October 4, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Hoskins Bohm Fair enough. Hoskins I get. Bohm I know nothing about, but I did see him play in Reading and he hit HR that game, so I feel compelled to like him
October 4, 20224 yr 10 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: His face and EMO attitude rub me the wrong way. I’m sure he really is concerned about my opinion. 😂 I can see that. Everyone has one of those "face guys."
October 4, 20224 yr 6 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: 5 hours ago, mikemack8 said: How pathetic is that Not as pathetic as it sounds... By the way this is going to be long with a lot of simple data- feel free to skim on by... The first 19 of those 140 years there was no postseason to make and then for the next 66 only 2 teams made the postseason (admittedly the Phillies were a train wreck in that stretch, but what do I care, that was before I was even alive). Let's look at teams that were around in 1903 (which is when the postseason started) and the number of times that they've made the postseason (number in parentheses is playoff seasons since 1969- when # of teams in postseason initially changed)- for teams that came around after 1903 but up to 1969, I've only put the number since 1969 in parentheses, since that makes for a fair comparison: Phillies: 15 (13) Braves: 28 (24) Orioles: 14 (13) Red Sox: 25 (18) Cubs: 21 (11) White Sox: 11 (7) Reds: 16 (12) Indians: 16 (13) Tigers: 16 (8) Astros: (16) Royals: (9) Angels: (10) Dodgers: 36 (23) Brewers (Seattle Pilots): (8) Twins (Washington Senators): 17 (13) New York Mets: (10) New York Yankees: 58 (29) Athletics (Phil/KC/Oak): 29 (21) Pirates: 17 (12) Padres: (7) Giants: 27 (12) Cardinals: 32 (20) Rangers (Washington Senators): (8) Nationals (Expos): (6) So, out of teams that have been around since postseason began in 1903, Phillies rank 14 out of 16 teams- bad, but not the worst. For teams starting in the divisional era, they rank tied for 8th out of 24. Not only is this not pathetic, but it's actually above the median. I've got to admit, that even surprised me. Since 1969, and the advent of postseason being bigger than just the 2 teams that meet in the world series the Phillies have been more successful than most of the league that has existed during that entire stretch. The Phillies haven't really sucked as badly as most of us thought, at least not during our lifetimes.
October 4, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, NothingClever said: Not as pathetic as it sounds... By the way this is going to be long with a lot of simple data- feel free to skim on by... The first 19 of those 140 years there was no postseason to make and then for the next 66 only 2 teams made the postseason (admittedly the Phillies were a train wreck in that stretch, but what do I care, that was before I was even alive). Let's look at teams that were around in 1903 (which is when the postseason started) and the number of times that they've made the postseason (number in parentheses is playoff seasons since 1969- when # of teams in postseason initially changed)- for teams that came around after 1903 but up to 1969, I've only put the number since 1969 in parentheses, since that makes for a fair comparison: Phillies: 15 (13) Braves: 28 (24) Orioles: 14 (13) Red Sox: 25 (18) Cubs: 21 (11) White Sox: 11 (7) Reds: 16 (12) Indians: 16 (13) Tigers: 16 (8) Astros: (16) Royals: (9) Angels: (10) Dodgers: 36 (23) Brewers (Seattle Pilots): (8) Twins (Washington Senators): 17 (13) New York Mets: (10) New York Yankees: 58 (29) Athletics (Phil/KC/Oak): 29 (21) Pirates: 17 (12) Padres: (7) Giants: 27 (12) Cardinals: 32 (20) Rangers (Washington Senators): (8) Nationals (Expos): (6) So, out of teams that have been around since postseason began in 1903, Phillies rank 14 out of 16 teams- bad, but not the worst. For teams starting in the divisional era, they rank tied for 8th out of 24. Not only is this not pathetic, but it's actually above the median. I've got to admit, that even surprised me. Since 1969, and the advent of postseason being bigger than just the 2 teams that meet in the world series the Phillies have been more successful than most of the league that has existed during that entire stretch. The Phillies haven't really sucked as badly as most of us thought, at least not during our lifetimes. Idk I’m 38, they made the playoffs 7 times in that amount of years with a big market. Went from being born until 9 before they made the playoffs. Then 9 to 23 to make it again. Now 27 to 38
October 4, 20224 yr 15 hours ago, SB52 said: Now they have to not catch the Padres. I say "Bring on the Mets" (of course I doubt that they'll catch the Padres because that would take at least one maybe two more wins against the Astros). I can't be the only person in here who remembers 1983 when the Phillies went 1-11 (and were shut out 5 times) against the Dodgers in the regular season, and everyone was wringing their hands about how the Dodgers were going to steamroll the Phillies in the playoffs because they owned them in the regular season. The playoffs are a whole different beast, and I can't imagine anything more satisfying than them sending the Mets packing (unless of course they get super hot and go all the way). Stranger things have happened- I'm sure most of us remember a wild card Cardinals team that no one really thought had a chance in the playoffs getting through the top seeded Phillies on their way to winning the World Series.
