EMB Blog: 2022 OTAs thru Pre-Season

[RLC]

Projected 2022 Depth Chart – After Game 1

Offense (24)
QB(3): Hurts, Minshew, Strong
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Brooks
TE(3): Goedert, Stoll, Calcaterra
WR(5): Brown, Smith, Watkins, Pascal, Reagor
OL(9) Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Seumalo, Johnson
Jurgens, Opeta, Dillard, Driscoll

Defense (26)
DE(4): Sweat, Barnett, Graham, Reddick
DT(5): Cox, Hargrave, Davis, Williams, Tuipulotu
ILB(3): White, Dean, Edwards
OLB(4): P. Johnson, Taylor, K. Johnson, Bradley
S(4): Harris, Epps, Chachere, Tartt
CB(6): Slay, Maddox, Bradberry, McPhearson, Scott, Jobe

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

[315Eagles]

12 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Looked like he called him out by name.  

 

 

Kinda weird on Sirianni's part.  Not really Saleh's fault that the player committed a dumb penalty like that.  

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Swoop said:

Note to Howie: 

Continue to draft good players from the best college teams.

Amazing how that works

[DEagle7]

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Projected 2022 Depth Chart – After Game 1

 

Offense (24)
QB(3): Hurts, Minshew, Strong
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Brooks
TE(3): Goedert, Stoll, Calcaterra
WR(5): Brown, Smith, Watkins, Pascal, Reagor
OL(9) Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Seumalo, Johnson
Jurgens, Opeta, Dillard, Driscoll

Defense (26)
DE(4): Sweat, Barnett, Graham, Reddick
DT(5): Cox, Hargrave, Davis, Williams, Tuipulotu
ILB(3): White, Dean, Edwards
OLB(4): P. Johnson, Taylor, K. Johnson, Bradley
S(4): Harris, Epps, Chachere, Tartt
CB(6): Slay, Maddox, Bradberry, McPhearson, Scott, Jobe

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

I feel as if you to keep one of Huntley or Covey for returns at this point. 

[Saltpeter]

I wouldn't be scared at all of Marlon T getting poached off waivers.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, jsb235 said:

2. Minshew looked fine. Doubt they trade him. Arm strength is an issue as was evident on the throw to Pascal in the end zone, but he is a plus backup

Minshew has a stronger arm than Hurts.

[austinfan]

Or Jobe. Neither is likely to make the roster right now.

But there's a month left before the first game, 2 plus weeks before the second cutdown day.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Projected 2022 Depth Chart – After Game 1

 

Offense (24)
QB(3): Hurts, Minshew, Strong
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Brooks
TE(3): Goedert, Stoll, Calcaterra
WR(5): Brown, Smith, Watkins, Pascal, Reagor
OL(9) Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Seumalo, Johnson
Jurgens, Opeta, Dillard, Driscoll

Defense (26)
DE(4): Sweat, Barnett, Graham, Reddick
DT(5): Cox, Hargrave, Davis, Williams, Tuipulotu
ILB(3): White, Dean, Edwards
OLB(4): P. Johnson, Taylor, K. Johnson, Bradley
S(4): Harris, Epps, Chachere, Tartt
CB(6): Slay, Maddox, Bradberry, McPhearson, Scott, Jobe

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

 

 

There is no reason to believe at this point that Strong will be on the 53 man roster.  

[Connecticut Eagle]

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Projected 2022 Depth Chart – After Game 1

 

Offense (24)
QB(3): Hurts, Minshew, Strong
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Brooks
TE(3): Goedert, Stoll, Calcaterra
WR(5): Brown, Smith, Watkins, Pascal, Reagor
OL(9) Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Seumalo, Johnson
Jurgens, Opeta, Dillard, Driscoll

Defense (26)
DE(4): Sweat, Barnett, Graham, Reddick
DT(5): Cox, Hargrave, Davis, Williams, Tuipulotu
ILB(3): White, Dean, Edwards
OLB(4): P. Johnson, Taylor, K. Johnson, Bradley
S(4): Harris, Epps, Chachere, Tartt
CB(6): Slay, Maddox, Bradberry, McPhearson, Scott, Jobe

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

Thinking maybe 10 OL and 5 CB.  Jobe may be easier to stash on the PS than Awosika.

[RLC]

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

There is no reason to believe at this point that Strong will be on the 53 man roster.  

I don't think he deserves it, but The Eagles always carry 3 QBs, Strong got a big guarantee and Sinnett is bad.

Most likely scenario is that they IR Strong IMO. 

[Connecticut Eagle]

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Minshew has a stronger arm than Hurts.

But I saw Hurts throw the ball down field.  Doesn't that mean he has arm strength?

[bpac55]

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

So it's the day after and I see the blog is trying to nitpick and criticize Hurts for his performance last night.  Yep, everything is going as usual here.  

Hurts is under the microscope and for good reason.  We want and need him to improve from last year.  From a statistical standpoint, he had a great game.  He showed some positive things last night.

