55 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Obviously it's still early but I'm calling USC-Georgia in the title game. 

Georgia looks dominant.  USC should have any easy road out west.  Bama, Clemson aren't as good or it seems that way.  Maybe Bama becomes themselves by late October.   Only other team that might emerge to challenge Georgia is Ohio St but I don't see that.

I agree GA/USC 

I think it’s great that USC is relevant again 

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They deserve more than 1 week to sort through their very unique defense (although that speaks to the utility of actually working these guys in camp and preseason).

But if the struggles continue, they’ll likely revert into a traditional 4-3.  If that happens, Reddick and Milton Williams will have their upside significantly limited.  Reddick is going to be a fish out of water as a 4-3 OLB who won’t be allowed to do what he does best, save for a few blitzes per game.  Williams will just be an undersized, underutilized backup DT.  And we’ll have essentially zero pass rushers worth mentioning.  The majority of the front 7 personnel, outside of those 2, fit a 4-3 but are also pretty unspectacular in it.

Our best front last week was 3-4/5-2, not 4-3.

Reddick-Williams-Davis-MarvinT-Sweat was the best unit.

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

This beat writer is an odd one, but maybe I’m just too old to be in his target demographic. 

He comes off as a younger, slightly smarter ESP

19 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

If we had Hurts instead of a lot of QBs in that specific game. We won because of Hurts not in spite of him. 

I mean, I think that’s obvious. He ran his butt off. Tim Tebow won a playoff game by making one throw. 
 

Trying to minimize this to just the Detroit game is just... unbelievable.. after what we’ve been discussing all offseason. To sit here and be like "we won, guys. Jalen did it!” after we’ve been told by his supporters in here, his teammates, his coaches.. all that were gonna see this new improved passer in Jalen. And it was the same thing. It worked against a bad team. 
 

Even Jalen’s biggest detractors all admit that he’s capable of beating bad teams. That got us in the playoffs last year "because of him, not in spite of him”. And it wasn’t good enough. In fact, that’s what everyone is afraid of. 
 

yeah, Jalen beat a bad team using his legs. Yup. Same Jalen we’ve always seen. The one we’ve been discussing since the playoff loss. The one they told us was to be much improved. Afan told us to wait til September to discuss the QB. Well, it’s September and he’s the same guy as last year. And some people seem to not only think that’s ok, but are genuinely happy about it. 
 

Hell, even his biggest supporter in RTK all offseason told us how much improvement we’d see, because even he admitted he needed to improve. But we beat the Lions and we’re all supposed to be climbing light poles on Broad St in South Philly? 

@LeanMeanGM

Eagles 30

Vikings 44

Bonus: Cousins throws for 400+

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He comes off as a younger, slightly smarter ESP

That’s exactly what I was thinking!

20 minutes ago, blindside said:

I mean, I think that’s obvious. He ran his butt off. Tim Tebow won a playoff game by making one throw. 
 

Trying to minimize this to just the Detroit game is just... unbelievable.. after what we’ve been discussing all offseason. To sit here and be like "we won, guys. Jalen did it!” after we’ve been told by his supporters in here, his teammates, his coaches.. all that were gonna see this new improved passer in Jalen. And it was the same thing. It worked against a bad team. 
 

Even Jalen’s biggest detractors all admit that he’s capable of beating bad teams. That got us in the playoffs last year "because of him, not in spite of him”. And it wasn’t good enough. In fact, that’s what everyone is afraid of. 
 

yeah, Jalen beat a bad team using his legs. Yup. Same Jalen we’ve always seen. The one we’ve been discussing since the playoff loss. The one they told us was to be much improved. Afan told us to wait til September to discuss the QB. Well, it’s September and he’s the same guy as last year. And some people seem to not only think that’s ok, but are genuinely happy about it. 
 

Hell, even his biggest supporter in RTK all offseason told us how much improvement we’d see, because even he admitted he needed to improve. But we beat the Lions and we’re all supposed to be climbing light poles on Broad St in South Philly? 

The only difference I see in hurts is who he is throwing to this year as opposed to last 

AJ Brown improves the receiving core, other than that it's all the same 

Not sure how long Smith and Watkins are going to be ok with 5 targets between the both of them.

Interested to see if teams try and take away Brown if hurts can actually get off his first read and make on time throws to his 2nd 3rd 4th read instead of just taking off running after his first read isn't there.

