June 5, 20241 yr "I wasn't dead enough for an abortion": Texas mom blames Trump for almost losing her life If Trump wins in November, "he will make this nightmare a reality nationwide," says Lauren Miller https://www.salon.com/2024/06/03/i-wasnt-enough-for-an-abortion-texas-mom-for-almost-losing-her-life/ There are posters here, like the one above, who clearly have a head filled with fluid where a brain ought to reside.
June 6, 20241 yr You guys remember that old chestnut about restricting access to abortion having nothing to do with restricting access to contraception? What a yarn!
June 6, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: You guys remember that old chestnut about restricting access to abortion having nothing to do with restricting access to contraception? What a yarn! But, but, but they said this was never their goal, and that the left was just making this all up to be dewshes?
June 9, 20241 yr If only there was some way the US had a mechanism to allow for legal abortions on a federal level.........🤔
June 10, 20241 yr Author Remember when we were told in this very thread that we were being alarmists and that they wouldn't try to ban abortion nationally? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Quote Trump to make taped remarks to a Christian group that calls for abortion to be ‘eradicated entirely’ INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Donald Trump on Monday will make a virtual appearance before a Christian group that calls for abortion to be "eradicated entirely,” as the presumptive Republican nominee again takes on an issue that Democrats want to make a focus of this year’s presidential election. The former president pre-recorded a video that will be shown at an event hosted by The Danbury Institute, which is meeting in Indianapolis in conjunction with the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention. The Danbury Institute, an association of churches, Christians and organizations, says on its website that it believes "that the greatest atrocity facing our generation today is the practice of abortion” and it "must be ended.” "We will not rest until it is eradicated entirely,” the group said. Trump has repeatedly taken credit for the overturning of a federally guaranteed right to abortion — having nominated three of the justices who overturned Roe v. Wade — but has resisted supporting a national abortion ban and says he wants to leave the issue to the states. Though the Danbury Institute advertised Trump as a virtual speaker at the event, his campaign clarified Monday that Trump had pre-taped a brief video. In a transcript of his remarks provided by the campaign, Trump thanks the audience for their "tremendous devotion to God and Country.” "These are difficult times for our nation, and your work is so important. We can’t afford to have anyone sit on the sidelines—now is the time for us all to pull together and stand up for our values and our freedoms,” Trump said, according to the transcript. "We have to defend religious liberty, free speech, innocent life, and the heritage and traditions that built America into the greatest nation in the history of the world. I know that each of you is protecting those values every day—and I hope we’ll be defending them side by side for the next four years.” Both the Southern Baptists who will hear Trump on Monday and Republicans at large are split on abortion politics, with some calling for immediate, complete abortion bans and others more open to incremental tactics. Polls over the last several years have found a majority of Americans support some access to abortion, and abortion-rights groups have won several statewide votes since Roe was overturned, including in conservative-led states like Kansas and Ohio. Like the GOP, the Southern Baptist Convention has moved steadily to the right since the 1980s, and its members were in the vanguard of the wider religious movement that strongly supported Republican presidents from Ronald Reagan to Trump. The Conservative Baptist Network, one of the event’s sponsors, wants to move the conservative denomination even further to the right. Although they criticized President Bill Clinton’s sexual behavior in the 1990s, Southern Baptists and other evangelicals have supported Trump. That has continued despite allegations of sexual misconduct, multiple divorces and now his conviction on 34 charges in a scheme to illegally influence the 2016 election through a hush money payment to a porn actor who said the two had sex. Trump will give his address on the same day he appears virtually for a required pre-sentencing interview with New York probation officers. Many Southern Baptists say they see him as the only alternative to a Democratic agenda they abhor. H. Sharayah Colter, spokesperson for The Danbury Institute, said in a statement that the presidential race was a "binary choice” and said Trump has "demonstrated a willingness to protect the value of life even when politically unpopular.” And Albert Mohler, longtime president of the denomination’s flagship seminary and once an outspoken Clinton critic, wrote a column after Trump’s conviction attacking Democrats for supporting transgender rights. "Say what you will about Donald Trump and his sex scandals, he doesn’t confuse male and female,” wrote Mohler, who is a listed speaker for Monday’s event, along with others from the denomination’s right flank. Trump has said he would not sign a national abortion ban and in an interview on the Fox News Channel last week, when commenting on the way some states are enshrining abortion rights and others are