October 4, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Idk I’m 38, they made the playoffs 7 times in that amount of years with a big market. Went from being born until 9 before they made the playoffs. Then 9 to 23 to make it again. Now 27 to 38 You were just young enough to miss that 1976-1983 stretch- what I've often referred to as the "golden age" of Philadelphia sports. Our teams in all sports were playing for titles or close to it a lot in those years and that was when I was 2-9 years old. I just assumed that the Philadelphia teams would always be playing for titles. Life has sucked that delusion out of me.
October 5, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, Blazehound said: Suarez brought his A game tonight. This is what it’s like to pitch with a hangover.
October 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: This is what it’s like to pitch with a hangover. Hangover? Pffft...Dock Ellis once pitched a no-hitter while tripping balls.
October 5, 20224 yr 35 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Hangover? Pffft...Dock Ellis once pitched a no-hitter while tripping balls. Bill Spaceman Lee.
October 5, 20224 yr 42 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Hangover? Pffft...Dock Ellis once pitched a no-hitter while tripping balls. They were built tougher back then
October 5, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, NothingClever said: I say "Bring on the Mets" (of course I doubt that they'll catch the Padres because that would take at least one maybe two more wins against the Astros). I can't be the only person in here who remembers 1983 when the Phillies went 1-11 (and were shut out 5 times) against the Dodgers in the regular season, and everyone was wringing their hands about how the Dodgers were going to steamroll the Phillies in the playoffs because they owned them in the regular season. The playoffs are a whole different beast, and I can't imagine anything more satisfying than them sending the Mets packing (unless of course they get super hot and go all the way). Stranger things have happened- I'm sure most of us remember a wild card Cardinals team that no one really thought had a chance in the playoffs getting through the top seeded Phillies on their way to winning the World Series. while I agree with everything you're saying, historically speaking the Phillies have never been strong down the stretch. They've either sucked all year, or they've given us a glimmer of hope and then blow any chance by late August and into September. The team I thought that was destined to win it all was in '93 before Mitch Williams through it all away. I had the same feeling about the 2007-2010 Phillies and think it's a crime we only got one championship in that stretch. PP were better than the Giants in 2010, they were just super hot at the time and I honestly don't think the Phillies took them seriously enough.
October 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, JohnB said: while I agree with everything you're saying, historically speaking the Phillies have never been strong down the stretch. They've either sucked all year, or they've given us a glimmer of hope and then blow any chance by late August and into September. The team I thought that was destined to win it all was in '93 before Mitch Williams through it all away. I had the same feeling about the 2007-2010 Phillies and think it's a crime we only got one championship in that stretch. PP were better than the Giants in 2010, they were just super hot at the time and I honestly don't think the Phillies took them seriously enough. TBH if the Phillies woukdve just kept Lee and still went and got halladay they’d have won it in 2010. To me the Phillies were unsure if Lee would come back and it’s why they dealt him away and got a prospect back for him in that halladay deal. They still gave up at the time drabek and even d’arnaud were considered highly rated prospects and got aumonte back (some other players too). He wound up coming back the following offseason cause he loved it in Philly. Granted don’t know if they go after oswalt but i tend to think they likely would’ve anyway cause it was either a starter or bullpen as the rest of the team was loaded
October 5, 20224 yr 4 hours ago, NothingClever said: You were just young enough to miss that 1976-1983 stretch- what I've often referred to as the "golden age" of Philadelphia sports. Our teams in all sports were playing for titles or close to it a lot in those years and that was when I was 2-9 years old. I just assumed that the Philadelphia teams would always be playing for titles. Life has sucked that delusion out of me. Exactly. 38 as well…thus the reason I always get in arguments with my Dad and Uncles about how much they’ve suffered. 2 titles in 152 seasons… Really makes you wonder why my age group even deals with this (not that we have a choice if you love sports).
