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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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On 5/15/2022 at 10:32 PM, eagle45 said:

Something I’d like a true baseball statistician to show us…

I generally lean positive on the Phillies, but my biggest complaint has always been the feast or famine nature of the lineup.  Most of the now widespread sabermetrics (that I’m aware of) look at numbers over the course of a season to dictate what you need to win X number of games….under the assumption that a 162 game season gets you a pretty normal distribution of that productivity.

Based on my own observations of this Phillies team, I would bet they throw up more 0,1, and 2 run games than most other quality lineups that will score a comparable number of runs over this 162 game season.  I also suspect the distribution of their scoring output is less uniform than other teams.

I’m not exactly trying to make a "Jalen Hurts garbage time” debate here.  But if the offense is, in fact, dead cold on arrival for more games than most upper echelon lineups, then they aren’t as good as the first layer of stats on paper would suggest.

 

So basically a higher standard deviation for runs scored per game

 

For instance, if you have five numbers: 5, 5, 5, 5, and 5, the sum is 25, and average is 5.  The standard deviation is 0, meaning each number averages 0 away from the mean.  Then, take five more numbers: 0, 10, 1, 9, and 5.  The sum is also 25, and the average is 5, but now the standard deviation is 4.04, meaning each number averages 4.04 away from the mean.

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11 hours ago, xzmattzx said:

So basically a higher standard deviation for runs scored per game

 

For instance, if you have five numbers: 5, 5, 5, 5, and 5, the sum is 25, and average is 5.  The standard deviation is 0, meaning each number averages 0 away from the mean.  Then, take five more numbers: 0, 10, 1, 9, and 5.  The sum is also 25, and the average is 5, but now the standard deviation is 4.04, meaning each number averages 4.04 away from the mean.

Yep.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

How is what this Clevinger guy does, allowed.  What a weirdo.  

I was wondering if he gets called for a balk sometimes with this weirdness.

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Typical Phillies. Play well for a week on a road trip. Go 5-2. Come home the first game they score 0 runs and the bullpen as soon as we pull our starter who was good, gives up 2 runs. 

Leave it to the Phillies offense to make Clevinger look like Cy Young. 

It's the consistency that you really love to see.

They've been held to 0 or 1 runs in 9 of their 36 games which is 25%. :facepalm:

3 hours ago, vsptroops said:

They've been held to 0 or 1 runs in 9 of their 36 games which is 25%. :facepalm:

Ball go boom!!!!

 

11 hours ago, John Blutarski said:

Leave it to the Phillies offense to make Clevinger look like Cy Young. 

 

9 hours ago, vsptroops said:

They've been held to 0 or 1 runs in 9 of their 36 games which is 25%. :facepalm:

I swear to god it’s the same Fing story every year. Bullpen, hitting is inconsistent but we get decent starters for most of the season then tails off around end of august. Literally it feels like the same BS each year for like 6 years now 

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Thank God they implemented the DH this year.

 

7 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

Thank God they implemented the DH this year.

 

I think he’s likely going to need TJ surgery. At some point i wonder when it becomes smarter to have it so we can preserve 2023 season where he doesn’t miss the bulk of it. If he has the surgery after the season i wonder how much time he miss. hoskins recovery was 4-6 months as he wasn’t a pitcher. Was playing April 1. But harper also plays outfield and it was hoskins’ non throwing arm 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think he’s likely going to need TJ surgery. At some point i wonder when it becomes smarter to have it so we can preserve 2023 season where he doesn’t miss the bulk of it. If he has the surgery after the season i wonder how much time he miss. hoskins recovery was 4-6 months as he wasn’t a pitcher. Was playing April 1. But harper also plays outfield and it was hoskins’ non throwing arm 

As long as Bryce can hit, they aren't going to shelve him. It'll be interesting to see if this injection actually works. Does anyone know of an athlete who has had this type of injection and never had anymore problems with their UCL? I can't think of anyone. If the Phillies aren't even contending for the 3rd wild card in say late August, early September and Bryce still isn't right, then I can see them talking him into having surgery early.

Well that was a nice swing by hoskins 

Good for odubel. Swung at a pitch that wasn’t going to hit him or go between his legs 

Roman Quinn is a waste of a roster sopt

On 4/2/2022 at 2:50 PM, iladelphxx said:

Scherzer is going to be 38 and has pitched a ton of innings over his career. 

I could see him having a Halladay-esque rapid decline 

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23 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

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Hurts my fantasy team. But helps the Phillies. I’ll take it lol 

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Gibson struggling today but still great not having to see chad anderson or Matt Moore picth every 5 days

DraftKings really should have betting on how the Phillies will lose. Like

— hitting disappears

— starter crumbles 

— bullpen blows it

— hitting and bullpen 

—hitting and starting pitching 

— starting pitching and bullpen 

— all of the above 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

RA Jr.'s voice is a hard listen.  Almost as bad as Seltzer on WIP.  

 

 

 

How about Vinny Velo?  You don't miss him?

Not as much as Pivetta, he was ready to turn it around very soon

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

And back to not hitting.  Great.  

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3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'm so fed up with this damn team.  How is this team ranked in the top 5 in most offensive categories, when they have so many games where they just don't hit?  All of the good they were doing at the plate in LA last week, just gone.  No real approach.  Terrible body language.  Just blah.  Hard to watch.  Fire this retired Manager.  And get someone in who will get something out of these guys.  

Ive come to the conclusion the Phillies have one good 5 year stretch and one out of the blue season left in my life. The first 38 years they’ve had 1 5 year stretch and the 93 team. So it’ll likely happen in the next 15-20 years lol 

also woman in the white behind home plate is a smoke show

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