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Pass on Kamara.

And keep Dillard unless they get a 2nd RD pick or higher.

Roll with Sanders/Gainwell/Scott/Sermon for the stretch run. Sermon needs more touches.

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59 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Who cares about salary? Cap space is all that matters. Pretty sure the Eagles have the cash

Cash for salary is a charge against the Cap.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Would rather draft Charbonnet 

Yes, please.

Giving up our backup LT in a year we're aiming to make a SB run seems silly unless we get a crazy return

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I guess I'm constantly looking down the road so the Eagles don't end up in a situation like the Saints or Rams.  

We have 2 firsts this year and 2 seconds next year. Howie’s got this.

29 minutes ago, mattwill said:

If the Saints lose to the Raiders this weekend and the Panthers beat the Falcons, and the Texans beat the Titans the Saints pick moves up to #1 … not just top 3.

I don’t think the Saints are a bottom 3 team. I’ll be happy if the pick is still top 10 by the end of the season. 

18 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Speaking of the Steelers...

The seats next to mine at the Eagles game belong to a ticket broker, so there are always different people every game. Usually Eagles fans but occasionally visiting fans. For example, there were Vikings fans next to us for the championship game five years ago. When the guy left late in the third quarter, he was literally crying as he walked past and wished us good luck in the Super Bowl. I enjoyed that. Him crying. 

For the Cowboys game last week, it was all Turds fans. Ugh. Fortunately they were decent dudes, especially the guy sitting next to me. They were actually from Dallas. High school football coaches who like to travel to a single away game every season. They knew football and weren't obnoxious. So it was okay. At one point the guy asked me about the Eagles-Steelers rivalry. How big of a rivalry is it?  I had to explain to the guy that since they're in the other conference, they're not a rival at all. We only play them every four years and they only come to the Linc every eight years. Sure we play them a lot in preseason but who really cares?

To me they're just another team. They're about five hours away, but to me that may as well be a million. They are not on my radar at all.

Do other people actually feel different? Maybe if you live in central-ish Pennsylvania and had to grow up with a ton of Steelers fans, I guess. I mean, yeah, sure, I don't like the Steelers and I generally root against them. But that's different than them being an actual rival of the Eagles.

I just don't consider them rivals.

Here in the center state, excluding all the Baltimorons who are Ravens fans, there is a decent split amongst the natives between Steeler and Eagles.  As a person that grew up an Oilers fan, I always found Steeler fans to be knowledgeable football fans.  More reason to have egos about rings than cow pad fans but much more civil about it.  

7 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

I don’t think the Saints are a bottom 3 team. I’ll be happy if the pick is still top 10 by the end of the season. 

The numbers don't lie if the scenario described happens the order is as follows.  With that said, I agree with you, on paper the Saints are not a bottom 3 team.

Team   Wins Losses Ties Pct SOS
             
Philadelphia Eagles (via NO) NFCS 2 6   0.250 0.500
Pittsburgh Steelers AFCN 2 6   0.250 0.542
Jacksonville Jaguars AFCS 2 6   0.250 0.585
Detroit Lions NFCN 2 5   0.286 0.650
Houston Texans AFCS 2 4 1 0.357 0.402
2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I guess I'm constantly looking down the road so the Eagles don't end up in a situation like the Saints or Rams.  

Thats kind of funny, because since Howie is our GM you never, ever have to worry about ending up in a situation like that.

Just saw that we traded for Quinn.  I said a few weeks ago that’s the most logical trade for us.  He offers very little down the road.  But right here, right now, he’s a really, really good pass rusher.  Adding that to our defense (and the insurance given our lack of depth there) is incredible.  Solid price too.

On 10/5/2022 at 10:18 AM, mattwill said:

That is possible, but I'd like to believe that Gannon is adjusting.  I'm very pleased with the rotation that Gannon is using

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• 39 snaps: Haason Reddick

• 35 snaps: Fletcher Cox

• 33 snaps: Javon Hargrave

• 31 snaps: Josh Sweat

• 20 snaps: Brandon Graham

• 17 snaps: Jordan Davis

• 13 snaps: Milton Williams

• 12 snaps: Marlon Tuipulotu

• 4 snaps: Patrick Johnson

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1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

At RB, Im looking at guys who will be free agents next year. Would be pretty cheap to begin with, and then cheaper yet as 1 year rentals.

Damien Harris

David Montgomery

Jamaal Williams

 

All would be great. Strong runners for short yardage, or mashing clock in the 2nd half of games where we lead. 

Dont care about a guy like Josh Jacobs who you are probably going to have to pay really well if you extend. Would rather draft Charbonnet 

It might be difficult to pull off deals for RBs like that unless teams are willing to wait until 2024 for compensation. We’re pretty much out of 2023 draft picks that would make sense to trade for those players. Two 7s won’t get it done. We shouldn’t trade a 3 for any of them either. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

It might be difficult to pull off deals for RBs like that u less teams are willing to wait until 2024 for compensation. We’re pretty much out of 2023 draft picks that would make sense to trade for those players. Two 7s won’t get it done. We shouldn’t trade a 3 for any of them either. 

