34 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Disagree.  The more possessions you give another team, the more opportunities there is for a blown assignment, a player falling down and leaving someone wide open, a bad penalty.

Physically dominate a team and score TD's, and give them less chances to do anything about it.

Let me ask you this hypothetical. Suppose you agree to a free throw shooting contest with someone who is elite at it. Would you want to make it a challenge of 100 free throws each or just one shot each?

The reality is, if you’re an average guy, you’d have a zero percent chance with 100 shots each. If it’s just one, there’s maybe a five percent chance he’d miss and give you a chance to win.

It’s the way casinos make money. The longer you play, the greater advantage to the house. 

If you’re the better football team, you would prefer a game with fifteen possessions each rather than eight. 

3 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Let me ask you this hypothetical. Suppose you agree to a free throw shooting contest with someone who is elite at it. Would you want to make it a challenge of 100 free throws each or just one shot each?

The reality is, if you’re an average guy, you’d have a zero percent chance with 100 shots each. If it’s just one, there’s maybe a five percent chance he’d miss and give you a chance to win.

It’s the way casinos make money. The longer you play, the greater advantage to the house. 

If you’re the better football team, you would prefer a game with fifteen possessions each rather than eight. 

We used that plan against Dallas and it did not work.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I ask again, when was the last time a game was cancelled and not scheduled to be made up?

It doesn’t matter. 

2 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Let me ask you this hypothetical. Suppose you agree to a free throw shooting contest with someone who is elite at it. Would you want to make it a challenge of 100 free throws each or just one shot each?

The reality is, if you’re an average guy, you’d have a zero percent chance with 100 shots each. If it’s just one, there’s maybe a five percent chance he’d miss and give you a chance to win.

It’s the way casinos make money. The longer you play, the greater advantage to the house. 

If you’re the better football team, you would prefer a game with fifteen possessions each rather than eight. 

Same principle as why guilty defendants want a trial by jury instead of trial by judge.  Easier to BS a jury of twelve "peers" than one scholar of law

 

 

12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Same principle as why guilty defendants want a trial by jury instead of trial by judge.  Easier to BS a jury of twelve "peers" than one scholar of law

 

 

Man, I was so disappointed with his new Netflix special.  One of my favorite comedians but sadly, he was much funnier when he wasn't as popular.  So much of his routine used to be relating to the common man and while he still tries to it just didn't work.  His first few specials though are still great though. 

38 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

If Hurts can't go this Sunday, it's fair to say we've not been told the entire truth on the extent of his injury.

I think the injury itself was pretty straightforward and is common in qbs. If it was more serious he wouldn't have been able to practice at all. 

Holding him out last week was probably more of a reaction to how the offense did against the Cowboys. I am sure the coaches figured they would be fine without him one more week, and getting him the extra recovery time was a luxury they could afford. As it turns out, they guessed wrong. 

Just now, jsb235 said:

I think the injury itself was pretty straightforward and is common in qbs. If it was more serious he wouldn't have been able to practice at all. 

Holding him out last week was probably more of a reaction to how the offense did against the Cowboys. I am sure the coaches figured they would be fine without him one more week, and getting him the extra recovery time was a luxury they could afford. As it turns out, they guessed wrong. 

Well they could have easily won last week with Minshew, if they ran the ball. They were mistaken in thinking they could just throw it all over the field last week. 

45 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Injuries are the primary concern for the team, not coaching.  The Niners are currently the media's darlings -- was Shanahan an idiot because they were losing games early in the season to Chicago, Denver, and Atlanta in the first 6 weeks?  It was injuries.

Get the starting QB back into the lineup, along with Gardner-Johnson and reassess how the team looks.  If Hurts can't go this Sunday, it's fair to say we've not been told the entire truth on the extent of his injury.

Disagree.  The way the coaches adapted the game plans through the injuries was concerning.

27 minutes ago, downundermike said:

We used that plan against Dallas and it did not work.

We gave away 4 of those possessions, and lost with a chance to win on the last one.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

We gave away 4 of those possessions, and lost with a chance to win on the last one.

And proved with every possession we had no way to stop the Cowboys offense

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It doesn’t matter. 

I asked for a purpose.  It does matter, maybe not for today, maybe not for any real reason, but it matters.  

 

The reason I asked is because it could be one of those arcane rules that has become outdated due to domes and teams having greater mobility to change venues if weather considerations are too bad to be able to play the game on the day scheduled, in the scheduled location.  So, the curiosity came out of that.  Turns out that a regular season game, even with Covid in the recent history, hasn't been canceled in 88 years... basically the length of time that the Eagles have been in the league 1933 vs. 1935.  

We saw that this year, the Buffalo game was moved to Detroit to allow them to play without having to even reschedule the date, due to weather.

There had never been a game cancelled due to player health in the history of the league.  So, the reason I asked is because I think its pretty clear that the NFL will be looking at changing that rule in the very near future now.  Seems that they have augmented the rule for this year now.  But, the question absolutely does matter about when it has happened last and when the rule was put into place.   The reason I ask is because times and seasons change, the rules on a million other things have been updated since the 1930s.  Has this even been discussed at a league meeting in the past decade or two?  I'm guessing it did come up with Covid hanging over the heads of the teams.  But, was this rule put in place because of Covid, and they didn't dictate the reason for the cancellation because it was deemed obvious that Covid could be the only reason?

 

I have a lot of questions about this rule.   I also have a lot of questions about the rule amendment.  