30 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

I agree GA/USC 

I think it’s great that USC is relevant again 

USC? With what defense. Stanford turned the ball over 4 times and believe once at the goalline and still scored 28.

They ain't winning crap 

I'm curious. If the Eagles get to the bye with a 6-0 record and are among the top five offenses in points scored and yards gained but Hurts only has about eight touchdown passes, are most Eagles fans still going to complain about the starting quarterback? "We'd be even MORE undefeated if we had someone other than Hurts!" Is that going to be the mantra?

For the comprehension impaired, I'm not suggesting that the Eagles will in fact win their next five games. I'm only offering a what-if.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

On rewatch, I thought Sweat had a much better game than when I watched live. He was easily our best pass rusher. Goff’s snap-to-throw time was too quick for it to make a lick of difference. I don’t agree with the Next Gen Stats PR win rate necessarily, but it wasn’t as far off as I would have thought. 

Why wasn't Reddick used as a pass rusher more?    That's what I can't figure out.   Why bring him in and ask him to do something that he's not great at?

50 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They deserve more than 1 week to sort through their very unique defense (although that speaks to the utility of actually working these guys in camp and preseason).

But if the struggles continue, they’ll likely revert into a traditional 4-3.  If that happens, Reddick and Milton Williams will have their upside significantly limited.  Reddick is going to be a fish out of water as a 4-3 OLB who won’t be allowed to do what he does best, save for a few blitzes per game.  Williams will just be an undersized, underutilized backup DT.  And we’ll have essentially zero pass rushers worth mentioning.  The majority of the front 7 personnel, outside of those 2, fit a 4-3 but are also pretty unspectacular in it.

Yes.  The bolded sort of means that they thought they had it all figured out, or at least that's the message it sends to me.  

Reddick's usage remains the biggest head scratcher defensively.   I get working in Davis a little slower.  He's a rookie.  But, Reddick was their 'big' FA signing.  They lack pass rush, he's a pass rusher.  But, they didn't unleash him very much.   He's got to be allowed to attack the LOS.  If he's back pedaling, then there's a mistake in system.  Do you drop Greg Lloyd in coverage?   Kevin Greene? 

"Rush the QB".  

And where's the old school coach with the simple mentality?  "If you are going to blitz our QB, we are going to blitz your QB".     RIP Jim Johnson, you are missed.

Brock Bowers might be the best overall college TE I've seen in a long time.

He's gonna score alot of TDs on Sundays.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes.  The bolded sort of means that they thought they had it all figured out, or at least that's the message it sends to me.  

Reddick's usage remains the biggest head scratcher defensively.   I get working in Davis a little slower.  He's a rookie.  But, Reddick was their 'big' FA signing.  They lack pass rush, he's a pass rusher.  But, they didn't unleash him very much.   He's got to be allowed to attack the LOS.  If he's back pedaling, then there's a mistake in system.  Do you drop Greg Lloyd in coverage?   Kevin Greene? 

"Rush the QB".  

And where's the old school coach with the simple mentality?  "If you are going to blitz our QB, we are going to blitz your QB".     RIP Jim Johnson, you are missed.

What was the breakdown of drops bs rushes for Reddick? 

7 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm curious. If the Eagles get to the bye with a 6-0 record and are among the top five offenses in points scored and yards gained but Hurts only has about eight touchdown passes, are most Eagles fans still going to complain about the starting quarterback? "We'd be even MORE undefeated if we had someone other than Hurts!" Is that going to be the mantra?

For the comprehension impaired, I'm not suggesting that the Eagles will in fact win their next five games. I'm only offering a what-if.

How do they win those games? Because it's going to be hard to win games against good teams when your QB accounts for 1 TD a game

Malaki Starks is the truth, the Brock Bowers of Corners 

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

Regarding Gannon's defense, I did see one silver lining: there was a Detroit possession, I believe in the third quarter, where they tried three straight passes and all three were broken up. Not missed by Goff or dropped by the receiver, but broken up. I don't ever recall seeing that from the Eagles, even in the days of Troy Vincent and company. There were also a couple of underneath throws tipped by LBs - one of them turning into the pick-6. 

I take this to mean that the gaping holes in our zones are shrinking with the addition of fast LBs. It seems to me in foggy recollection that most of the Lions' completions were outside the hashes. There was a stretch in that game where our pass defense was terrific. It all fell apart in the fourth quarter but there was a lot to like before that.

