Nothing like going to gas can Ruiz in a 3-1 game with an off day the day before. 

This ump is dreadful 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Nothing like going to gas can Ruiz in a 3-1 game with an off day the day before. 

Ha he showed you 

9 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Oh good Ruiz  is in for no good reason

 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Nothing like going to gas can Ruiz in a 3-1 game with an off day the day before. 

Double reverse jinx worked 

At least Stott is getting going. Too bad the rest of the team can’t hit worth crap.

0-6 with RISP 

Bryson Stott 3 hits

rest of the Phillies 3 hits 

Phillies have struggled as much as they have over the last month due to RISP & BP. Since Tigers series, the Phillies are hitting .222 (44-198) with RISP. In July they are hitting .240 (31-129). Take the dodgers series out of the July numbers it’s .214 (22-103). since the dodgers series .230 (15-65) and 4 hitless games (10 total games) with RISP

also realmuto hit .205 with RISP in 2023. He’s been worse this year as he’s hitting .170. Yet batting in the 5 hole. 

 

 

Unl the PTBNL is a high profile pick from this year's draft, they traded two Low A guys for him who aren't in their top 20 prospects.... 

Interesting/weird trade.  I think this all they were willing to do in the OF.  This cements their platoon with Marsh.  

Pache wasn’t going to do much for them.  And this confirms that they have lost all confidence in Seranthony…and they did not intend to use him in the playoffs.

So they traded 2 guys they didn’t plan to use in October for their final plan in the OF.  It’s a final plan that won’t get anyone excited…but it’s going to be Marsh/Hays in LF.  I don’t see how they’d bother doing this if they had any intention of adding another bat.

But they will add a reliever now.  And reliever rentals, even elite ones, generally come cheap at the deadline.

So they chose to creatively do the best they could without giving up any prospects of any value.  I don’t think our prospects are worth enough to not try to make a bigger impact than that in the interest of keeping them.  Oh well, we’ll see how it plays out.

24 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Interesting/weird trade.  I think this all they were willing to do in the OF.  This cements their platoon with Marsh.  

Pache wasn’t going to do much for them.  And this confirms that they have lost all confidence in Seranthony…and they did not intend to use him in the playoffs.

So they traded 2 guys they didn’t plan to use in October for their final plan in the OF.  It’s a final plan that won’t get anyone excited…but it’s going to be Marsh/Hays in LF.  I don’t see how they’d bother doing this if they had any intention of adding another bat.

But they will add a reliever now.  And reliever rentals, even elite ones, generally come cheap at the deadline.

So they chose to creatively do the best they could without giving up any prospects of any value.  I don’t think our prospects are worth enough to not try to make a bigger impact than that in the interest of keeping them.  Oh well, we’ll see how it plays out.

I’m reading Hays full time left field and Marsh/Rojas platoon in center.

44 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

Unl the PTBNL is a high profile pick from this year's draft, they traded two Low A guys for him who aren't in their top 20 prospects.... 

yeah, I said the same thing last night. that offer wasn’t all that great. It was easily able to match and probably beat for him.

Dombrowski has done a lot of good things for the Phillies. But I would say his deadline last year was an overlooked reason that cost them a World Series. Obviously kimbrel and chase rate and poor risp cost them too. But the fact that he went into the deadline, knowing that that team struggles for stretches with runners in scoring position and missed Hoskins bat, and then decided that Rudolfo Castro was going to be enough was a huge mistake. Because frankly, I think they probably beat the diamondbacks in five games and never even gets to a game six or seven if they made the splash. Frankly i think they would’ve beaten the rangers.

10 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I’m reading Hays full time left field and Marsh/Rojas platoon in center.

Makes sense too, but regardless…I think the move cements their plan for the outfield.

 

2-5

14 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Feels like this is going to be a long night 

It was.

13 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Harper is not even close to a good at 1st

He's actually been very good, especially given his complete lack of playing there basically before the age of 30.  Last night was really bad though.  Then again, the rest of the team joined in.  The need to get their heads out of their collective backside.

11 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Phillies have struggled as much as they have over the last month due to RISP & BP. Since Tigers series, the Phillies are hitting .222 (44-198) with RISP. In July they are hitting .240 (31-129). Take the dodgers series out of the July numbers it’s .214 (22-103). since the dodgers series .230 (15-65) and 4 hitless games (10 total games) with RISP

also realmuto hit .205 with RISP in 2023. He’s been worse this year as he’s hitting .170. Yet batting in the 5 hole. 

Seems like it started with the London series.   I hated that on the schedule as soon as I saw it.   Just far far too distruptive to creatures of habit like baseball players.  Not an excuse, but that major hiccup seemed to change something.  They need to get their heads right.   Most of their issues right now appear to be mental.

Could "Someone" change the title of this thread?  That's what f'ing caused this slide!

Wow it fell apart quick for this team.  Always next year!

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Seems like it started with the London series.   I hated that on the schedule as soon as I saw it.   Just far far too distruptive to creatures of habit like baseball players.  Not an excuse, but that major hiccup seemed to change something.  They need to get their heads right.   Most of their issues right now appear to be mental.

Yup. They are 20-20 since going to London. I’d add i think some of this started when they went to Colorado. They didn’t look the same on that road trip and really haven’t played consistent since then. They are 27-25 since the Rockies series started. That’s 52 games which is just 2 games short of a 1/3 of the season. At some point it is less of just a slump and more this is who you are for a large stretch. Not that they can’t turn it around and play much better but 1/3 of a season playing at this pace is a bigger concern than people want to admit. Some of it was injuries to guys but everyone is back now and they actually have played worse. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. They are 20-20 since going to London. I’d add i think some do this started when they went to Colorado. They didn’t look the same on that road trip and really haven’t played consistent since then. They are 27-25 since the Rockies series started. L That’s 52 games which is just 2 games short of a 1/3 of the season. At some point it is less of just a slump and more this is who you are for a large stretch. Not that they can’t turn it around and play much better but 1/3 of a season playing at this pace is a bigger concern than people want to admit. Some of it was injuries to guys but everyone is back know and they actually have played worse. 

