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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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4 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

So Stubbs in middle relief tomorrow?, Horrible managing has almost guaranteed a loss tomorrow, only garbage left

Padres not using Suarez and hader tonight is a smart move on their part. Means tomorrow in a bullpen game you get them likely for an inning each. So it’s a 7 inning game for us. Meaning we have to hit clevinger early. game 5 is darvish pitching so there’s a chance they could use them back to back days. The no off day from game 5 to 6 is going to really cause issues unless the starters of wheeler, darvish, nola and snell can go 7 innings  

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Nonsensical explanation by Thomson saying Suarez has not pitched in 9 days is why he took him out, well obviously that nine days helped him, it did not hurt him, there is no reason to destroy the pen tonight.

3 more outs. 

You play to win the game

3 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

You play to win the game

Goal is to win series not just one game, game could have been won with Suarez staying in and saving bullpen

Oh man that looked like a bad call

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Oh man that looked like a bad call

It was damn close. Seen that call go both ways.

2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Oh man that looked like a bad call

not really. He clearly went. 

Ugly game but great win. Tomorrow is huge.

2-1 ****es!

6 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Goal is to win series not just one game, game could have been won with Suarez staying in and saving bullpen

Can’t win the series without winning games.  YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

4 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

Can’t win the series without winning games.  YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

Like I said game could have been won and would have been with Suarez going longer and saving Pen, there are no good relievers left for tomorrow, Alvarado and Dominguz are not going to pitch, good managers play to win BOTH game and series, thomas played this game like it was game 7 world series

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6 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Like I said game could have been won and would have been with Suarez going longer and saving Pen, there are no good relievers left for tomorrow, Alvarado and Dominguz are not going to pitch, good managers play to win BOTH game and series, thomas played this game like it was game 7 world series

You don’t know that. All we know for sure is what happened 

Huge win.  If they can somehow win tomorrow……

7 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Like I said game could have been won and would have been with Suarez going longer and saving Pen, there are no good relievers left for tomorrow, Alvarado and Dominguz are not going to pitch, good managers play to win BOTH game and series, thomas played this game like it was game 7 world series

You don’t know that. Just because Suarez was pitching well doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have given up runs if he had gone another inning. I mean just look at what happened with Musgrove when he went back out in the 6th. 
 

Personally I probably would have left him in, then pulled him if he gave up a hit. But it’s crazy to say they definitely still would have won if Suarez pitched into the 6th. 

7 minutes ago, nipples said:

You don’t know that. Just because Suarez was pitching well doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have given up runs if he had gone another inning. I mean just look at what happened with Musgrove when he went back out in the 6th. 
 

Personally I probably would have left him in, then pulled him if he gave up a hit. But it’s crazy to say they definitely still would have won if Suarez pitched into the 6th. 

No it was not guaranteed but the way he was pitching it was likely and it would have saved the pen, elimination game you go all out, there was no need to go to pen that early

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

No it was not guaranteed but the way he was pitching it was likely and it would have saved the pen, elimination game you go all out, there was no need to go to pen that early

He probably could have just pitched all 9 and started tomorrow too

1 minute ago, BirdsFanBill said:

He probably could have just pitched all 9 and started tomorrow too

Ridiculous comment, no one said he had to pitch 9 innings

6-5 in their next 11 equals parade.

I'd prefer 6-0 in their next 6, but this is Philly.

 

The crazy thing is that if they win the WS they will have more wins in the postseason (13) than they did in September(11)

What an incredible turnaround.

8 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

No it was not guaranteed but the way he was pitching it was likely and it would have saved the pen, elimination game you go all out, there was no need to go to pen that early

Larry Andersen was saying he believed Suarez had "tweeked” something based on how he kept digging in the mound. 

My concern with Thomson is he is managing like he has the late 90's Yankees bullpen when in reality he really only has 2 guys that can be trusted. Heck, even the 08 Phillies had more guys who were a lot more dependable than what they have now( Durbin, Eyre, Romero, Madson). It's worked out for him so far but my fear is he keeps pulling the starters at low pitch counts and burns out the bullpen which costs them a game. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Larry Andersen was saying he believed Suarez had "tweeked” something based on how he kept digging in the mound. 

He didn't, Thomson explained why he took him out

I'm not sure if Falter is going to go 3 or 5 or 6 tomorrow, or if Thor can make up the difference to 6 or 7.

It would be really nice to dial up one of those 5 HR 11 run explosions from the Phillies bats, like game 4 of the 2008 WS.

 

2 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

My concern with Thomson is he is managing like he has the late 90's Yankees bullpen when in reality he really only has 2 guys that can be trusted. Heck, even the 08 Phillies had more guys who were a lot more dependable than what they have now( Durbin, Eyre, Romero, Madson). It's worked out for him so far but my fear is he keeps pulling the starters at low pitch counts and burns out the bullpen which costs them a game. 

The bullpen already has been burned to the ground and maybe 4 games left, people are acting like it is game 7 of world series, that is when you go all out, you have to try to win but also be smart, it is not a one or the other choice, both can be done

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