restricting them, said that "the people are deciding and in many ways, it’s a beautiful thing to watch.” For over a year until he announced his position this spring, Trump had backed away from endorsing any specific national limit on abortion, unlike many other Republicans who eventually ended their presidential campaigns. Trump has repeatedly said the issue can be politically tricky and suggested he would "negotiate” a policy that would include exceptions for rape, incest and to protect the life of the mother. Democrats and President Joe Biden’s campaign have tried to tie Trump to the most conservative state-level bans on abortion as well as a recent Alabama Supreme Court ruling that would have restricted access to in vitro fertilization and other fertility procedures that are broadly popular. "Four more years of Donald Trump means empowering organizations like the Danbury Institute who want to ban abortion nationally and punish women who have abortions,” said Sarafina Chitika, a spokesperson for Biden’s campaign. "Trump brags that he is responsible for overturning Roe, he thinks the extreme state bans happening now because of him are ‘working very brilliantly,’ and if he’s given the chance, he will sign a national abortion ban. These are the stakes this November.” When asked about his appearance before the Danbury Institute, Trump campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said Trump "has been very clear: he supports the rights of states to determine the laws on this issue and supports the three exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother.” Leavitt also said, "President Trump is committed to addressing groups with diverse opinions on all of the issues, as evidenced by his recent speech at the Libertarian Convention, his meetings with the unions, and his efforts to campaign in diverse neighborhoods across the country.” https://apnews.com/article/trump-2024-election-abortion-christians-13318983232798e44e9638a33811f844 Christofascists gonna Christofascist...
June 10, 20241 yr On 6/6/2024 at 8:45 AM, we_gotta_believe said: You guys remember that old chestnut about restricting access to abortion having nothing to do with restricting access to contraception? What a yarn! Federal legislation isnt about entitlement is it? Its about restricting the govt
June 10, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Federal legislation isnt about entitlement is it? Its about restricting the govt Restriction against restrictions, kinda like those amendment things.
June 10, 20241 yr Is there an adult undergarment that a perfectly continent person can buy, not because they need one but because they want to drink a whole bunch of water just to see how much they can fill up a diaper?
June 17, 20241 yr Well, you see it's OK when I do it. They're all hypocrites Colorado Republican Brutally Grilled By Local News Anchor: ‘Why Is Abortion Good For Your Girlfriend? Bad For Other Women?’ From article: Colorado congressional candidate and sitting State Rep. Richard Holtorf (R) received a tough grilling this week at the hands of local 9News anchor Kyle Clark over his apparent hypocrisy when it comes to abortion rights. Holtorf made headlines back in January when he defended paying for his girlfriend’s abortion, despite being an adamant pro-life lawmaker and abortion critic. "Anti-abortion GOP lawmaker praises the impact of the abortion he paid for,” read the headline of a local report by Clark from the beginning of the year. To his credit, Holtorf sat down with Clark to discuss the issue. "If abortion was the best choice for your girlfriend, why try to deny that choice to other women?” Clark asked the lawmaker running in the crowded GOP primary for Colorado’s 4th congressional district. "So let me give you some context about that situation. Because I’m a pro-life Catholic and I believe everyone should choose life. Now, if you listen to my presentation on the House floor, did you listen to it?” Holtorf shot back. "I did, in fact, I just quoted from it,” replied Clark as the two then spoke over each other. Clark then clarified, "In fairness, your logic was a bit scattered in that speech. What I’m asking you about is the fact that you said that you respected your girlfriend’s right to an abortion, and then gave her money to help her through an important time ‘to live her best life.’” As Holtorf protested Clark asked again, "But yet you’ve tried to deny that to other women. And I’m asking, why is abortion good for your girlfriend? Bad for other women? That’s my question. Simple, simple question.” "She had an abortion. Was that her choice? Yes. Did she have that right? Yes. Was it my choice, Kyle? No,” replied Holtorf. Clark pushed back, "Why do you seem deny the choice that you said was best for your girlfriend’s life?” "Let me finish. Let me finish to explain,” Holtorf insisted. "Why do you seek to deny it to other women?” Clark pressed. "Let me, let me — I don’t, I don’t,” Holtorf replied. "You have voted to restrict abortion access,” Clark shot back. "And I have. And I’m a pro-life person. I think you should try to choose life every time. But there are exceptions. And there are times when you need abortion. Abortion is a medical procedure,” declared Holtorf. "Is one of the exceptions when Richard Holtorf is the father?” Clark demanded. "No, it isn’t that. It’s not about me. Don’t personalize it, make it about me,” Holtorf replied. Clark hit back, "You told the story on the house floor, sir.” "Okay? That doesn’t matter. That’s a story. Okay? That’s not that important. What’s more important is the policy,” Holtorf replied.
