12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I thought it was the finger wag swag that did it.

Agree 100% with the bold, but still stand by my earlier assertion.  Smith was a beast... very briefly.

Mills sealed the win against Atlanta with that wag.  Him being one on one with Julio shocked Matt Ryan into throwing it way over his head.  

Just now, downundermike said:

Meanwhile, JJ goes 8 for 170 and a couple TD's

jJ arcega Whiteside???😳

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

jJ arcega Whiteside???😳

Josh Jobe

44 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

And put 505 yards next to their names.   

I think you're not properly remembering the greatness of Jalen Mills. 

20 hours ago, NCiggles said:

It was terrible his career was cut short.  I just think Allen was a HOF caliber player.  

Allen should be in the HOF, all these old guys saying Ben Smith was better are sniffing glue.

Ben Smith had a lot of promise, he hadn't put it all together yet but showed a lot of promise, sad he got hurt but it's revisionist history to say Ben Smith was better than a multiple pro bowl all pro player who was a finalist for dpoy in 93 and should be in the HOF.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You know they are going to force the ball to him that game. He'll pickup a first down after a gain of 3 while down two scores in the fourth and do the griddy. 

Fixed for accuracy.

7 minutes ago, Utebird said:

If my grandma had a wheel she'd be a bicycle.

Grandma already has one wheel, eh?  

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It was terrible his career was cut short.  I just think Allen was a HOF caliber player.  

both can be true...

9 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Allen should be in the HOF, all these old guys saying Ben Smith was better are sniffing glue.

Ben Smith had a lot of promise, he hadn't put it all together yet but showed a lot of promise, sad he got hurt but it's revisionist history to say Ben Smith was better than a multiple pro bowl all pro player who was a finalist for dpoy in 94 and should be in the HOF.

I think you meant 1993

14 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think you're not properly remembering the greatness of Jalen Mills. 

I would have to agree, no one was better at biting of the fake and getting burned deep then Mills. He was just a master at it. 

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

If my grandma had a wheel she'd be a bicycle.

Sure Ben Smith was on upward trajectory but ultimately didnt because of the injury.

Taylor and Vincent both made pro bowls as eagles Smith never did.

Also ronyell young and herm Edwards were a pretty good pair as well.

Darby and Mills shouldnt even be in the top 10, Darby barely even played as an eagle as he was always hurt  Mills was trash out side of the red zone for one season.

I'd go 

1 Taylor ,Vincent.

2. Allen ,Smith

3 .Asante, Brown

4. Lito, Brown.

5 Young, Edwards.

.

 

I don't see any reasonable ranking where you're putting any tandem ahead of Allen/Smith.  

3 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I would have to agree, no one was better at biting of the fake and getting burned deep then Mills. He was just a master at it. 

Why did Mills autograph a picture of Izell Jenkins? 

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Why did Mills autograph a picture of Izell Jenkins? 

The original.   Only one "l" though.   

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

both can be true...

I mean it's one thing if Ben Smith didn't have a career after the injury but he did.  Certainly he could have been great but for the injury.  I just think it's speculative given how well Allen's career went. 

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean it's one thing if Ben Smith didn't have a career after the injury but he did.  Certainly he could have been great but for the injury.  I just think it's speculative given how well Allen's career went. 

I'll have to defer to the guys that are local to the Philly market, because in those days I only ever saw what was on TV -- but to my eyes Ben Smith was never as good as Eric Allen.  Tons of potential, but Eric Allen is the best DB the Eagles have ever had -- IMO 

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean it's one thing if Ben Smith didn't have a career after the injury but he did.  Certainly he could have been great but for the injury.  I just think it's speculative given how well Allen's career went. 

Of course, it's speculative.  That's kind of the point.   I agree with you that Smith did have a career after the injury, but he was never the same.  

Just now, Alphagrand said:

I'll have to defer to the guys that are local to the Philly market, because in those days I only ever saw what was on TV -- but to my eyes Ben Smith was never as good as Eric Allen.  Tons of potential, but Eric Allen is the best DB the Eagles have ever had -- IMO 

Dawkins.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I'll have to defer to the guys that are local to the Philly market, because in those days I only ever saw what was on TV -- but to my eyes Ben Smith was never as good as Eric Allen.  Tons of potential, but Eric Allen is the best DB the Eagles have ever had -- IMO 

Sacrilege. 2nd place to Dawk. 

Was having a discussion with a colleague...

Excluding QB, the Eagles have a top-ten roster.  Yes or no?

 

Stipulation....of course the QB matters most.

6 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Was having a discussion with a colleague...

Excluding QB, the Eagles have a top-ten roster.  Yes or no?

 

Stipulation....of course the QB matters most.

No. Top 15.

Skill players and o-line only put them 7/8ish. Defense and depth push then outside top 10.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Was having a discussion with a colleague...

Excluding QB, the Eagles have a top-ten roster.  Yes or no?

 

Stipulation....of course the QB matters most.

are we excluding the defense too?

If the Eagles are able to add Bradberry, excluding the QB I don't think their roster is that far off from the SB year roster. OL is about the same. RBs have higher upside. WRs have higher upside. Front 7 has just as much upside if not more with Davis, Reddick, Dean, and White. CBs would certainly be better. TEs probably worse. Safeties certainly worse.

The difference is Wentz was MVP caliber in 2017 and Hurts has been nowhere close to that level.

The Eagles roster right now is better than Denver's IMO(sans QB) and people gushed about Denver just needing a QB to be elite.

Does Tarron Jackson have a spot on the roster?  I think he'd be a productive role player and pass rusher.  

Anyone see Reub's latest article, top 10 players under 25.   Jack Stoll made the list.  Not so sure about that one.  My guess is he isn't even on the roster.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If the Eagles are able to add Bradberry, excluding the QB I don't think their roster is that far off from the SB year roster. OL is about the same. RBs have higher upside. WRs have higher upside. Front 7 has just as much upside if not more with Davis, Reddick, Dean, and White. CBs would certainly be better. TEs probably worse. Safeties certainly worse.

The difference is Wentz was MVP caliber in 2017 and Hurts has been nowhere close to that level.

The Eagles roster right now is better than Denver's IMO(sans QB) and people gushed about Denver just needing a QB to be elite.

They haven’t played a game yet.

I don’t think we should crown them just yet.

12 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If the Eagles are able to add Bradberry, excluding the QB I don't think their roster is that far off from the SB year roster. OL is about the same. RBs have higher upside. WRs have higher upside. Front 7 has just as much upside if not more with Davis, Reddick, Dean, and White. CBs would certainly be better. TEs probably worse. Safeties certainly worse.

The difference is Wentz was MVP caliber in 2017 and Hurts has been nowhere close to that level.

The Eagles roster right now is better than Denver's IMO(sans QB) and people gushed about Denver just needing a QB to be elite.

 

Not seeing that at all.  Also can't overlook how important LeGarrette Blount was to that team on and off the field.  

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Allen should be in the HOF, all these old guys saying Ben Smith was better are sniffing glue.

Ben Smith had a lot of promise, he hadn't put it all together yet but showed a lot of promise, sad he got hurt but it's revisionist history to say Ben Smith was better than a multiple pro bowl all pro player who was a finalist for dpoy in 94 and should be in the HOF.

You know how I know it wasn’t revisionist history to say that Smith was better than Allen? Because I was saying it at the time! That was the year that one of my older sisters decided she wanted to learn more about football because her oldest son was starting to show an interest in the Eagles, and she wanted to be conversant with the sport. And I remember very specifically discussing with her how good Ben Smith was at that very moment and compared him to Eric Allen in a superior manner. 

No revisionist history with me on this one.