October 5, 20224 yr 7 hours ago, NothingClever said: I say "Bring on the Mets" (of course I doubt that they'll catch the Padres because that would take at least one maybe two more wins against the Astros). I can't be the only person in here who remembers 1983 when the Phillies went 1-11 (and were shut out 5 times) against the Dodgers in the regular season, and everyone was wringing their hands about how the Dodgers were going to steamroll the Phillies in the playoffs because they owned them in the regular season. The playoffs are a whole different beast, and I can't imagine anything more satisfying than them sending the Mets packing (unless of course they get super hot and go all the way). Stranger things have happened- I'm sure most of us remember a wild card Cardinals team that no one really thought had a chance in the playoffs getting through the top seeded Phillies on their way to winning the World Series. Scherzer and deGrom play for the Mets. BRING ON THE FING CARDINALS!!!
October 5, 20224 yr 10 minutes ago, SB52 said: Scherzer and deGrom play for the Mets. BRING ON THE FING CARDINALS!!! It’s going to be funny that the Mets play the dodgers in the nlds. That’s a ridiculous matchup. Braves as the 2 seed facing the Phillies or cardinals is a much easier matchup imo
October 5, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, SB52 said: Scherzer and deGrom play for the Mets. BRING ON THE FING CARDINALS!!! Cardinals it is. Here’s to at least a few more days of bonus Phillies baseball. I’ll be cheering for them to be successful against whoever they play until they’re eliminated or win it all.
October 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, NothingClever said: Cardinals it is. Here’s to at least a few more days of bonus Phillies baseball. I’ll be cheering for them to be successful against whoever they play until they’re eliminated or win it all. Yep. They’ll probably lose, but I’m just happy to get playoff baseball finally. Get the guys who have never been there some experience.
October 5, 20224 yr 17 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I kind of agree with everything, but I'll take what I can get. Also, how in the world does making the playoffs this year, mean they won't make it the next 10 years? That makes no sense. in 2011, we kept an aging roster which this is, alot of hitters accept harper that are good are aging, didnt make trades to get young prospects back, this is pretty much what it resembles, if we dont make it far, we have to make some trades to get young great prospects because if we dont make moves and just keep the older players, they will regress and we will back to another decade of not making the playoffs just like the 2011 team. this is not the 2007 team more like the 2011 team because like i said these stars are not young.
October 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, nipples said: Yep. They’ll probably lose, but I’m just happy to get playoff baseball finally. Get the guys who have never been there some experience. If Wheeler and Nola bring their A game, it’s a winnable series. Suarez in a game 3 win or go home scenario scares the crap out of me though.
October 5, 20224 yr 14 hours ago, GoEagles5921 said: Im not ecstatic about them but they have some good young pitching that should come up the next few years. Abel, painter, mcgarry yes but im very concerned about the hitters because they are not young, some are getting injured, how long until they regress, if they regress, we are screwed and it's no different than the 2011 team, aging hitters couldnt stay healthy we payed a decade of not making the playoffs because of that.
October 5, 20224 yr 20 hours ago, toughfighter83 said: if this was a young team, i would have something to look forward to, problem is you have money on aging players, wheeler could lose a step from his injuries, nola is nola, he's not cole hamels, he could really suck next year. every player we have on this roster that's good is aging and inconsistent besides schwarber, if we cant move on from some of these players, this might be the only time we make the playoffs, there's no young talent on this roster to build from. 07 phillies didnt have aging talent that's why we went on a long run. and yet here you are, whining like schoolgirl instead of living in the moment. well, enjoy your misery.
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