The 3rd down run, while it ended up gaining a 1st down via penalty was a result of Hurts doing what Hurts does.  Bail out of a clean pocket.  That is one of the biggest issues a lot of us have with him and why we think he will never take that next step.  It's the same thing he's doing in practice.  You want to see him climb the pocket and then if there is a running lane or no one is open use his legs as a weapon, not drop back and immediately dash out of the pocket to the right.  

Opeta got blown up on the 1st play and Hurts had no choice but to roll right.  He kept eyes downfield and hit Watkins.  Great.

Play 2, designed drop off to Sanders?  He didn't look downfield once so I'm assuming so.  Stood strong in pocket.  Good.

Play 3, drop back, bang, hit Stoll right away.  Best play IMO.  Decisive, over the middle.  Encouraging.

Play 4,  drop back, clean pocket, Watkins wide open on a crosser.  Good play.  Better if Watkins runs up field. 

Play 5,  3rd down scramble as noted before.  Resulted in a 1st down great but not what you want to see in terms of growth.

Play 6, screen to Sanders.  Hard to mess up.

Play 7, called back TD run by Hurts.  This is the kind of scrambling we want from Hurts.  Protection was a mess, lane opened up and he took it.

Play 8, TD pass to Goedert.  If we want to nitpick, his form throwing this ball was terrible. Clean pocket to step in to but he doesn't step in to it he throws off his back foot like he was trying to put too much touch on the pass.  If he steps and drives the ball he could have hit Goedert over the shoulder for an easy run in to the endzone. Instead, off balance pass made Goedert stop his route, come back and then heavy contact in for the TD.  Again, nitpicking but after working with a QB coach all summer, you'd like to see Hurts step in and drive a throw when he has a clean pocket rather than drifting off balance for no reason.

Overall it was a solid performance for Hurts.  However, the areas he was supposed to be working on to improve didn't show that he really has.  Still bailing from pocket when unneeded and off balance, drifting throw instead of stepping up.  Those were areas that you want to see him change and last night he didn't.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

I don't think he deserves it, but The Eagles always carry 3 QBs, Strong got a big guarantee and Sinnett is bad.

Most likely scenario is that they IR Strong IMO. 

 

His "big guarantee" is nothing in the grand scheme of the cap.  Hardly a blip on the radar. 

 

If Sinnett is bad then Strong has been far worse all summer. The onyl chance Strong has is the practice squad and that's only if the Eagles don't cut Sinnett and choose to go with him on the practice squad instead. 

[RememberTheKoy]

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Hurts is under the microscope and for good reason.  We want and need him to improve from last year.  From a statistical standpoint, he had a great game.  He showed some positive things last night.

The 3rd down run, while it ended up gaining a 1st down via penalty was a result of Hurts doing what Hurts does.  Bail out of a clean pocket.  That is one of the biggest issues a lot of us have with him and why we think he will never take that next step.  It's the same thing he's doing in practice.  You want to see him climb the pocket and then if there is a running lane or no one is open use his legs as a weapon, not drop back and immediately dash out of the pocket to the right.  

Opeta got blown up on the 1st play and Hurts had no choice but to roll right.  He kept eyes downfield and hit Watkins.  Great.

Play 2, designed drop off to Sanders?  He didn't look downfield once so I'm assuming so.  Stood strong in pocket.  Good.

Play 3, drop back, bang, hit Stoll right away.  Best play IMO.  Decisive, over the middle.  Encouraging.

Play 4,  drop back, clean pocket, Watkins wide open on a crosser.  Good play.  Better if Watkins runs up field. 

Play 5,  3rd down scramble as noted before.  Resulted in a 1st down great but not what you want to see in terms of growth.

Play 6, screen to Sanders.  Hard to mess up.

Play 7, called back TD run by Hurts.  This is the kind of scrambling we want from Hurts.  Protection was a mess, lane opened up and he took it.

Play 8, TD pass to Goedert.  If we want to nitpick, his form throwing this ball was terrible. Clean pocket to step in to but he doesn't step in to it he throws off his back foot like he was trying to put too much touch on the pass.  If he steps and drives the ball he could have hit Goedert over the shoulder for an easy run in to the endzone. Instead, off balance pass made Goedert stop his route, come back and then heavy contact in for the TD.  Again, nitpicking but after working with a QB coach all summer, you'd like to see Hurts step in and drive a throw when he has a clean pocket rather than drifting off balance for no reason.

Overall it was a solid performance for Hurts.  However, the areas he was supposed to be working on to improve didn't show that he really has.  Still bailing from pocket when unneeded and off balance, drifting throw instead of stepping up.  Those were areas that you want to see him change and last night he didn't.

 

 

 

 

Blog has unreasonable expectations of absolute perfection and even then you all will find something to try to complain about.  6/6 and perfect QB rating. Two touchdowns on one drive. 

[Ace Nova]

19 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Minshew has a stronger arm than Hurts.

They both threw at 54 mph @ the combine. 

[Connecticut Eagle]

Happy to see positive early returns on the draft picks.

Davis, Jurgens, and Dean all looked not only like they belong, but will be impact players sooner than later.

[Iggles_Phan]

28 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Kinda weird on Sirianni's part.  Not really Saleh's fault that the player committed a dumb penalty like that.  