@schuy7 has commented a number of times about our soft front - the two DTs, two stand-up edge rushers, and two ILBs. I definitely agree with him about that being too soft. That 50+ yard run was against that front. Gannon adjusted that later with the edge guys being in three-point stances but it didn't help much. I much preferred the 4i front and thought it more effective. We ran it with only four down DL and I liked that too.

He has probably the best zone match CB in the NFL in Bradberry. Heads and tails better than Nelson. But the thing that gets me is the lack of disguises.  

33 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm curious. If the Eagles get to the bye with a 6-0 record and are among the top five offenses in points scored and yards gained but Hurts only has about eight touchdown passes, are most Eagles fans still going to complain about the starting quarterback? "We'd be even MORE undefeated if we had someone other than Hurts!" Is that going to be the mantra?

For the comprehension impaired, I'm not suggesting that the Eagles will in fact win their next five games. I'm only offering a what-if.

Yes. 

JJ McCarthy looks the part 

3rd and 6, 6 rushers, Levis scans and goes to his 4th read.  I thought you didn’t learn that stuff in college.

37 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The only difference I see in hurts is who he is throwing to this year as opposed to last 

AJ Brown improves the receiving core, other than that it's all the same 

Not sure how long Smith and Watkins are going to be ok with 5 targets between the both of them.

Interested to see if teams try and take away Brown if hurts can actually get off his first read and make on time throws to his 2nd 3rd 4th read instead of just taking off running after his first read isn't there.

He doesn’t have a 2nd, 3rd or 4th read. 
 

it’s first and run 

38 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm curious. If the Eagles get to the bye with a 6-0 record and are among the top five offenses in points scored and yards gained but Hurts only has about eight touchdown passes, are most Eagles fans still going to complain about the starting quarterback? "We'd be even MORE undefeated if we had someone other than Hurts!" Is that going to be the mantra?

For the comprehension impaired, I'm not suggesting that the Eagles will in fact win their next five games. I'm only offering a what-if.

Nice.

If the Eagles go 6-0, not sayin, just spitballin, it will be a team success. Defense will have stepped up, Offense will have figured some things out, Hurts will have become the guy we hoped he would, to a certain extent, and the Team will be executing on both sides of the ball.

What a great step forward if it comes to pass...

 

just realized....no pun intended....

24 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm curious. If the Eagles get to the bye with a 6-0 record and are among the top five offenses in points scored and yards gained but Hurts only has about eight touchdown passes, are most Eagles fans still going to complain about the starting quarterback? "We'd be even MORE undefeated if we had someone other than Hurts!" Is that going to be the mantra?

For the comprehension impaired, I'm not suggesting that the Eagles will in fact win their next five games. I'm only offering a what-if.

Easy. Not enough info. I honestly don’t care about stats or wins, to be honest, at least in terms of Hurts. The question is, do we have a QB that can run an offense that doesn’t have to be limited. If a QB can’t go through reads or read defenses or make all the throws, then the offense will be limited. So you’re hoping to make up the limitations with QB runs. That’s not the OFFENSE I want to run. 
 

I don’t care about stats. TDs,  comp %.. I don’t care. Is he progressing as a passer. If he’s going through reads and making throws he’s not made in the past, it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t matter about stats. That’s what I want to see. If we lose the next five games because of the defense but he’s doing the right things to open up the offense, then I’ll be ecstatic. 
 

If we win the next 5 games because we have a top 5 roster in the NFL with this limited, dumbed down, offense and Hurts shows no progress, then I won’t be as pleased. Because that means we have to watch a limited OFFENSE. 
 

I just don’t understand how this isn’t everyone’s position. If regular season wins vs bad or average teams were all that matters, then Peyton Manning would be the GOAT, not Tom Brady. 

26 minutes ago, devpool said:

How do they win those games? Because it's going to be hard to win games against good teams when your QB accounts for 1 TD a game

That was my thought process. 6 games and only account for 8tds.....but at 10tds, it be really close to his average TDS a game last year so...

19 hours ago, hputenis said:

@Arthur Jackson please draw me a bath.  

An odd request but to each their own.

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

3rd and 6, 6 rushers, Levis scans and goes to his 4th read.  I thought you didn’t learn that stuff in college.

Putting all QBs in the same category? Racist