6 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

When will the Buccs liquidate assets?

Brady may keep playing longer now. Who knows. 

Interested to see if the Eagles just let him walk if he reverts to 2021 form and dominates the rest of the season for the Eagles.

11 hours ago, ManuManu said:

I can’t imagine the Bucs or Saints can be too happy with how their DC to HC promotions are working out. It made both teams worse across the board. 

I think it's really just that the rosters aren't as talented.  The Bucs have had significant o-line injuries.  Brady is missing throws that he used to make.  He can't throw on the run.  He looks more like Joe Flacco of the last few seasons than Brady.  The Saints have a decent defense but Winston was never going to be the answer at QB.  They over estimated the talent at WR and O-line.  

4 minutes ago, paco said:

Interesting.  So

1) They did restructure and add void years

2) Voided years don't count in the comp pick calculation apparently.

 

Thanks to #2, I learned something today.  Time to quit TATE while I'm ahead  

I think you are miss-interpreting his wording with #2. Deals with automatically voided dummy years absolutely do count towards comp picks.  

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

That's pretty cool he had an AJ Brown jersey that many years ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

duh...that's a Jeremy Bloom jersey.  

11 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

When will the Buccs liquidate assets?

Why would they do that ??  Panthers beat the Falcons this weekend, they are tied for 1st place.

It is actually concerning this happening to them, with Brady at QB, and a good defense, if Brady gets hot down the stretch, that could be bad for the NFC playoffs.

11 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

When will the Buccs liquidate assets?

Fournette has a very reasonable contract in 2022 - but given that nobody wants to win that division, it would take Tom ghosting the team like now for them to sell I’d figure.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think you are miss-interpreting his wording with #2. Deals with automatically voided dummy years absolutely do count towards comp picks.  

Just following up on this, I think I figured out what he meant.

If a player agrees to a contract that has voidable years at the end, they will count towards the comp pick formula. ie: literally every Eagles player currently signed. 

If a player has a contract in place and renegotiates to void the final years, they do not count towards the comp pick formula. ie. Robert Quinn

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Why would they do that ??  Panthers beat the Falcons this weekend, they are tied for 1st place.

It is actually concerning this happening to them, with Brady at QB, and a good defense, if Brady gets hot down the stretch, that could be bad for the NFC playoffs.

Brady isn't all of the problem. The o-line is the primary problem. Brady just can't function as well because he can't move and throw as well as he used to be able to do.  I think there's a general lack of focus and effort that's causing a problem too.  

 

I think this is a good article on their issues: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2022/key-tampa-bays-struggles 

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

welp - that’s that.

 

Bucs found a way to skirt the salary cap and pay Tom more money!

39 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

The max they can convert from a salary to a signing bonus is the entire bonus minus the vet minimum, which is a little over $1 million. 

They can spread the signing bonus over four or five years.

Not sure this even needs much discussion.

So here is the math.

If you convert the full amount minus vet minimum, the Eagles can get to 47.685 million in cap room for 2023.

Here are the negative impacts.

Eagles currently have 40.1 million in dead cap for 2024, changes that to 51.9 million in dead cap.

Adds 4 million in cap hits to Lane's base salary in 2024 and 2025.  He will have cap hits of 25.2 million in 2024 ( age 34 season ) and 26.13 million in 2025 ( age 35 season )

That then leaves you with 39 million in 2024 cap room with only 26 players under contract.  Obviously that will change once rookies are drafted and signed, but that depth chart looks atrocious right now, and you are expecting rookies to fill some massive holes.

@paco I can move this to a google sheet if you want to see  all my mathzzzzz

11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Time to braise.  

dam, lookin good!

4 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Grugier-Hill was released by the Texans. 

He's been a productive starter. 

Exactly the mold of LB the landscape is changing to. 

Would be a great backup to have. 

Next year compete with Dean to start next to white. 

I wonder why.  I thought when he left Philly he was on his way to a decent payday and bright future.  

33 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think you are miss-interpreting his wording with #2. Deals with automatically voided dummy years absolutely do count towards comp picks.  

