EagleVA Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 19 hours ago, bigdog54 said: I’m watching these games and seeing all these other defenses getting pressure and sacks and I’m wondering what are these things? They seem like a rare disease for our eagles defense. The question you should be asking is what's good OL because that thing in Philadelphia surely isn't one, good OLs don't allow their QB to run for his life on every drop back. Speaking of the OL, Mailata is overrated, he's below average as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 When the Eagles won the Super Nowl they consistently got pressure with a base front four. Now they can’t seem to get that done even with blitzing. The corners now are better than the SB team. Arguably the linebackers are better too. The front four rush needs to play better. The runblocking as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: The question you should be asking is what's good OL because that thing in Philadelphia surely isn't one, good OLs don't allow their QB to run for his life on every drop back. Speaking of the OL, Mailata is overrated, he's below average as far as I'm concerned. I disagree with your assessment on Mialata. I don’t think he’s overrated, but he is overhyped by Philly. He’s a solid tackle, but he does at times get beat with the speed rush. I do think this was a bad game showing for the o-line on the pass blocking end, but how much of that was due to Kelce being rusty and returning from injury? How much of that was due to a lack of chemistry from a lack of playing together? Hopefully they figure it out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 7:40 PM, EazyEaglez said: I disagree with your assessment on Mialata. I don’t think he’s overrated, but he is overhyped by Philly. Well I'll be damned, Overrated vs Overhyped, it's the same damn thing as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line, Mailata gets beat often, all you need to do is focus on him, why do you think Hurts ran right so often, I'll tell you why, pressure was coming from the left, more specifically, Mailata's man beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uscg-green Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I think they got one? Think it was Cox in like the third quarter but I could be wrong. Yep. Cox got Goff when he fumbled the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Eagles Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 They were talking about this on nfl network I think it was. Not just Phillys O-line but many teams across the league struggled with protection yesterday. You can blame the lack of practice in TC and preseason. O-lines need work, chemistry, cohesion, etc. I think they will be fine after a few games. It's why you can't judge a team after the first week or 2. Defense on the other hand has me nervous. Not sure about this Gannon and the way he runs the defense. I thought the Lions came out with more energy. Remember last year game 1 SF was beating them pretty good and the Lions came back to make it close at the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 11 hours ago, 315Eagles said: Defense on the other hand has me nervous. Not sure about this Gannon and the way he runs the defense. I agree. Generally defenses are able to get up to speed quicker but our defense was a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxeaglesfanxx Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 15 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I think they got one? Think it was Cox in like the third quarter but I could be wrong. Maybe it was during a time when my stream was screaming up. I never saw it. I also only recall them hitting the qb maybe twice which is sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 22 hours ago, EagleVA said: Well I'll be damned, Overrated vs Overhyped, it's the same damn thing as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line, Mailata gets beat often, all you need to do is focus on him, why do you think Hurts ran right so often, I'll tell you why, pressure was coming from the left, more specifically, Mailata man beat him. Thinking a guy is overhyped is not the same as thinking he’s overrated. You think Mialata isn’t good. You’re wrong. He’s a good football player. People in Philly just act like he’s elite and he’s not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 23 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: When the Eagles won the Super Nowl they consistently got pressure with a base front four. Now they can’t seem to get that done even with blitzing. The corners now are better than the SB team. Arguably the linebackers are better too. The front four rush needs to play better. The runblocking as well. I think it's hilarious that when talking about Graham everyone was all about pressurrzzzz to justify his career and now all of a sudden we care about actually getting sacks ... I wonder why that is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I think it's hilarious that when talking about Graham everyone was all about pressurrzzzz to justify his career and now all of a sudden we care about actually getting sacks ... I wonder why that is? You know I’ve had issues with this pressures talk for years now. Perhaps people are starting to realize some of these analytics and PFF stats aren’t as important as they want you to believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Just now, EazyEaglez said: You know I’ve had issues with this pressures talk for years now. Perhaps people are starting to realize some of these analytics and PFF stats aren’t as important as they want you to believe. I've