. 
 

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This was McShay's first 2022 draft from May of 2021.

Slovis and Rattler as QBs 1&3.  

1. Houston Texans - Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon*
2. Detroit Lions - Kedon Slovis, QB, USC*
3. Jacksonville Jaguars - Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU*
4. New York Jets - Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State*
5. Cincinnati Bengals - Zion Nelson, OT, Miami*
6. Carolina Panthers - Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame*
7. Philadelphia Eagles - Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina*
8. New York Giants - Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
9. New York Giants (via CHI) - Evan Neal, OT/G, Alabama*
10. Las Vegas Raiders - Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida*
11. Denver Broncos - Spencer Rattler, QB, Oklahoma*
12. Atlanta Falcons - Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State
13. Minnesota Vikings - George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue*
14. Arizona Cardinals - Sevyn Banks, CB, Ohio State
15. Washington Football Team - Malik Willis, QB, Liberty*
16. Pittsburgh Steelers - Desmond Ridder, QB, Cincinnati
17. Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA) - Isaac Taylor-Stuart, CB, USC*
18. Los Angeles Chargers - DeMarvin Leal, DL, Texas A&M*
19. New Orleans Saints - George Pickens, WR, Georgia*
20. Philadelphia Eagles (via IND*) - Bubba Bolden, S, Miami
21. Dallas Cowboys - Jalen Wydermyer, TE, Texas A&M*
22. Tennessee Titans - John Metchie III, WR, Alabama*
23. New England Patriots - Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State*
24. Miami Dolphins (via SF) - Nick Broeker, OT, Ole Miss*
25. New York Jets (via SEA) - Zach Harrison, DE, Ohio State*
26. Baltimore Ravens - Rasheed Walker, OT, Penn State*
27. Cleveland Browns - Drake Jackson, DE/OLB, USC*
28. Detroit Lions (via LAR) - Mike Jones Jr., LB, LSU*
29. Green Bay Packers - Christian Harris, LB, Alabama*
30. Buffalo Bills - Josh Jobe, CB, Alabama
31. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Isaiah Spiller, RB, Texas A&M*
32. Kansas City Chiefs - Xavier Thomas, DE, Clemson
 

 Most of the mocks from back then did have Rattler and Howell, usually in the top 4-5 picks. Even Willis makes sense since his tape was better in 2020, than it was in 2021. I don’t get the love anyone had for Slovis, Hurts looks like Mahomes, next to Slovis.  He took the famous, weak armed USC QB, and doubled down.  
 Unless something awful comes out about Will Anderson, he should easily hold the top spot for 2023.., maybe. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Well said and the big issue is when one of the bad apples does make a mistake (Floyd) the media runs with it and makes the country think that's the sort of treatment that all police give to suspected criminals, especially of color.  Simply not true.  

What we're seeing now is a direct result of police forces being undermanned now due to funding or some that hung it up because of what was happening and more lenient enforcement.  Just look at places like California where shoplifting is now a sport for some because the penalties are far less than they should be.  

 

The shoplifting in California has nothing to do with policing.

As for police not being funded? Come on now, the police are over funded.

Part of the de fund the police movement isn't about decreasing police forces it's about funding other areas that can do the work we ask our police to do that they aren't trained to do, like be social workers.

De fund police is a ridiculously horrible phrase, whoever came up with it needs to quit there marketing job and go back to selling lemonade, it's a mis leading term.

Most police officers are asked to do way too much in their community beyond their training why not instead re allocate some of those police funds to departments  that can work in conjunction with police in lightening the load while serving communities In tandem.

Point still stands that the most effective way of decreasing crime is by providing people with basic needs.Housing, food, healthcare, education, all have shown to be factors in decreasing crime where as increased police funding has never shown to have any correlation or causation in decreasing crime.

7 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The shoplifting in California has nothing to do with policing.

As for police not being funded? Come on now, the police are over funded.

Part of the de fund the police movement isn't about decreasing police forces it's about funding other areas that can do the work we ask our police to do that they aren't trained to do, like be social workers.

De fund police is a ridiculously horrible phrase, whoever came up with it needs to quit there marketing job and go back to selling lemonade, it's a mis leading term.

Most police officers are asked to do way too much in their community beyond their training why not instead re allocate some of those police funds to departments  that can work in conjunction with police in lightening the load while serving communities In tandem.

Point still stands that the most effective way of decreasing crime is by providing people with basic needs.Housing, food, healthcare, education, all have shown to be factors in decreasing crime where as increased police funding has never shown to have any correlation or causation in decreasing crime.

I don't disagree with some of your points but there are videos out there of shoplifters going right past police (could just be security) but the police aren't even being called.  IMO, that's a result of policing.