No different than last year.  Very streaky and inconsistent.  I don’t expect anything different come the postseason.  If they aren’t hot, then forget it.  Because this version of the Phillies is beatable by just about any team in baseball.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. They are 20-20 since going to London. I’d add i think some do this started when they went to Colorado. They didn’t look the same on that road trip and really haven’t played consistent since then. They are 27-25 since the Rockies series started. L That’s 52 games which is just 2 games short of a 1/3 of the season. At some point it is less of just a slump and more this is who you are for a large stretch. Not that they can’t turn it around and play much better but 1/3 of a season playing at this pace is a bigger concern than people want to admit. Some of it was injuries to guys but everyone is back know and they actually have played worse. 

For some reason this seems to happen at times.   Players go down, others step up in their absence because they have to... and then when the injured players return, everyone breathes out a sigh of relief and takes their foot off the pedal.  

Realmuto should likely not be in the 5 hole immediately returning from his injury.  He should probably be in the 7 hole.  But that puts Castellanos back in the 5... or Marsh against righties.  Hays is a guy that I think could take on that role facing lefties though.  But, with his pop against lefty pitching do you want him in the 4 hole closer to Harper and Schwarber, whom you know will draw every lefty the opposition has available?   But, with them only needing to face 3 batters and then come out... it really is all about Turner being able to crush the lefties that come in to deal with Schwarber and Harper more than it would be the guy to follow them.  Though... he might be better than Bohm, Castellanos or Realmuto in that spot.    Of course, that leaves the question about the line up when Marsh plays against righties.  

 

This is where adding a big bat into the order would really help everything... and there's one out there, to play CF, who is very young and wouldn't be 'mortgaging the future' to land, but it would mean a big price tag.   But, I don't think there's anyway this team makes the move.  Cost prohibitive.

1 minute ago, GoEagles5921 said:

No different than last year.  Very streaky and inconsistent.  I don’t expect anything different come the postseason.  If they aren’t hot, then forget it.  Because this version of the Phillies is beatable by just about any team in baseball.

Said since last year they never actually replaced Rhys hoskins. He got hurt and their deadline solution was rudolfo Castro. People might not have loved Rhys but he gave you 3 things they miss: 1) RH power and someone to hit in the 5 hole. They are using Jt who’s hit .205 and .167 the last two years with RISP. He shouldn’t be. Stott isn’t a 5. Castellanos is too hot or cold. And marsh frankly is vastly overrated by this franchise. 2) grinds at bats. He’ll see a ton of pitches and make pitchers work. Might get a mistake or the next guy will. They miss that. 3) in 2022 he hit .292 with RISP. You don’t just lose that and not expect a drop off. They have yet to replace it as Dombrowski had deadline last year, offseason and now another deadline.

i said before the year i thought doing nothing but adding Merrifield to the roster while other teams in the NL made moves would catch up to them. Ultimately leading to a disappointing out in the NLDS. As i watch this team they have similar issues to last year; 2-3 RP you trust and a lineup that is feast or famine with RISP (playoffs they hit a bunch of homers so it got overlooked til the end but they hit .218, .219 and .230 in the 3 series with RISP. That .230 is worse when you consider games 1 and 3-7 they hit .159)

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

For some reason this seems to happen at times.   Players go down, others step up in their absence because they have to... and then when the injured players return, everyone breathes out a sigh of relief and takes their foot off the pedal.  

Realmuto should likely not be in the 5 hole immediately returning from his injury.  He should probably be in the 7 hole.  But that puts Castellanos back in the 5... or Marsh against righties.  Hays is a guy that I think could take on that role facing lefties though.  But, with his pop against lefty pitching do you want him in the 4 hole closer to Harper and Schwarber, whom you know will draw every lefty the opposition has available?   But, with them only needing to face 3 batters and then come out... it really is all about Turner being able to crush the lefties that come in to deal with Schwarber and Harper more than it would be the guy to follow them.  Though... he might be better than Bohm, Castellanos or Realmuto in that spot.    Of course, that leaves the question about the line up when Marsh plays against righties.  

 

This is where adding a big bat into the order would really help everything... and there's one out there, to play CF, who is very young and wouldn't be 'mortgaging the future' to land, but it would mean a big price tag.   But, I don't think there's anyway this team makes the move.  Cost prohibitive.

I mentioned this last year, realmuto shouldn’t be a 5 hole hitter anymore. He was .205 with RISP in 2023. This year he’s .167 with RISP. When he doesn’t have guys in scoring position or on base he hits .311. Last year he was hitting .267. The issue is the Phillies don’t have someone that can be consistent enough for the 5 hole. Like i mentioned in the post above they miss Rhys. In 2022 he hit .292 with risp. He also gives you power from the RH side. Plus grinds through at bats. While he can be super cold at times he almost always grinds in bats. They never actually replaced what they lost when he got hurt in ST in 2023.

I don’t think they make that move either. Frankly Robert has issues staying healthy but also while great RH power he kind of has the same problem Castellanos does at times where he has a really bad chase rate which causes him to go really cold. Tbh the time to upgrade what they needed was in the offseason. With the extra WC team and Phillies/dbacks doing what they did the last two years it’s keeping more teams in the race and less guys available and higher price tag. It’s why i think making upgrades in the offseason that only cost you money makes more sense in today’s era of baseball and making trades on the peripheral at the deadline.