Truly Impressive by the reds

6th time in history apparently that a team wins without getting a hit.

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Where is this "Harper missing a few games” news coming from?   I know he has a UCL tear, but that came out a few days ago.  I just assumed he was taking today off?  Haven’t seen any more news on him.  

He got some sort of plasma injection in his arm -  out today and possibly Tuesday 

30 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Where is this "Harper missing a few games” news coming from?   I know he has a UCL tear, but that came out a few days ago.  I just assumed he was taking today off?  Haven’t seen any more news on him.  

Was listening to mlb radio on Sirius. Apparently he had a prp injection today and is out today and maybe Tuesday. 

Wow what a Fing double play by Camargo to make that dive to stop it. Then a strike to segura and segura getting spiked still got it to hoskins. Also nice scoop by hoskins. 

Odubel just swung at a ball that literally went between his legs what in the actual F

That was the worst swing I've ever seen a player take. I don't know how he's managed to weasel his way onto an MLB roster.

23 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Odubel just swung at a ball that literally went between his legs what in the actual F

Gotta hope moniak can hit when he comes back. He should be back soon  as it’s been about 6 weeks since that injury. 

also Stubbs is such a better backup catcher than Knapp. 

Why is it every year we never fix our bullpen? Legitimately every year it’s the same damn issue. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why is it every year we never fix our bullpen? Legitimately every year it’s the same damn issue. 

Familia sucked last year and he sucks this year. 

Just now, John Blutarski said:

Familia sucked last year and he sucks this year. 

He’s a mediocre bullpen arm that’s best days are behind in.  shouldn’t be getting paid nearly what he is at 6 mil. Phillies acting like he was some great upgrade to the pen was laughable 

Bullpen is terrible. But F this umpire. That was a strike on the first pitch to lux. Instead of 1-2 it’s 2-1 

Another good start wasted.

Poor Nola - he can’t buy a win even when he pitches really well

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yep.  He squeezed Knebel.  But Knebel sucks.  Still a great series win.  But would have been an epic sweep.  

 the bats showed up for the series. the bullpen is still a massive issue. This series the pen pitched 12.2 innings and gave up 10 runs

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 the bats showed up for the series. the bullpen is still a massive issue. This series the pen pitched 12.2 innings and gave up 10 runs

15 walks this series by the bullpen

Death, taxes and the Phillies bullpen sucking ass

Just now, mikemack8 said:

15 walks this series by the bullpen

Death, taxes and the Phillies bullpen sucking ass

You knew as soon as bellinger hit the triple with 2 outs they were in trouble. We were fortunate to get out of the previous inning ahead considering familia had 1st and 2nd no outs and gave up a run already 

Classic loss.  Good reminder of what this team really is

Still not nearly as bad as the Mets collapse 

Something I’d like a true baseball statistician to show us…

I generally lean positive on the Phillies, but my biggest complaint has always been the feast or famine nature of the lineup.  Most of the now widespread sabermetrics (that I’m aware of) look at numbers over the course of a season to dictate what you need to win X number of games….under the assumption that a 162 game season gets you a pretty normal distribution of that productivity.

Based on my own observations of this Phillies team, I would bet they throw up more 0,1, and 2 run games than most other quality lineups that will score a comparable number of runs over this 162 game season.  I also suspect the distribution of their scoring output is less uniform than other teams.

I’m not exactly trying to make a "Jalen Hurts garbage time” debate here.  But if the offense is, in fact, dead cold on arrival for more games than most upper echelon lineups, then they aren’t as good as the first layer of stats on paper would suggest.

 

41 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Something I’d like a true baseball statistician to show us…

I generally lean positive on the Phillies, but my biggest complaint has always been the feast or famine nature of the lineup.  Most of the now widespread sabermetrics (that I’m aware of) look at numbers over the course of a season to dictate what you need to win X number of games….under the assumption that a 162 game season gets you a pretty normal distribution of that productivity.

Based on my own observations of this Phillies team, I would bet they throw up more 0,1, and 2 run games than most other quality lineups that will score a comparable number of runs over this 162 game season.  I also suspect the distribution of their scoring output is less uniform than other teams.

I’m not exactly trying to make a "Jalen Hurts garbage time” debate here.  But if the offense is, in fact, dead cold on arrival for more games than most upper echelon lineups, then they aren’t as good as the first layer of stats on paper would suggest.

 

I get what you are saying. However the biggest issue the Phillies have is their bullpen is just god awful year after year. It’s been horrific bullpen after horrific bullpen for like 6-7 years now. When you face a team like the dodgers and these good teams coming up, only way we are going to win is if the offense scores a ton and the starters can go deep enough to limit the use of the pen. Like we won 3 of 4 but easily could’ve lost 2 more due to horrific bullpen going 12.2 innings, 15 walks and 10 runs in 4 games. 

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I get what you are saying. However the biggest issue the Phillies have is their bullpen is just god awful year after year. It’s been horrific bullpen after horrific bullpen for like 6-7 years now. When you face a team like the dodgers and these good teams coming up, only way we are going to win is if the offense scores a ton and the starters can go deep enough to limit the use of the pen. Like we won 3 of 4 but easily could’ve lost 2 more due to horrific bullpen going 12.2 innings, 15 walks and 10 runs in 4 games. 

Yup.  Going nowhere.  I’d argue the bullpen is even worse than last year.

Bullpen = clutch

17 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why is it every year we never fix our bullpen? Legitimately every year it’s the same damn issue. 

Curse of Brad Lidge.

Haven't had a steady bullpen since his perfect season.