Regarding funding, yes some are overfunded but you can look at Minneapolis, who drastically cut funding, and crime has risen. 

Regarding your last point about the most effective way, I think the most important thing is having a solid family foundation and education.  You look at a lot of your inner city crime and I bet the family situation is poor and more than likely, the father figure is either deep in crime himself or non-existent.  For many, crime is a way of life because of the culture they grow up in where it gains you street cred and is done for fun.   

9 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 Ds was just having a Shotgun sale, including ones with a pistol grip and a short barrel. If you don’t have kids a shotgun is tbe perfect home defense weapon, you can pull the plug and load 4 in the magazine, that way when you slide the action to load the first round, that noise enough should scare anyone in your home.   
 Even the best pistol ammo can go through your walls to your neighbors, and since you’re responsible for every round that leaves your gun, a handgun usually won’t be your best choice, not to mention unless you’re within 8t of the perp, it’s not likely you’ll hit them with every shot anyway.  Low velocity bird shot from a 20 gauge will put them down w/o risking anyone the health of your neighbors, plus more importantly, they’ll be dead. You don’t want to maim, or cripple, dead is what you’re going for in that situation. 
 

 Most of the mocks from back then did have Rattler and Howell, usually in the top 4-5 picks. Even Willis makes sense since his tape was better in 2020, than it was in 2021. I don’t get the love anyone had for Slovis, Hurts looks like Mahomes, next to Slovis.  He took the famous, weak armed USC QB, and doubled down.  
 Unless something awful comes out about Will Anderson, he should easily hold the top spot for 2023.., maybe. 

I'm not a big gun advocate I tend to advocate against ownership of guns as the chances ones gun will be used against one self or a family member accidentally or purposefully far outweighs the chances one will ever use it in self defense, so for me just looking at odds I'm keeping my family sage by not owning a gun.

Having said that my wife and I have discussed gun ownership in the house extensively and some ways one can mitigate  the dangers of a gun to oneself and family In the home is by making sure that the firearm and ammo are secure, in a gun safe, locked up away from kids ect. Secondly get educated about gun safety and gun use. Take a class, many are offered by local police stations.

As for the rest, I agree about what was said about the shotgun 

A shotgun would be my first choice for home defense 

 

 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I don't disagree with some of your points but there are videos out there of shoplifters going right past police (could just be security) but the police aren't even being called.  IMO, that's a result of policing.

Regarding funding, yes some are overfunded but you can look at Minneapolis, who drastically cut funding, and crime has risen. 

Regarding your last point about the most effective way, I think the most important thing is having a solid family foundation and education.  You look at a lot of your inner city crime and I bet the family situation is poor and more than likely, the father figure is either deep in crime himself or non-existent.  For many, crime is a way of life because of the culture they grow up in where it gains you street cred and is done for fun.   

Definitely agree that having a stable home life with stable parents is a pre cursor to decreasing  crime.

And part of having a stable home life is having a family whose basic needs are met.

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Definitely agree that having a stable home life with stable parents is a pre cursor to decreasing  crime.

And part of having a stable home life is having a family whose basic needs are met.

Do you think basic needs are going to keep deadbeat dads around?  Not being sarcastic or smart about that.  Honest question because I think that's problem #1.  Without a positive male role model and father figure, so many of these young men don't stand a chance.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Spring don’t matter for ish.  He’ll platoon in CF with Vierling.  For now.  

He changed his stance and added a decent amount of weight. He might still turn into an okay player.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Do you think basic needs are going to keep deadbeat dads around?  Not being sarcastic or smart about that.  Honest question because I think that's problem #1.  Without a positive male role model and father figure, so many of these young men don't stand a chance.

Research shows that kids don't necessarily need a father and or a mother but they need a stable family, whether that's a mom and dad, two moms, two dad's, a mom and a live in grandparent or aunt or whatever other variation of parents( plural) stability leads to more positive outcomes than what that family looks like. 

I'd tend to think that a family that has it's needs met will be less inclined to crime whether they have a father in their home or not.

But yes I agree not having a father in a home or a mother or worse both is a destabilizing factor in a child's life.

 

32 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The shoplifting in California has nothing to do with policing.

As for police not being funded? Come on now, the police are over funded.

Part of the de fund the police movement isn't about decreasing police forces it's about funding other areas that can do the work we ask our police to do that they aren't trained to do, like be social workers.

De fund police is a ridiculously horrible phrase, whoever came up with it needs to quit there marketing job and go back to selling lemonade, it's a mis leading term.

Most police officers are asked to do way too much in their community beyond their training why not instead re allocate some of those police funds to departments  that can work in conjunction with police in lightening the load while serving communities In tandem.

