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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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Setting the over under on 2.5 other guardians pitchers get busted on this

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I don’t really want Robert jr unless it’s a mid tier prospect but this is why the white Sox are a badly run franchise and continue to be bad. Unless of course they are playing us

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t really want Robert jr unless it’s a mid tier prospect but this is why the white Sox are a badly run franchise and continue to be bad. Unless of course they are playing us

I have mixed feelings on him. He's talented. He's a CF, which is the ideal fit. He's a fantastically capable fielder with some concentration issues. And as a hitter...enigmatic. Nice swing, nice talent...but he's freaking hitting .205. But there is more ability and talent there to optimize (if one thinks the Phillies can do it).

It's all about price. They want an organization's top 10 prospect? Gabriel Rincones Jr. is the Phillies 9th ranked prospect. He is a 24 year old outfielder hitting .220 in AAA. He is n-e-v-e-r going to be an every day MLB player. They want an organization's top 10 prospect? I'd serve up #9 for Luis Robert Jr. in a heartbeat....and would still try to trade for Suarez.

Just now, eagle45 said:

I have mixed feelings on him. He's talented. He's a CF, which is the ideal fit. He's a fantastically capable fielder with some concentration issues. And as a hitter...enigmatic. Nice swing, nice talent...but he's freaking hitting .205. But there is more ability and talent there to optimize (if one thinks the Phillies can do it).

It's all about price. They want an organization's top 10 prospect? Gabriel Rincones Jr. is the Phillies 9th ranked prospect. He is a 24 year old outfielder hitting .220 in AAA. He is n-e-v-e-r going to be an every day MLB player. They want an organization's top 10 prospect? I'd serve up #9 for Luis Robert Jr. in a heartbeat....and would still try to trade for Suarez.

I’d be really surprised if the white Sox were looking at riccones and that’s why the deal didn’t get done. When it is says top 10 I’m guessing it’s closer to top 5 then it is 10. Been rumors they wanted Mets 3b and a top 10 prospect. Which mean you are likely giving up something like Abel or Tait or Escobar

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d be really surprised if the white Sox were looking at riccones and that’s why the deal didn’t get done. When it is says top 10 I’m guessing it’s closer to top 5 then it is 10. Been rumors they wanted Mets 3b and a top 10 prospect. Which mean you are likely giving up something like Abel or Tait or Escobar

Absolutely. My point was just that, for really every franchise, once you get to prospects 8-9-10...unless they are 18-20 year olds in A ball...there is almost no upside to them. Technically, a back end top 10 prospect is a pretty low price to pay for any veteran that is going to play for you. But Abel/Tait/Escobar for a guy that might come in there and hit .200...that's too rich for me. Some combination of 23 year olds a little further down the rankings that will never do anything...sure why not?

Imagine going:

C Realmuto

1b Bohm

2b Stott

SS Turner

3b Suarez

LF Harper

CF Robert Jr

RF Castellanos

That's a LOT of added power in the lineup and...IF they can right the ship with Robert Jr a bit....it leaves Stott as the only automatic freebie in the lineup for pitchers.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Absolutely. My point was just that, for really every franchise, once you get to prospects 8-9-10...unless they are 18-20 year olds in A ball...there is almost no upside to them. Technically, a back end top 10 prospect is a pretty low price to pay for any veteran that is going to play for you. But Abel/Tait/Escobar for a guy that might come in there and hit .200...that's too rich for me. Some combination of 23 year olds a little further down the rankings that will never do anything...sure why not?

That’s not always true last year when the mariners made the trade for arozerena their top 10 had more depth as it was one of the best farms systems in baseball. so really their back end of the top 10 was closer to what the Phillies top 4-6 prospects were. Again if riccones was what it took his trade would’ve been done already. The white Sox don’t want the Phillies 9th/10th best prospect. They want higher.

Crushing it:

Phillies outfielders have a .566 OPS this month. That ranks 29th in baseball. It’s a .645 OPS since June 1, 28th in baseball. The outfield is 27th in baseball since May 1 with a .666 OPS.

I’d have taken back Dominguez

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White sox are horrible, how did they lose yesterday

12 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

White sox are horrible, how did they lose yesterday

Thomson kind of alluded to yesterday after the game that they were tired cause they got in late.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Thomson kind of alluded to yesterday after the game that they were tired cause they got in late.

rolleyes

Anytime someone mentions they want Buxton he occurs an injury

Marsh hit a HR now I’ve seen it all

😂

No we don’t need bullpen arms, we’re fine there

5 hours ago, RoadToHell said:

Marsh hit a HR now I’ve seen it all

Enjoy his one game

These clowns are not going to make any big moves and the season will end just the same as always

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