22 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

Brown only costs the Eagles $4m this year.

It's going to be more than that once they update his new contract. That was the number of his old contract. 

17 minutes ago, downundermike said:

None of Browns extension applies this year.  He has a 3.9 cap hit this year.  Eagles have 12.5 in space currently.

His signing bonus will 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's going to be more than that once they update his new contract. That was the number of his old contract. 

Nope.  It is an extension that kicks in 2023.  His cap hit this year is not changing.

4 hours ago, downundermike said:

Oh the irony is so thick.  This is the same guy that ignored me, and anyone who quoted me for making jokes about Ruben Randle after that debacle.

Fact.  Ruben Randle never played another regular season NFL snap after RTK declared him the second best WR on the Eagles roster.

Fact.  Carson Strong will actually play regular season snaps in the NFL.

@HazletonEagle seeing as you are one of the few, the proud, the, unignored, will you quote this and at the fraud for me.

That's not a fact... yet.

So with Davis here now, does anyone think we might trade Cox in june?

4 hours ago, austinfan said:

He has to pass better, that's the bottom line. Doesn't have to throw lasers, just improve mechanics, anticipation, accuracy, and be more efficient.

He doesn't have to be an elite passer, that's the edge that running provides. Just make the plays he needs to make.

But if he can't threaten a team with the pass, the running has less value - like I said, they complement each other.

I'll withhold judgement until we see him this year, in my experience, players with off the wall work ethics are the most likely to make significant jumps early in their career.

Wow.  Now there's a platitude.   If any player can just 'make the plays he needs to make', they'd all be HoFers!  

 

Funny part is, if he can't threaten a team with the pass, the playoff caliber teams and teams with good DCs will just force him to pass and take away the run, just like we saw Tampa do... twice, the Giants did, and pretty much every team that was a playoff team last year.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's going to be more than that once they update his new contract. That was the number of his old contract. 

His signing bonus will 

There was several tweets about it yesterday.  The current contract number for 2022 does not change.  The extension takes effect in 2023.

 

35 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I could just see her making a cup of Sanka.......

Clueless 

 

Pretty hard to scheme for a guy who is going to be all over the field.  Which is kind of the point.  Pretty odd bar TBH.  

Cup of sanka and a slice of Entenmann's coffee cake while sharing a Kool and the afterglow...

4 hours ago, austinfan said:

You mean the guy with the average arm? Who struggled in TB? 2nd season (25 years old), 53.7%, 8-13, QB rating 65.5. Then sat on the bench for 4 years in SF.

Yes, the guy that got REBUILT by Bill Walsh.  Using stats from his time in Tampa... back when they were a punchline.   🤣

20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

Clueless 

 

Pretty hard to scheme for a guy who is going to be all over the field.  Which is kind of the point.  Pretty odd bar TBH.  

Clueless.  Do you really think Hamilton changes the scheme of the routes called?  He’s closer to Elam than Ed Reed.  Really good instincts for his angles but not a player that will overly impact your calls. Will struggle with quick, agile WRs and speed if he doesn’t give cushion.  His size helps with some of that.  

Meanwhile, teams  have to scheme their line calls to account for Davis. They can’t double Cox when Davis is on the field with him.  Middle of the field runs get closed down, pocket pushed back necessitating shorter routes for quicker throws. If Cox, Hargrave or Williams or as @justrelax points out two of the above with Davis, the pocket is going to be squeezed. Then cope with the speed of Sweat, Reddick.  

Just now, downundermike said:

There was several tweets about it yesterday.  The current contract number for 2022 does not change.  The extension takes effect in 2023.

I'd have to see it because that doesn't make sense. Diggs signed an extension and his prorated bonus changed due to the signing bonus 

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Our of curiosity, after seeing how the picks played out, how do we feel about trading pick 16 to the Saints for 101/2023 1/2024 2?

Was there anyone available at that pick that changes your thoughts? I’d say the popular name is Jermaine Johnson, but considering how far he ended up falling he ended up not being as highly thought of as we were led to believe. 

The Eagles are likely going to need those to trade up for a QB next year.  Kyle Hamilton, JJII, etc. aren't as valuable as a QB to build around.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I'd have to see it because that doesn't make sense. Diggs signed an extension and his prorated bonus changed due to the signing bonus 

Brown will now be tied to the Eagles for the next five seasons, as he agreed to a four-year contract extension with Philadelphia for $100 million, including $57 million guaranteed. The contract made Brown the fourth-highest paid receiver in the NFL.

Damn, Justyn Ross goes to the Chiefs. 😑

Just now, downundermike said:

Brown will now be tied to the Eagles for the next five seasons, as he agreed to a four-year contract extension with Philadelphia for $100 million, including $57 million guaranteed. The contract made Brown the fourth-highest paid receiver in the NFL.