Point still stands that the most effective way of decreasing crime is by providing people with basic needs.Housing, food, healthcare, education, all have shown to be factors in decreasing crime where as increased police funding has never shown to have any correlation or causation in decreasing crime.

Defunding the police movement is largely a spiteful movement pushed by Marxists and people anti-police. And it has adversely affected departments. Departments around the country had to shut down specialized units, and cut down on their number of officers. For example, defunding in Portland caused them to have to shut down their Gun Violence Reduction Team. Since then they went on to have a record year in homicides. If you notice, many cities when crime started to rise have reversed course and started increasing funding.

Crime is very complicated and usually can't be analyzed with a broad brush, but there are studies that show every so number of officers equals an decrease in homicides.

The problem is there are no policies to provide housing, food, and healthcare. This country throws billions of dollars every year at homelessness. It hasn't done a thing. A lot of homelessness is caused by drugs. We've lost the drug war. Until we can get people off drugs, it's hard to make a significant dent in homelessness. We can't get people off drugs while we continue to enable drug use in major cities. Hell, many major cities have decided to put money toward injection assistance sites to enable drug use instead of getting addicts and homeless rehab.

Healthcare is a multi trillion dollar issue that won't be solved for years, if ever.

But crime also causes these things. Crime causes poverty as much as poverty causes crime. And poverty in itself doesn't cause crime per se. People don't commit crimes usually because they're poor. People in poor areas commit crimes because poor areas are higher in drug activity, gangs, and younger people get caught up and influenced by that lifestyle.

The best solutions we've had to cut down on crime is adequate funding, tough on crime policies, and strict gun control regulations. That's one area Dallas has cut down on homicides in the past year, one of the few major cities in  the country that saw a reduction in homicides, they invested heavily in gun collection and seizure. However, gun ownership in America has gone up in recent years in part because crime went up and people don't feel safe.

So speaking speaking of crime and gun violence, what eagle defends their home the most poorly?

 

 

 

 

Jalen Hurts.  Only has a bb gun, would pull the trigger too late, would miss anyway, wouldnt see you standing there, and would probably just run.

 

Im here all week guys.

43 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 Ds was just having a Shotgun sale, including ones with a pistol grip and a short barrel. If you don’t have kids a shotgun is tbe perfect home defense weapon, you can pull the plug and load 4 in the magazine, that way when you slide the action to load the first round, that noise enough should scare anyone in your home.   
 Even the best pistol ammo can go through your walls to your neighbors, and since you’re responsible for every round that leaves your gun, a handgun usually won’t be your best choice, not to mention unless you’re within 8t of the perp, it’s not likely you’ll hit them with every shot anyway.  Low velocity bird shot from a 20 gauge will put them down w/o risking anyone the health of your neighbors, plus more importantly, they’ll be dead. You don’t want to maim, or cripple, dead is what you’re going for in that situation.

I agree with you 100%. A shotgun would most likely be my weapon of choice. Though, I will say I was a pretty good shot with the Sig.

23 minutes ago, Know Life said:

I agree with you 100%. A shotgun would most likely be my weapon of choice. Though, I will say I was a pretty good shot with the Sig.

Would not go 12g unless you want to put it through walls and into your neighbor's house as well. Frangible ammo is considered low over penetrating. Get what the marshals use on planes and it shouldn't be an issue.

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So speaking speaking of crime and gun violence, what eagle defends their home the most poorly?

 

 

 

 

Jalen Hurts.  Only has a bb gun, would pull the trigger too late, would miss anyway, wouldnt see you standing there, and would probably just run.

 

Im here all week guys.

He would just run away from the criminal since it's what he does best.

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Defunding the police movement is largely a spiteful movement pushed by Marxists and people anti-police. And it has adversely affected departments. Departments around the country had to shut down specialized units, and cut down on their number of officers. For example, defunding in Portland caused them to have to shut down their Gun Violence Reduction Team. Since then they went on to have a record year in homicides. If you notice, many cities when crime started to rise have reversed course and started increasing funding.

Crime is very complicated and usually can't be analyzed with a broad brush, but there are studies that show every so number of officers equals an decrease in homicides.

The problem is there are no policies to provide housing, food, and healthcare. This country throws billions of dollars every year at homelessness. It hasn't done a thing. A lot of homelessness is caused by drugs. We've lost the drug war. Until we can get people off drugs, it's hard to make a significant dent in homelessness. We can't get people off drugs while we continue to enable drug use in major cities. Hell, many major cities have decided to put money toward injection assistance sites to enable drug use instead of getting addicts and homeless rehab.

