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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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What I'm hearing about Mason Miller

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The Athletics, in their talks for closer Mason Miller, have focused on teams with top-end young pitching. But whether they find a club to meet their price remains to be seen.

Miller is under club control for four additional seasons. From the Philadelphia Phillies, the A’s asked for Andrew Painter, according to sources briefed on the discussions.

The New York Yankees also have been involved in the talks, but are more focused on adding pitching than subtracting it. The New York Mets, whose farm system includes perhaps more elite young arms than the Yankees’, are also a team in the mix.

The Los Angeles Dodgers are not playing at the high end of the relief market for pitchers such as Miller and the Minnesota Twins’ Jhoan Duran, sou rces say.

Sounds like the Dodgers talk is BS trying to drive up the price

just remember, alvarado F'd this team.

12 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

just remember, alvarado F'd this team.

This team was done last year

23 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

just remember, alvarado F'd this team.

That's why when he comes back for the last month, I would ride him into the dirt. Might as well. Save guys like Strahm and Kerkering for the playoffs. No way the Phillies pick up Alvarado's 26 option.

It would be organizational malpractice to trade your top pitching prospect, who projects to be a #1 or #2 for a relief pitcher. I dont care if he is the second coming of Mariano Rivera. Hopefully DD told them to get bent.

33 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

That's why when he comes back for the last month, I would ride him into the dirt. Might as well. Save guys like Strahm and Kerkering for the playoffs. No way the Phillies pick up Alvarado's 26 option.

He'll probably come back fatter and even more out of shape

4 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

POWER LINEUP!!!

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Dodgers will get him

2 hours ago, vsptroops said:

It would be organizational malpractice to trade your top pitching prospect, who projects to be a #1 or #2 for a relief pitcher. I dont care if he is the second coming of Mariano Rivera. Hopefully DD told them to get bent.

DD has boxed himself into a corner of his own construction. Two things he absolutely cannot do:

  1. Include Painter in a trade for a relief pitcher.

  2. Add nothing but a marginal relief pitcher who is not in the top rung of deadline names.

And he may have to choose one of them.

@e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! I know we always go back and forth about this farm system. I think we are about to find out what the rest of MLB thinks of it. Everyone keeps asking for Painter in a trade. He's the #1 prospect in the organization and top 10 in baseball...common sense to other teams and to us says he is untouchable.

So if no big move happens and other teams can't/won't do anything except ask for Painter, then it says a lot about Abel/Tait/Miller/Crawford/Escobar.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

DD has boxed himself into a corner of his own construction. Two things he absolutely cannot do:

  1. Include Painter in a trade for a relief pitcher.

  2. Add nothing but a marginal relief pitcher who is not in the top rung of deadline names.

And he may have to choose one of them.

Add in "We absolutely tried to add top tier talent but we were not willing to gut our farm system to do so......" I can absolutely see the Phillies doing nothing and spreading this propaganda....

PS Bring back Amaro!!! He didn't always make the "right" move but man he tried!

And we don't need another bat...I mean we are making a pitcher with a 4 plus ERA look like Cy Young.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I'll believe it when I see it! When I first saw this post I was like looks like I have to take back what I said....then I saw the word "close" and was like......come on

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

@e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! I know we always go back and forth about this farm system. I think we are about to find out what the rest of MLB thinks of it. Everyone keeps asking for Painter in a trade. He's the #1 prospect in the organization and top 10 in baseball...common sense to other teams and to us says he is untouchable.

So if no big move happens and other teams can't/won't do anything except ask for Painter, then it says a lot about Abel/Tait/Miller/Crawford/Escobar.

Eh not exactly sure about that. Trade market at the deadline is a sellers market. Would speak more if it was offseason and they didn’t want to budge off painter. Also Phillies might not be willing to give up some of those guys as well. I don’t think the Phillies really want to give up miller or Crawford either after listening to Matt gelb last night.

That’s a great deal for the Phillies. Hate losing Tait but getting Duran who has contract for 2.5 more years is awesome. IMO Abel is to hit or miss so cash in on his value

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