June 17, 20241 yr Author 33 minutes ago, Tweek said: I hate these guys: unmitigated, seething hatred.
June 18, 20241 yr So "pro-life" that were gonna kill ya! And screw you for trying to actually you know, give birth and have kids (criminalized IVF) Texas GOP Appears To Put Death Penalty For Abortion Patients On 2024 Wish List The Republican Party of Texas is considering a platform this week that would define abortion as homicide. Texas delegates voted on a 2024 platform at the state’s GOP Convention on Saturday and aim to tally the votes by Wednesday to finalize their platform for the coming year. The proposal called for new legislation to solidify fetal personhood ideology into law, define abortion care as homicide and criminalize in vitro fertilization, first reported by feminist writer Jessica Valenti.
June 18, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Tweek said: So "pro-life" that were gonna kill ya! And screw you for trying to actually you know, give birth and have kids (criminalized IVF) Texas GOP Appears To Put Death Penalty For Abortion Patients On 2024 Wish List The Republican Party of Texas is considering a platform this week that would define abortion as homicide. Texas delegates voted on a 2024 platform at the state’s GOP Convention on Saturday and aim to tally the votes by Wednesday to finalize their platform for the coming year. The proposal called for new legislation to solidify fetal personhood ideology into law, define abortion care as homicide and criminalize in vitro fertilization, first reported by feminist writer Jessica Valenti. We do a little Sharia Law...
June 19, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, Tweek said: So "pro-life" that were gonna kill ya! And screw you for trying to actually you know, give birth and have kids (criminalized IVF) Texas GOP Appears To Put Death Penalty For Abortion Patients On 2024 Wish List The Republican Party of Texas is considering a platform this week that would define abortion as homicide. Texas delegates voted on a 2024 platform at the state’s GOP Convention on Saturday and aim to tally the votes by Wednesday to finalize their platform for the coming year. The proposal called for new legislation to solidify fetal personhood ideology into law, define abortion care as homicide and criminalize in vitro fertilization, first reported by feminist writer Jessica Valenti. "Abortion care” Next they’ll be saying Murder Medicine.
June 19, 20241 yr On 6/13/2024 at 3:16 PM, Toastrel said: Seems equitable. Nah. She had a choice to have sex. Sex has potential consequences. We already have laws for child support.
June 19, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, TEW said: Nah. She had a choice to have sex. Sex has potential consequences. We already have laws for child support. Yes, no reason not to have consequence for one half of the parents. We have laws for immigration too, smart guy.
June 19, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, TEW said: Nah. She had a choice to have sex. Sex has potential consequences. We already have laws for child support. And this right here ladies is why you need to continue to fight for your rights.
June 19, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, TEW said: "Abortion care” Next they’ll be saying Murder Medicine. So you don't think the mother whose in danger of losing her life wouldn't be medical care? But executing them would be pro-life? Got that right?
June 19, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, TEW said: Nah. She had a choice to have sex. Sex has potential consequences. We already have laws for child support. Found the incel
June 19, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, TEW said: Nah. She had a choice to have sex. Sex has potential consequences. We already have laws for child support.
June 19, 20241 yr When the Trumptards rheeee about how the election had to be rigged, that there's no way that many people could have voted to reelect Joe Biden, I suggest they read back through this thread.
June 19, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: And this right here ladies is why you need to continue to fight for your rights. Muh rights to murder children!
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