Healthcare is a multi trillion dollar issue that won't be solved for years, if ever.

But crime also causes these things. Crime causes poverty as much as poverty causes crime. And poverty in itself doesn't cause crime per se. People don't commit crimes usually because they're poor. People in poor areas commit crimes because poor areas are higher in drug activity, gangs, and younger people get caught up and influenced by that lifestyle.

The best solutions we've had to cut down on crime is adequate funding, tough on crime policies, and strict gun control regulations. That's one area Dallas has cut down on homicides in the past year, one of the few major cities in  the country that saw a reduction in homicides, they invested heavily in gun collection and seizure. However, gun ownership in America has gone up in recent years in part because crime went up and people don't feel safe.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2021/05/19/7-myths-about-defunding-the-police-debunked/

Having said that most of the cities/ counties that " defended" their police received increased budgets the year after which would mean the current increase in crime doesn't correlate with the refund the police it correlates with the increased funding 

Keeping in mind correlation doesn't equal causation 

Having said that as much as one could say the de fund the police is a spiteful movement pushed by Marxist And anti police I could say funding police is largely pushed by pro capitalist corporatists to protect their corporate capitalist interests.

As for poverty and crime, I'll disagree that crime leads to poverty more than or as much as poverty leads to crime.

When people's needs emotional physical  are met drug abuse decrease as well, people with shelter food education healthcare and In stable families are far less likely to abuse drugs and or turn to life's if crime.

The health care issue could be solved yesterday if corporate greed wasnt In the way, Medicare for all would be less expensive than what we currently spend and everyone would be covered, every other industrialized coutry in the world has figured out universal healthcare yet the richest country in the world is just some how too stupid to find cute it out? I'm not buying it, were too greedy.

As for homelessness yeah I agree building more homeless shelters isn't the answer never has been it's a band aid on a sliced artery...☹️

As for best solution in crime, I'd agree with adequate funding, I think the debate is what one considers adequate, I also would say the same for tough on crime policies, I don't w t tough in crime policies I want effective policies on crime, some of our tough on crime policies aren't actually effective at curbing crime they're just tough.

Again what has been shown to decrease crime is when communities basic needs are met.

I figured I would get crazy with the first 2 picks and see how many Howies I could get.

24 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So speaking speaking of crime and gun violence, what eagle defends their home the most poorly?

 

 

 

 

Jalen Hurts.  Only has a bb gun, would pull the trigger too late, would miss anyway, wouldnt see you standing there, and would probably just run.

 

Im here all week guys.

If the perp was to the left of hurts vision he wouldn't even see him.🤷‍♂️

 

24 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So speaking speaking of crime and gun violence, what eagle defends their home the most poorly?

 

 

 

 

Jalen Hurts.  Only has a bb gun, would pull the trigger too late, would miss anyway, wouldnt see you standing there, and would probably just run.

 

Im here all week guys.

Reagor. He’d take selfies of himself acting like he was capable of defending himself while the robbers would just rob him and go. 

Chris Long is still a treasure

Crush it?

 

3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Crush it?

 

🤮

I disagree strongly with the article. When analyzing crime it’s never going to be an exact science. It’s not like mixing two chemicals together to see if they explode. There’s a variety of factors. It’s very circumstantial. The best way to study crime has always been to study trends. People anti police will usually just wave off those trends as anecdotal. But never really provide any proven counters as to why defunding wouldn’t be better. The 94 crime Bill has its issues. But billions of dollars and thousands of officers were added to departments across the country, leading to the first decline in crime in 35 years. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that crime in the US rose every decade from 1960 to the early 90s and then saw its first gradual decline in 1994. And continued to decline every decade until 2020…when what happened? Oh yeah, police started to get defunded.

The reason crime leads to poverty is because property value drops, wealthier people and businesses move out and neighborhoods go on the decline. Poorer families move in, typically broken homes as property value declines. Bringing in younger people more inclined to be criminals or get involved in gangs.

What I can say is soft on crime policies absolutely enable crime. We’ve seen it in California. Decriminalizing petty theft, you have people literally walking in stores just filling up bags with items and walking out and there’s nothing the police can do. Getting rid of cash bail. Allowing dangerous people on the streets. Releasing violent offenders from prison because of COVID overcrowding. DAs choosing not to prosecute people who’ve been arrested a dozen times because they want to be lenient on offenders because they worry about the optics of prison population numbers.

19 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Chris Long is still a treasure

I’m not sure how it originated but he’s currently in a war against Dolphins Twitter 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m not sure how it originated but he’s currently in a war against Dolphins Twitter 

I think this is the start

 

48 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Crush it?