Might be upset that Saleh didn't immediately pull him from the game for at least a snap or a talking to.  Just guessing.

[RLC]

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Hurts is under the microscope and for good reason.  We want and need him to improve from last year.  From a statistical standpoint, he had a great game.  He showed some positive things last night.

Play 8, TD pass to Goedert.  If we want to nitpick, his form throwing this ball was terrible. Clean pocket to step in to but he doesn't step in to it he throws off his back foot like he was trying to put too much touch on the pass.  If he steps and drives the ball he could have hit Goedert over the shoulder for an easy run in to the endzone. Instead, off balance pass made Goedert stop his route, come back and then heavy contact in for the TD.  Again, nitpicking but after working with a QB coach all summer, you'd like to see Hurts step in and drive a throw when he has a clean pocket rather than drifting off balance for no reason.

This is  nitpicking. His form was fine. He didn't want to lead the TE into zone coverage where he would have gotten blown up. He instead took a bit off and hit Goedert in the numbers.

He had 7 good snaps out of 8. Will take that all season-long.

[BigEFly]

26 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Projected 2022 Depth Chart – After Game 1

 

Offense (24)
QB(3): Hurts, Minshew, Strong
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Brooks
TE(3): Goedert, Stoll, Calcaterra
WR(5): Brown, Smith, Watkins, Pascal, Reagor
OL(9) Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Seumalo, Johnson
Jurgens, Opeta, Dillard, Driscoll

Defense (26)
DE(4): Sweat, Barnett, Graham, Reddick
DT(5): Cox, Hargrave, Davis, Williams, Tuipulotu
ILB(3): White, Dean, Edwards
OLB(4): P. Johnson, Taylor, K. Johnson, Bradley
S(4): Harris, Epps, Chachere, Tartt
CB(6): Slay, Maddox, Bradberry, McPhearson, Scott, Jobe

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

Reddick is a SAM.  Jackson sticks as a DE.  Actually looked good last night.  

Tartt seems unlikely to make the team.  I think it’s Epps, Harris, Wallace and Chachere at S with Blankenship on the PS.  I would replace Jobe with Gowan based on their play last night.  Hopefully Vincent plays next week as I am curious how he does. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

They both threw at 54 mph @ the combine. 

 

[Iggles_Phan]

27 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I feel as if you to keep one of Huntley or Covey for returns at this point. 

Covey has torn ligaments in his fingers.  So, that is likely not an option.  Huntley as a returner?  Nah.  Just throw Scott back there... again.  No need to waste a spot for Huntley.  He goes to the PS and we hope to never need him.

[Connecticut Eagle]

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Might be upset that Saleh didn't immediately pull him from the game for at least a snap or a talking to.  Just guessing.

Maybe.

More like when one parent gets into a fight with another in the stands at a little league game when his kid gets hit by a pitch. 

[bpac55]

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

 

Blog has unreasonable expectations of absolute perfection and even then you all will find something to try to complain about.  6/6 and perfect QB rating. Two touchdowns on one drive. 

Did you even read my post?  It's not about perfection, it's about growth and moving on from bad habits.  If Hurts is the same QB as he was last year in terms of habits then that's a bad thing.  I gave Hurts the credit where it's due.  I liked some things I saw but at the same time, even the results were good there were things I didn't like.  

Both of his "bad" plays resulted in serious contact for himself and Goedert.  Both could have been avoided if on one play he steps in to the pocket and makes a throw and on the TD, uses better form and gets Goedert a better ball.  Watch the Goedert TD again.  All he has to do is throw the ball to the pylon and Goedert walks in to the endzone untouched.  

Again, I think Hurts played well but he isn't immune from criticism. 

[Guest]

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Maybe.

More like when one parent gets into a fight with another in the stands at a little league game when his kid gets hit by a pitch. 

Speaking of,  no bacarty yet this morning.  Hopefully he didn’t go Randy Marsh in front of his kid at the game.

[jsb235]

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

 

Play 8, TD pass to Goedert.  If we want to nitpick, his form throwing this ball was terrible. Clean pocket to step in to but he doesn't step in to it he throws off his back foot like he was trying to put too much touch on the pass.  If he steps and drives the ball he could have hit Goedert over the shoulder for an easy run in to the endzone. Instead, off balance pass made Goedert stop his route, come back and then heavy contact in for the TD.  Again, nitpicking but after working with a QB coach all summer, you'd like to see Hurts step in and drive a throw when he has a clean pocket rather than drifting off balance for no reason.

 

This is a pretty good example of not understanding what you are looking at. 

It starts with the third down play. The Jets were in man, which Hurts diagnoses and immediately discards the Goedert/Brown pattern to focus on the man beater route, which is Reagor, who butchers it. So Hurts takes off. 

On this play, they are in zone, so Hurts knows either Goedert or Brown will have a favorable matchup. He sees it's Goedert, and throws with anticipation to a spot. Goedert knows where the ball will be, and makes an easy catch. 

If you lead him on the play, you lead him right into the coverage you avoided when the corner stayed with Brown. 

Pretty basic stuff.