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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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"TORONTO -- For the Blue Jays, what happened in the sixth inning -- a nine-run bludgeoning in an 11-4 win over the heavily favored Dodgers in Game 1 of the World Series on Friday night -- was not surprising. The stakes were elevated. The opponent was mighty. The confidence, stemming from their exceptional ability to annoy and frustrate opposing pitchers, did not waver.

The Blue Jays spent five innings making Blake Snell, the best pitcher through the first three rounds of the postseason, labor as they have made other elite pitchers labor in 2025, and it was only a matter of time before the dam broke.

When it did, when Addison Barger launched the first pinch-hit grand slam in World Series history five batters and two relievers after Snell's exit, the Blue Jays demonstrated what they have been for the past six months in the franchise's first World Series game in 32 years.

"We're a pain in the ass," Blue Jays outfielder Nathan Lukes said."

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Jays use 9-run 6th to bury L.A. in statement win

The Blue Jays showed they are a powerhouse in their own right Friday night, putting Game 1 of the World Series away with a nine-run sixth inning and beating the Dodgers 11-4.

It sure must be nice to have players who are "pains in the ass" to pitchers. Phillies go golfing on the first pitch.

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1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

"TORONTO -- For the Blue Jays, what happened in the sixth inning -- a nine-run bludgeoning in an 11-4 win over the heavily favored Dodgers in Game 1 of the World Series on Friday night -- was not surprising. The stakes were elevated. The opponent was mighty. The confidence, stemming from their exceptional ability to annoy and frustrate opposing pitchers, did not waver.

The Blue Jays spent five innings making Blake Snell, the best pitcher through the first three rounds of the postseason, labor as they have made other elite pitchers labor in 2025, and it was only a matter of time before the dam broke.

When it did, when Addison Barger launched the first pinch-hit grand slam in World Series history five batters and two relievers after Snell's exit, the Blue Jays demonstrated what they have been for the past six months in the franchise's first World Series game in 32 years.

"We're a pain in the ass," Blue Jays outfielder Nathan Lukes said."

ESPN.com
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Jays use 9-run 6th to bury L.A. in statement win

The Blue Jays showed they are a powerhouse in their own right Friday night, putting Game 1 of the World Series away with a nine-run sixth inning and beating the Dodgers 11-4.

It sure must be nice to have players who are "pains in the ass" to pitchers. Phillies go golfing on the first pitch.

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It's a thing of beauty watching the jays work the count. It's not just a few of their top guys in the lineup either it's the entire lineup.

28 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

It's a thing of beauty watching the jays work the count. It's not just a few of their top guys in the lineup either it's the entire lineup.

They did a good job with that. Also put pressure on him early by getting leadoff guys on consistently and not missing pitches. I also think Snell didn’t have his best stuff last night. You could see it early. He escaped trouble in th 1st but his location and stuff wasnt as crisp as against Milwaukee. Some of that is guys weren’t chasing some pitches. If you look at his first three playoff starts, he had 9 strikeouts, 9 strikeouts, and 10. Even Phillies took walks (4) but when he came into the zone against reds, Milwaukee and us, he blew it past guys. Last night he wasn’t. only had 4 Ks.

I think I posted on here around the fourth inning, saying they really need to take advantage of the fact that his stuff and location wasn’t great. Tbh his 29 pitch first set him up to wear down by the 6th and allowed blue jays to get to the dodgers bullpen which is not good.

I view snell’s start this way, when Zach Wheeler had that stretch this year where he was unhittable for a month, you knew he was due to for a dud/clunker game. Even for as great as he is, it’s really hard to just be great for over a month straight. Really only one this year who rarely had that clunker was skenes and even he usually hit one after 6-7 starts. Snell had given up 3 ERs in his last 6 starts. that’s ridiculous at some point he had a dud coming. Kind of like Yamamoto in our series. He had like 3ERs for the last month before game 3. Then gave up 3. Curious if snell looks better game 5(assuming it gets to that)

Lmao

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Dude takes everything to heart, still hasn't figured out it's a business. I still love Harper but, he has to hold it together and hopefully they get a better bat behind him. I think he still has another great year in him. After that who knows but, I think he has at least one more

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Dude takes everything to heart, still hasn't figured out it's a business. I still love Harper but, he has to hold it together and hopefully they get a better bat behind him. I think he still has another great year in him. After that who knows but, I think he has at least one more

Tbh probably has a right to be upset with Dave. Dombrowski could’ve just said Bryce stays healthy next year we expect him to be back to mvp form. Would’ve been fine. Dombrowski running his mouth doesn’t help matter. Frankly he probably wouldn’t be thrilled if players and coaches said things about his bad offseason moves and deadlines prior to this year. It was arguably dumb to say it out loud even if he felt that way.