Correct.  But that's not the case with his contract.  These were not years with $0 base salary to spread out a pro-rated bonus.  They were legit years on his original contract and if I read that tweet right they added a void clause to assure him FA. 

 

I've been heads down so maybe I'll look deeper later but I did find this nugget in a Bronco's specific article.

Quote

Also, players who signed a contract, then renegotiated to void the final year, don't count toward the formula.

 

I feel like that fits this situation exactly

 

Edit:  He beat me to it:

  

26 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just following up on this, I think I figured out what he meant.

If a player agrees to a contract that has voidable years at the end, they will count towards the comp pick formula. ie: literally every Eagles player currently signed. 

If a player has a contract in place and renegotiates to void the final years, they do not count towards the comp pick formula. ie. Robert Quinn

Yeah, I responded too quickly again.  I'm too left brained and often I need to rewrite posts a few times to get all my thoughts down before I hit submit.  That didn't happen here  

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Robert Quinn seems like a dude you would strike up a conversation with at Lowe's, about the different kind of deick stains.  Pretty humble guy.  

Agreed!  

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Hey! Get in line!

 

 

 

(I wish )

If only @Bacarty2 wasn't also in this line, you'd have your chance, but he's a 1 percenter!  

23 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So here is the math.

If you convert the full amount minus vet minimum, the Eagles can get to 47.685 million in cap room for 2023.

Here are the negative impacts.

Eagles currently have 40.1 million in dead cap for 2024, changes that to 51.9 million in dead cap.

Adds 4 million in cap hits to Lane's base salary in 2024 and 2025.  He will have cap hits of 25.2 million in 2024 ( age 34 season ) and 26.13 million in 2025 ( age 35 season )

That then leaves you with 39 million in 2024 cap room with only 26 players under contract.  Obviously that will change once rookies are drafted and signed, but that depth chart looks atrocious right now, and you are expecting rookies to fill some massive holes.

@paco I can move this to a google sheet if you want to see  all my mathzzzzz

The only thing i would point out is that you are not accounting for the fact that the cap space we create adds players to the mix. So even though we only have 26 players under contract for 2024 right now, the cap space we create will add to that number. 

4 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

The only thing i would point out is that you are not accounting for the fact that the cap space we create adds players to the mix. So even though we only have 26 players under contract for 2024 right now, the cap space we create will add to that number. 

Wait..... so if we have more cap space we can sign more players?   

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

The only thing i would point out is that you are not accounting for the fact that the cap space we create adds players to the mix. So even though we only have 26 players under contract for 2024 right now, the cap space we create will add to that number. 

Obviously, but who are those players.  Are you counting on the rookie class coming in and filling major holes, are you paying market rate to re sign 2023 Eagles free agents, are you doing 1 year rentals again, are you getting into and losing a bidding war for free agents ( as the Eagles did for the safeties they targeted )

The current draft picks rookie pool will be somewhere in the 14 million range, so that leaves 33 million in space.

Looking at the Eagles depth chart, I show they have to replace 8 starters next year.

Just now, paco said:

Wait..... so if we have more cap space we can sign more players?   

Imagine who we could sign with that 51.9 million in dead money we have next year 

10 minutes ago, hputenis said:

If only @Bacarty2 wasn't also in this line, you'd have your chance, but he's a 1 percenter!  

Are we sure he's in line? Might think she's just a 4/10

36 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So here is the math.

 

Looks like economics, actually.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

There is no new contract, they have agreed to cut him loose at the end of the year.  Eagles will not get a comp pick.

Besides, do you think a 33 year old pass rusher is going to get one of the top 32 contracts next off season ??

He would have to be one of the top 32 contracts that aren’t canceled out by other FA signings. 

Look at the players who are projected to get 2023 comp picks. Keion Crossen projects to get a 7. 

https://overthecap.com/2023-compensatory-picks-update-5-24-2022/amp

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Good thing the Eagles aren’t as dumb as some posters in here.  
 

 

On to the next shiny bouncing ball. 

 

 

Eagles are trading for Antonio Gibson!!

 

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Imagine who we could sign with that 51.9 million in dead money we have next year 

But with Howie's approach you can do more, probably

 

That take will never get old