Bottom line for me:

If the Eagles D gives up more than 27 points to the Giants on Sunday, their chance at winning a playoff game diminishes greatly.

 

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I ask again, when was the last time a game was cancelled and not scheduled to be made up?

If I may butt in -- when was the last time a game was cancelled this late in the season? I'm sure that if the game in question were the 4th week of the season, it would in all likelihood be finished at another time before the playoffs. This late in the season makes it a challenge.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

That is Negadelphian thinking.

It just feels right

41 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Man, I was so disappointed with his new Netflix special.  One of my favorite comedians but sadly, he was much funnier when he wasn't as popular.  So much of his routine used to be relating to the common man and while he still tries to it just didn't work.  His first few specials though are still great though. 

Like Shane Gillis

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

Yeah weird how they could take exception to getting screwed because the NFL was lazy and didnt want to think too hard.

They and the Ravens could be a coin flip from hosting a divisional game.  A freaking coin flip. 

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Zac should recognize that there's no rule book in place for what has just happened... aka, there's no black and white to go by.   When was the last time a regular season game was cancelled like this and not scheduled to be made up?  

There actually is a rule book and they broke it, theyre currently making up the rules as they go

2 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

Just an FYI the days before last weeks game, I stated my concerns and was scoffed at. During the game, no one was laughing.

I once again address my concerns, they remain the same.  It's not negadelphian thinking, it's reality. This team has some real blemeshes that are major concerns. This is NOT the same team it was 5 -6 weeks ago. 

All teams have major concerns, but you don’t note any of those concerns. You also spend no time discussing the positives … only the negatives.

10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

It just feels right

I understand and respect that.  I simply choose a different path.  For me 13 celebrations far outweighs 3 disappointments.  That is what feels right for me.

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah weird how they could take exception to getting screwed because the NFL was lazy and didnt want to think too hard.

They and the Ravens could be a coin flip from hosting a divisional game.  A freaking coin flip. 

There actually is a rule book and they broke it, theyre currently making up the rules as they go

How are the Bengals getting screwed? They were awarded a division title when they hadn't clinched it yet. And the league created provisions whereby they may not have to go to Kansas City for a championship game if they get there even though as it stands now, they're a game and a half behind the Chiefs.

It feels to me like the Bengals made out pretty well.

35 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I asked for a purpose.  It does matter, maybe not for today, maybe not for any real reason, but it matters.  

 

The reason I asked is because it could be one of those arcane rules that has become outdated due to domes and teams having greater mobility to change venues if weather considerations are too bad to be able to play the game on the day scheduled, in the scheduled location.  So, the curiosity came out of that.  Turns out that a regular season game, even with Covid in the recent history, hasn't been canceled in 88 years... basically the length of time that the Eagles have been in the league 1933 vs. 1935.  

We saw that this year, the Buffalo game was moved to Detroit to allow them to play without having to even reschedule the date, due to weather.

There had never been a game cancelled due to player health in the history of the league.  So, the reason I asked is because I think its pretty clear that the NFL will be looking at changing that rule in the very near future now.  Seems that they have augmented the rule for this year now.  But, the question absolutely does matter about when it has happened last and when the rule was put into place.   The reason I ask is because times and seasons change, the rules on a million other things have been updated since the 1930s.  Has this even been discussed at a league meeting in the past decade or two?  I'm guessing it did come up with Covid hanging over the heads of the teams.  But, was this rule put in place because of Covid, and they didn't dictate the reason for the cancellation because it was deemed obvious that Covid could be the only reason?

 

I have a lot of questions about this rule.   I also have a lot of questions about the rule amendment.  

The rule might not have been written in the spirit of a player dying, but it was written to cover a game being canceled, which is what happened. It likely was written in a generic way to cover for unforeseen circumstances — weather, plague, world wars, team bus breaking down, etc. 

I don’t think there’s a very strong reason to veer away from the rule book because the rule does a great job of removing emotion from it.

I don’t know how they could amend the rule in the future, but maybe they just stick with some clause regarding commissioner having the ability to supersede the rule book. 

8 minutes ago, mattwill said:

All teams have major concerns, but you don’t note any of those concerns. You also spend no time discussing the positives … only the negatives.

what? What other teams should I be discussing- this is the Eagles- thats the team I follow? 

- and BS on dont discuss the positives, when the positives were abundant, thats all I did, but now I see more negatives than positives. 

I am no BLIND fan who only talks in glowing terms. I will call out their issues, right now there are plenty

 

52 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And proved with every possession we had no way to stop the Cowboys offense

Gannons soft zone. 

7 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

How are the Bengals getting screwed? They were awarded a division title when they hadn't clinched it yet. And the league created provisions whereby they may not have to go to Kansas City for a championship game if they get there even though as it stands now, they're a game and a half behind the Chiefs.

It feels to me like the Bengals made out pretty well.

They lost the chance to host an AFCCG, the thing teams like the Bengals literally fight all year to achieve.  You dont think they want a chance to earn that now that theyre playing well and just made a similar run last season?

You think their fans are happy about that?

Youre going to see an empty stadium AFCG in all likelihood.  Totally unacceptable to me.

 

If the Eagles made it to the NFCCG this year as the #1, how would you like to go to Detroit or something to play the Niners?

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

They lost the chance to host an AFCCG, the thing teams like the Bengals literally fight all year to achieve.  You dont think they want a chance to earn that now that theyre playing well and just made a similar run last season?

You think their fans are happy about that?

Youre going to see an empty stadium AFCG in all likelihood.  Totally unacceptable to me.

Why on earth would it be empty?