reading the zolecki article, boras kind of alludes to what I’ve been saying that he’s seeing less and less pitches in the zone (even this postseason was a drop off from last) and he’s beginning to see his chase rate go up trying to do more but seeing less. Was also a shot in there at the fact they need better protection behind him cause besides chase rate, the analytics in the games he played were on par from previous years even though he’s seeing less pitches. He’d see more pitches if we had a legit cleanup hitter and our cleanup spot wasn’t 20th out of 30 teams in OPS

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh probably has a right to be upset with Dave. Dombrowski could’ve just said Bryce stays healthy next year we expect him to be back to mvp form. Would’ve been fine. Dombrowski running his mouth doesn’t help matter. Frankly he probably wouldn’t be thrilled if players and coaches said things about his bad offseason moves and deadlines prior to this year. It was arguably dumb to say it out loud even if he felt that way.

reading the zolecki article, boras kind of alludes to what I’ve been saying that he’s seeing less and less pitches in the zone (even this postseason was a drop off from last) and he’s beginning to see his chase rate go up trying to do more but seeing less. Was also a shot in there at the fact they need better protection behind him cause besides chase rate, the analytics in the games he played were on par from previous years even though he’s seeing less pitches. He’d see more pitches if we had a legit cleanup hitter and our cleanup spot wasn’t 20th out of 30 teams in OPS

Great points. I just hope they can figure it out I still think he deserves a ring here

9 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Great points. I just hope they can figure it out I still think he deserves a ring here

He is fallling off and it will probably be worse next, I doubt he ends his career here

20 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

He is fallling off and it will probably be worse next, I doubt he ends his career here

He is declining cause he’s 33 not 26 when he got here. however the Phillies have done a terrible job at giving him protection behind him the last 3 years. Castellanos, realmuto and Bohm aren’t cleanup hitters

What did DD say that was so bad?

More important things right now, no Bichette tonight, he would fit right into this lineup of broken down players

3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

What did DD say that was so bad?

"He is still a quality player. He is still an All-Star caliber player. He did not have an elite season like he has in the past. I guess we will only find out if he becomes elite or if he continues to be good. Can he rise to the next level again? I don’t really know that answer. He is the one that will dictate that. I don’t think he is content with the year he had, and it wasn’t a bad year. But when you think of Bryce Harper, you think elite. You’re thinking of one of the top 10 players in baseball. I don’t think it fit into that category. He is a very good player.”

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

"He is still a quality player. He is still an All-Star caliber player. He did not have an elite season like he has in the past. I guess we will only find out if he becomes elite or if he continues to be good. Can he rise to the next level again? I don’t really know that answer. He is the one that will dictate that. I don’t think he is content with the year he had, and it wasn’t a bad year. But when you think of Bryce Harper, you think elite. You’re thinking of one of the top 10 players in baseball. I don’t think it fit into that category. He is a very good player.”

The truth, although I would disagree with all star caliber

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

More important things right now, no Bichette tonight, he would fit right into this lineup of broken down players

I’d take Bichette outside of 2024 he’s been fantastic. His career slashes are .294/.337/.469/.806. Really dragged down by his 2024 season. Add on in seasons where he played 100+ games he’s avg 23 HRs and 91 RBI.

2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

The truth, although I would disagree with all star caliber

Tbh truthful or not. He didn’t need to even say it. He was better off saying Bryce was dealing with some injuries and missed time so it affected his overall production. We believe he could be even better next year and Bryce probably agrees. Would’ve been the simplest way of going about it and not cause a stir

Frankly Harper being upset about it feels more like he’s trying to say you made me upset and you can make it up to me by giving me more money

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh truthful or not. He didn’t need to even say it. He was better off saying Bryce was dealing with some injuries and missed time so it affected his overall production. We believe he could be even better next year and Bryce probably agrees. Would’ve been the simplest way of going about it and not cause a stir

Frankly Harper being upset about it feels more like he’s trying to say you made me upset and you can make it up to me by giving me more money

There is no way they are dumb enough to give him the extension he wants, well maybe they aren't

21 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

There is no way they are dumb enough to give him the extension he wants, well maybe they aren't

I don’t think they would. However i think the next power move is Harper can ask for a trade (unlikely) or boras saying what he did to zolecki which kind of reinforces that Dave needs to actually do something to help him. Felt like that article was purposefully put out by boras to put the Phillies feet to the fire and actually do something about the cleanup spot.

Dodgers in a world of trouble if their starting pitching is going to be laboring early in games.

I’d say 2 run lead is enough with Yamamoto at 71 pitches. but if you make him work this inning then get the dodgers BP for 2 innings have a shot if you can keep it at 2

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Dodgers starting pitching is just too much, Scherzer VS ohatani is a loss most likely

20 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Dodgers starting pitching is just too much, Scherzer VS ohatani is a loss most likely

Glasnow in game 3. Jays have hit him well in his career. Also seen him a ton as he was with the rays. So good scouting report

That said dodgers SP is ridiculous. Phillies are the closest to being able to match it with wheeler. It’s why it’s irritating we have yet to just get a cleanup hitter cause it might have been the difference in winning that series.

This is the game 6 matchup, not encouraging

Hoffman looked like crap as usual

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