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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Mattingly survived nola going two batters too long, Kerkering near implosion and Alvarado. Like talk about trying to lose but somehow being super fortunate

Issue is he should be batting leadoff or second. They won’t do it cause refuse to move schwarber to 4th or have 3 consecutive LH. There’s a reason why other teams refused to use him as a cleanup more often. You are seeing why. He’s got to be leadoff or 2nd

I always hated Schwarber in lead off wish they would stop with that. I know why they do it but, still

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Whew!!! Tough win

We tried our best to give the game away but managed to win it with questionable managing and awful hitting

Two infield singles to shortstop?

Holy sheet. I just saw the highlights. Stott jack at 464ft? He's never been close to that and won't be again.

Great job cutting Cody. Well done

Im happy they won last night. But when they get to the playoffs, they are definitely losing a game in a series because Mattingly is clueless on how to use his bullpen. Last night was how to blow a game. Nola was running out of gas in the 5th but managed to survive and shouldn’t have been pitching against the two best hitters in the dbacks lineup to start the 6 especially not the third time through. McFarlane saved him. And then using Kerkering on back to back nights who’s been downright terrible the last month+. Fortunate that the diamondbacks ran themselves out of that inning. And then going to Alvarado in the 8th who was also fortunate that the Diamondbacks just kept swinging at everything. he wasn’t even close on a majority of his pitches.

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Im happy they won last night. But when they get to the playoffs, they are definitely losing a game in a series because Mattingly is clueless on how to use his bullpen. Last night was how to blow a game. Nola was running out of gas in the 5th but managed to survive and shouldn’t have been pitching against the two best hitters in the dbacks lineup to start the 6 especially not the third time through. McFarlane saved him. And then using Kerkering on back to back nights who’s been downright terrible the last month+. Fortunate that the diamondbacks ran themselves out of that inning. And then going to Alvarado in the 8th who was also fortunate that the Diamondbacks just kept swinging at everything. he wasn’t even close on a majority of his pitches.

Honestly with how unpredictable/unreliable Kerkering and Alvarado are I'd be more than fine seeing McFarlane in playoff high leverage situations before those two clowns.

So who do we trust out of the pen come playoff time at this point? Duran, Bowlan, McFarlane for sure - what about Raley and Mayza?

They can launch Kerkering and Alvarado into orbit

1 hour ago, John Blutarski said:

Honestly with how unpredictable/unreliable Kerkering and Alvarado are I'd be more than fine seeing McFarlane in playoff high leverage situations before those two clowns.

45 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

So who do we trust out of the pen come playoff time at this point? Duran, Bowlan, McFarlane for sure - what about Raley and Mayza?

They can launch Kerkering and Alvarado into orbit

They didn’t even use Raley or Mayza yesterday. And they have been far better than Alvarado and Kerkering especially of late. I get it the diamondbacks hit left-handed pitching better but if you’re gonna use Alvarado, then you might as well use Mayza or raley cause both of them are better than Alvarado.

1 hour ago, John Blutarski said:

Honestly with how unpredictable/unreliable Kerkering and Alvarado are I'd be more than fine seeing McFarlane in playoff high leverage situations before those two clowns.

People forget how Kerk first looked and how he got here very similar in ways of McFarlane. He started off like one of the best relievers and was looking like the future closer for this team. Then the playoffs happened and he couldn’t do jack. Don’t make the same mistake with McFarlane. This bullpen stinks

1 hour ago, RoadToHell said:

People forget how Kerk first looked and how he got here very similar in ways of McFarlane. He started off like one of the best relievers and was looking like the future closer for this team. Then the playoffs happened and he couldn’t do jack. Don’t make the same mistake with McFarlane. This bullpen stinks

Kerkering had much less time up before he got to the playoffs. He wasn’t called up until late September (sept 24) and had 3 outing. None of which were high leverage situations until the playoffs where he fell apart. Mcfarlane actually is going to have 2 months and to his credit he’s become a high leverage guy now based out of necessity.

1 hour ago, RoadToHell said:

People forget how Kerk first looked and how he got here very similar in ways of McFarlane. He started off like one of the best relievers and was looking like the future closer for this team. Then the playoffs happened and he couldn’t do jack. Don’t make the same mistake with McFarlane. This bullpen stinks

Understood. I've just seen enough meltdowns from Kerkering to where if I had to pick him or anyone else, I'd pick anyone else and McFarlane has pitched great so far. I'd rather not see any of Kerkering or Alvarado in the playoffs but that's probably not realistic.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kerkering had much less time up before he got to the playoffs. He wasn’t called up until late September (sept 24) and had 3 outing. None of which were high leverage situations until the playoffs where he fell apart. Mcfarlane actually is going to have 2 months and to his credit he’s become a high leverage guy now based out of necessity.

I get that part but the fact is he’s from AA we’ll have to wait and see if and when we get there how things will unfold. I’m not going to hold my breath with this bullpen, whoever is on the bump in high leverage situations except for Duran

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They didn’t even use Raley or Mayza yesterday. And they have been far better than Alvarado and Kerkering especially of late. I get it the diamondbacks hit left-handed pitching better but if you’re gonna use Alvarado, then you might as well use Mayza or raley cause both of them are better than Alvarado.

Raley pitched to one batter yesterday

56 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Raley pitched to one batter yesterday

crap i forgot he had the one batter when they pulled Kerkering

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

crap i forgot he had the one batter when they pulled Kerkering

I was confused by it since the battery was so much better against lefties than righties but it worked out

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I was confused by it since the battery was so much better against lefties than righties but it worked out

Yeah, I think I brought that up when I was watching it with my dad. I was like he hit something like 313 against left-handed pitching yet he brought him in anyways.

That was such a poorly managed game. Like they are very fortunate mattingly didn’t blow that game. People hated thomson’s used of the bullpen, but I would argue mattingly is worse.

I like Mattingly using Nola for as much as the Phillies can get out of him. It's not like you're gonna use him in October.

4 hours ago, RoadToHell said:

I get that part but the fact is he’s from AA we’ll have to wait and see if and when we get there how things will unfold. I’m not going to hold my breath with this bullpen, whoever is on the bump in high leverage situations except for Duran

He actually pitched in Triple AAA, although to be fair, it was only 4 games and 4 1/3 innings pitched in Lehigh.

43 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I like Mattingly using Nola for as much as the Phillies can get out of him. It's not like you're gonna use him in October.

The issue was the inning before he was running out of gas. You could see it. then in the 6th up a run you were facing (the third time through the order) their best hitter and their second best hitter. Which he then went and walked and gave up a hit to. He was also mid 90s pitch count entering the 6th. This isn’t about running him into the ground. This is about being smart about winning baseball games when he showed the inning before he was running out of gas, and he had to face the two best hitters in the diamondbacks lineup, which he didn’t get either one out and nearly blew that game cause of it 

I re-iterate, Arraez is bad with RISP as a cleanup hitter. He’s hitting .233 since coming here with risp and .300 with no one in scoring position

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I re-iterate, Arraez is bad with RISP as a cleanup hitter. He’s hitting .233 since coming here with risp and .300 with no one in scoring position

I was just coming in here to say here we go again with arraez wish they would change it up instead of keep going with it.

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I re-iterate, Arraez is bad with RISP as a cleanup hitter. He’s hitting .233 since coming here with risp and .300 with no one in scoring position

It’s not where he’s hitting in the lineup, it’s who his hitting coach is now trying to fix something that was never broken

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