been there with you on this subject. It's good to get pressure but, doesn't mean much if you aren't getting home or at least knocking the QB on his ass a few times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I've been there with you on this subject. It's good to get pressure but, doesn't mean much if you aren't getting home or at least knocking the QB on his ass a few times. Brandon Graham is the PFF poster boy for pressures, but even Graham will tell you the greatest play in his career was off the result of him getting a sack fumble. I’ll take sacks and hits over pressures all day every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 13 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: You think Mialata isn’t good. You’re wrong. He’s a good football player. People in Philly just act like he’s elite and he’s not there yet. So would that make him overhyped or overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 hours ago, EagleVA said: So would that make him overhyped or overrated? Over hyped. He’s overrated if nationally they’re calling him the best. We tend to make our players out to be better or worse than they really are. I would call Fletcher Cox overrated now, because nationally people think he’s still the guy he used to be, but locally no one thinks that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 8:17 PM, EagleVA said: Well I'll be damned, Overrated vs Overhyped, it's the same damn thing as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line, Mailata gets beat often, all you need to do is focus on him, why do you think Hurts ran right so often, I'll tell you why, pressure was coming from the left, more specifically, Mailata man beat him. He runs right so much because he's not good at throwing while running to his left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, nipples said: He runs right so much because he's not good at throwing while running to his left. I thought I saw him running left and completing passes last week on numerous occasions?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, EagleVA said: I thought I saw him running left and completing passes last week on numerous occasions?? He did it a couple times in one game. That doesn’t offset his entire body of work of not doing it well. That’s like saying just because Boston Scott picks up a couple 3rd and 1s in a game that he’s good as a short yardage back. Sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, nipples said: He did it a couple times in one game. That doesn’t offset his entire body of work of not doing it well. That’s like saying just because Boston Scott picks up a couple 3rd and 1s in a game that he’s good as a short yardage back. Sample size. What it means is he worked on passing while running left, you gotta give him a bigtime thumbs up on that alone. Only time will tell if he can continue with that success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBhunter58 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Two things need to happen... 1: We need an high-level pass rusher, it elevates the entire D-line. We have a lot of solid pieces in our group, but last year was a sheer drop off in sacks from previous seasons. Elite guys like Garret, Bosa, Watt, Mack, and Donald are hard to obtain. But even those second level guys can pull double teams and open up lanes. Give me a Danielle Hunter, or a cam Jordan anyday. Reddick has the ability if he is schemed correctly, but I still see him as a tweener. 2. Gannon needs to figure his crap out. Our ability to generate pressure was an albatross last year. We can usually get by with average QBs, but anytime you give a good QB time to go through progressions, it becomes a game of catch up. All this talk about multiple D and different packages with the talent on our D-line this offseason... I did not see that on sunday. One gimme sack and not a lot of pressure otherwise aint gonna cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Someone is going to sign JPP this year at a lot lower price than the $13 Mm he made last year. Obviously, the price is going down every week. I’d sign him now for around $4 MM plus incentives to get him a couple $ MM more if he hits double digit sacks (9.5 last year) but I suspect he wants more. Maybe we can afford him if he’s unsigned in a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 8:58 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I agree. Generally defenses are able to get up to speed quicker but our defense was a mess. A lot of new faces. I don't think many people appreciate that. We even picked up some guys late during an offseason where they barely play. CGJ just got here in almost September. Gonna take some time for them to gel given the first two weeks are like Preseason games now. I think the D will be ok with the exception of pass rush. Not sure where that's going to come from. 10 hours ago, eggs said: Someone is going to sign JPP this year at a lot lower price than the $13 Mm he made last year. Obviously, the price is going down every week. I’d sign him now for around $4 MM plus incentives to get him a couple $ MM more if he hits double digit sacks (9.5 last year) but I suspect he wants more. Maybe we can afford him if he’s unsigned in a month. Yeah... no handouts though 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 sacks is pretty good right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxeaglesfanxx Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 more sacks today. Not sure anyone of them were from blitzes either. D looking a lot better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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