Ok. Where does it say anything about his 2022 cap number? Or a signing bonus?

4 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yep.  I don’t know how anyone, who is a football fan, can hate college football.  

I will say... they kill the game a little with the amount of commercials, especially the national championship game, etc.   4 hours for one game without overtime is ridiculous! 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Ok. Where does it say anything about his 2022 cap number? Or a signing bonus?

At ‘extension’ ?

Extension for four years, staying five.

If it was a completely different contract for a player not here before, I don’t see how you’d call it that.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Ok. Where does it say anything about his 2022 cap number? Or a signing bonus?

First thing I found.  The new contract does not kick in until 2023, the signing bonus would not roll backwards to 2022.

Some contract are an extension that  reworks the current year, which then brings the signing bonus into play.

This was not that, it was a new contract starting in 2023.

Just now, downundermike said:

First thing I found.  The new contract does not kick in until 2023, the signing bonus would not roll backwards to 2022.

Some contract are an extension that  reworks the current year, which then brings the signing bonus into play.

This was not that, it was a new contract starting in 2023.

That's not how it works. He gets paid a signing bonus this year, the signing bonus gets prorated across the life of the contract. It doesn't just sit there for next year. 

3 hours ago, justrelax said:

Thought I would dust off the 4i discussion in light of our draft and FA signings. Some thoughts on LBs and DBs too.

To refresh, the first goal of the 4i is to control the opponent's running game with four guys vs. the offense's five OL. The key player in this alignment is the NT, playing a 0-tech, i.e. head-up on the center. Gannon ran quite a bit of this last year but he did not have a true NT who could dominate the opposing center. He tried it with Cox and, as we know, Cox bridled at this. He didn't like having to face double-teams on every snap, which is understandable. In the screen shot above, Hargrave is the 0. He's a nice player but not one to dominate the C through sheer power. Nor did he require a double team. And, because he did not require a double team, there was always a guard with a free run to the MLB.

Well, we have that guy now. Davis requires the double team and, as a result, keeps the MLB clean. Anyone who watched the NCAA playoffs last January will remember Dean running free sideline to sideline, and in our one-and-done playoff, watching David run free because Vea kept him clean. 

My point here is that Davis not only is a better NT than anyone we have had but he makes the MLB a better player too.

Getting back to that four vs. five, the DTs shade into the B gaps and the NT has both A gap responsibilities. The MLB reads the OL at the snap and can fill the A gap or run free to the outside on any wide plays. With the monster at NT you can control the run with four guys.

That leaves you with seven defenders. The two OLBs threaten the edges and can either come or drop into coverage. Their alignment makes setting a hard edge easier and, when they do, that free-running MLB has a clear path to the RB. It also makes passes into the flats more difficult. We saw how the Bucs dominated out bread-and-butter outside zone doing this. Sweeps, stretch plays, outside zones and bubble screens are more difficult to block because the defenders are already there.

Because you can control the running game with four defenders you don't have to walk a safety up into the box and your CBs have less run support responsibilities. That makes those five DBs better players because they're required to do less. You can play with two high safeties, giving support to both sides of the field.

I recall saying , when we signed Reddick, that we were committing to this defense. He's going to be facing single blockers and OTs who are threatened on their inside shoulder by the DTs in the 4i. Tough duty for those OTs.

Thoughts on the DBs and LBs will be deferred to another post.

thank you

Oh shucks 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's not how it works. He gets paid a signing bonus this year, the signing bonus gets prorated across the life of the contract. It doesn't just sit there for next year. 

Yes, a contract that starts in 2023.

Here is the current contract.  We will see when the new numbers come in.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's not how it works. He gets paid a signing bonus this year, the signing bonus gets prorated across the life of the contract. It doesn't just sit there for next year. 

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/lists/eagles-aj-brown-highest-paid-wide-receivers-nfl-contract-details-salary-guarantees-base-average/

 

The Eagles finally secured a dynamic wide receiver to pair with DeVonta Smith, acquiring A.J. Brown from the Titans for the 18th and 101st overall picks.

Brown had been looking for a new deal in Tennessee and immediately agreed to a new 4-year, $100 million contract with Philadelphia, that includes $57 million guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $25 million per season.

In 2022, the final year of his rookie deal, Brown will earn a base salary of $3,986,000, while carrying a cap hit of $3,986,000.

With the trade and new deal in place, Brown leapfrogged several big named and more accomplished receivers on the list, landing at No. 4 in the NFL for average per season.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Oh shucks 

Well ‘Vin thee insider’ did say he would ring the bell so.. might be all speculation / trying to save face.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Oh shucks 

Don’t listen to a word this clown says. He doesn’t have sources and is just trying to cover his tracks.

Howie didn’t have an agreement with him. Totally made up