I think they can take a 7th this year, and take another later pick from next year. Which would be the same or better than any comp pick theyd get from the small contracts those guys would get.

Say a 7th this year, and a conditional 5th next year based on something such as % of snaps or carries, or some other stat- yards, TDs, OR, team performance based like if he plays at all in the playoffs, or if we make it to the NFC Championship game, etc. So, the further he helps us go, the better their pick compensation can be. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It might be difficult to pull off deals for RBs like that u less teams are willing to wait until 2024 for compensation. We’re pretty much out of 2023 draft picks that would make sense to trade for those players. Two 7s won’t get it done. We shouldn’t trade a 3 for any of them either. 

Just hypothetically using the bears in this example. I could see a trade where it’s the eagles give a 3rd and get someone like Montgomery and a bears 4th.  the difference from our 3rd to their bears 4th might be 10-20 slots after comp picks. 

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Just saw that we traded for Quinn.  I said a few weeks ago that’s the most logical trade for us.  He offers very little down the road.  But right here, right now, he’s a really, really good pass rusher.  Adding that to our defense (and the insurance given our lack of depth there) is incredible.  Solid price too.

The price was perfect. Not sure if you saw this, but the Bears picked up basically his entire salary for this season and also eat his signing bonus… so we have basically no cap hit this year, can roll money into next year AND can cut bait with no cap hit next year or restructure if we want to keep him.

A+ trade IMO.

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

That would be insane. Source is unknown but this team loves to makes splashes and speedy pass catching backs, so I can't just dismiss it. Still think they would need a power back though. I don't understand having a RB room full of all light weight pass catching type backs. 

 

He's got way too big of a cap hit next year though.  He's 27 and I think he has already passed his peak as a player.  I'd rather they target someone like Kareem Hunt if they are going to pull the trigger on a trade for a RB.  

 

Wait a minute…

With all the Chubb/Chubb confusion of this past week in here, are we sure we didn’t just trade for Brady Quinn?

This is a big reason I'm excited:

Quinn is double teamed as much as anyone in the league. And still has an average win rate. 

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

This is a big reason I'm excited:

Quinn is double teamed as much as anyone in the league. And still has an average win rate. 

Doesnt really even have to be his 18 sack self. We would be so tough if we can just get Michael Bennett type of stuff from him. I mean, hes 32 so trying to be a little realistic. If he cut his sack total in half, and just got us 8 the rest of the way, and plays really solid in other aspects its still a great get.

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Did you just say Brady?

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Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Doesnt really even have to be his 18 sack self. We would be so tough if we can just get Michael Bennett type of stuff from him. I mean, hes 32 so trying to be a little realistic. If he cut his sack total in half, and just got us 8 the rest of the way, and plays really solid in other aspects its still a great get.

My understanding is that he's fantastic, but he's  also a bit of a streaky player. So I get that the bust potential is there I guess.  But considering his "boom" potential,  the fact that's he's going from constant double teams to virtual no double teams, and pretty much zero financial cost this year, a 4th is well worth it. 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

My understanding is that he's fantastic, but he's  also a bit of a streaky player. So I get that the bust potential is there I guess.  But considering his "boom" potential,  the fact that's he's going from constant double teams to virtual no double teams, and pretty much zero financial cost this year, a 4th is well worth it. 

He’s easily an upgrade over Barnett. And way more of an upgrade than Jackson. Plus they can give Sweat/Graham some more rest now. He’d have to be Ryan Kerrigan bad for this to not work out, and even then I think you still have to give the process a favorable grade. 

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He’s easily an upgrade over Barnett. And way more of an upgrade than Jackson. Plus they can give Sweat/Graham some more rest now. He’d have to be Ryan Kerrigan bad for this to not work out, and even then I think you still have to give the process a favorable grade. 

You just had to say his name didn't you? :nonono:

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He’s easily an upgrade over Barnett. And way more of an upgrade than Jackson. Plus they can give Sweat/Graham some more rest now. He’d have to be Ryan Kerrigan bad for this to not work out, and even then I think you still have to give the process a favorable grade. 

Not to be understated after all the handwringing that goes on around here and in @paco's stupid thread about cap space- Howie not only got the performance aspect of the deal. He not only got the Bears to pick up the tab on his salary this year. He is also likely to clear close to10M in cap space each year for the next 2 years for this 4th round pick.

In the NBA when you trade a pick for cap reasons, you arent usually the one getting an all star caliber player in return. Howie got the talent, AND the space. Its an absolute thievery. 

People will complain that itll create dead cap, but we already know thats not really a concern.

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