25 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

 

Likely a PFF score so take it for what it is. 1st in Illegal Man Downfield penalty calls too, I suspect. Frankly, I don’t see him outperforming Isaac, who starts every shotgun play away staring back at Hurts and then tapping Kelce.  Of course, the fact that Seumalo uses a C stance helps him perfect that.  Glad JustRelax pointed that out. 

55 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Show me what week only had 13 games

Week 9 and week 14 of the 2022 NFL season had 13 games.

Seeing as you made another factually incorrect statement, let me finish burying another one of your hot takes.

You said any given NFL week, 70-80% of the games are close ( 1 score or less )

Here is the entire NFL schedule margin of victory, and the blowouts highlighted in yellow, and the bottom shows weeks that met your criteria bolded in red ( which is 1 by the way ).  Only 4 of 18 weeks had an average margin of victory of 1 score.  I removed the two ties as there is margin of victory.

For the season, 56.88% of games were not a blow out, not 70-80%.

 

 

 

Why do you continue to make hot takes, and then when I dive into the data you wont admit you are wrong, so you make me go all in and make you look incredibly foolish.

20 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Is Elliot the best K in Eagles history?

23 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

 

The core similarity is that both teams were the NFL's finest powerhouse all year long and then the wheels fell off, largely due to injuries, at the very end of the season.

 

15 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Well, Elliott was the leading scorer for the Eagles last week.  

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

1) I stand by my comment, I have no idea where your getting these numbers from and the funny think is you splitting hairs to the 2nd decimal place

2) You still havent given me a college week, when to be honest with you, if amazing itself since I've asked you 4 times over the last day and yet you have time to build made up chars.

You never asked me to give you a college week.  I pointed out that the Eagles blow teams, out, game two examples and asked do you not enjoy it if the Eagles blow teams out, you replied with this 

19 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

Nope. but what you keep missing is, that week of the NFL I'd say 70-80% of the games were close, 1 score games.

 

The entire discussion since then is about the NFL, and for the season, this is incorrect.  Only one of the 18 weeks in the NFL meet this criteria, so once again, 

YOU MADE A HOT TAKE STATEMENT, AND YOU HAVE BEEN DESTROYED.

 

I actually dont mind the illegal man downfield rule, as annoying as it can be when it takes a big play off the board.

I just like to appreciate the orchestra of timing and movement it requires to execute those types of plays.  And do we really need yet another rule to make it easier on the offenses?

Its a difficult play to pull off so I think it should be a little challenging 

25 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Is Elliot the best K in Eagles history?

Probably between him and David Akers.  (For as long as I've followed the team). 

A question for the blog before I crush bacarty some more, what is considered a blow out in a college or NFL game ??

I have googled, and there is no consensus number.  Saying anything that is not a 1 score game is a blowout is a little ridiculous.

Looking at college, 40% of college football games back to 2005 have a margin of victory of 14 or less points, is 14 points a blowout ??

 

What do you say the number is for college ??

1 hour ago, garingovt2000 said:

They were talking this morning on the radio that Ohio is still having some issues with the NIL so Marvin Harrison Jr. might jump ship.  Come on PSU i know you guys all love them.   That said he probably goes to USC if he does indeed leave.

Has been talk for a while that USC is tampering to try to get him 

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

A question for the blog before I crush bacarty some more, what is considered a blow out in a college or NFL game ??

I have googled, and there is no consensus number.  Saying anything that is not a 1 score game is a blowout is a little ridiculous.

Looking at college, 40% of college football games back to 2005 have a margin of victory of 14 or less points, is 14 points a blowout ??

 

What do you say the number is for college ??

20+

Last thing @Bacarty2, and then I am done wrecking you for the day.

I am not sure who you are to decide what a blowout is, so here is a range of samples.  And most things I have read seem to agree 17+ points is a blowout in college.  Using the data provided of all college football margins of victory, 2005-2022

https://cleanuphitter.com/cfb/stats/cfb_common_scores.php

The following is specific margins of victory in college for the last 17 years.

35% of college football games have a single digit margin of victory.

48.7% of college football games have a two TD or less margin of victory.

54.7% of college football games have a 17 point or less margin of victory.

 

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

A question for the blog before I crush bacarty some more, what is considered a blow out in a college or NFL game ??

I have googled, and there is no consensus number.  Saying anything that is not a 1 score game is a blowout is a little ridiculous.

Looking at college, 40% of college football games back to 2005 have a margin of victory of 14 or less points, is 14 points a blowout ??

 

What do you say the number is for college ??

Winning by 3 possessions is a crushing I would say

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

20+

Have not extrapolated out that far yet

1 minute ago, BwianWestbwook said:

Winning by 3 possessions is a crushing I would say

See my post above, only 45.2% of college games would be considered a blowout if 3 possessions is the bar.

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I'd rather go with discretion than change the rule - the ramifications of linemen legally blocking DOWNfield could be exploited... I imagine RPOs would be even more effective, you could start picking off LBs so that they can't get to their coverage assignments.  Dangerous to balance...

In any case, Kelce was waaay downfield on that penalty - a definite gaffe for a veteran player. 

As has been the case many times before, it might not have been a gaffe by Kelce at all. When Hurts holds the ball on RPOs, that causes OLs to be downfield. Hurts did that all the time in his second rookie season.  Now in his 3rd rookie season hes been much better on that. But I do believe he held the ball too long on that one last game.

 

18 minutes ago, downundermike said:

A question for the blog before I crush bacarty some more, what is considered a blow out in a college or NFL game ??

I have googled, and there is no consensus number.  Saying anything that is not a 1 score game is a blowout is a little ridiculous.

Looking at college, 40% of college football games back to 2005 have a margin of victory of 14 or less points, is 14 points a blowout ??

 

What do you say the number is for college ??

 

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

20+

 

5 minutes ago, BwianWestbwook said:

Winning by 3 possessions is a crushing I would say

I agree w 3 so for me it's 18+ points or more. 

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Have not extrapolated out that far yet

See my post above, only 45.2% of college games would be considered a blowout if 3 possessions is the bar.

Id agree. More than 2 TDs, so like 17 points is a blowout imo.

2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I agree w 3 so for me it's 18+ points or more. 

There you go @Bacarty2, multiple posters agreeing that 3 scores is a blowout in college football.

That only happens 45.2% of the time.

20 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I just think theres a difference between a pick and roll 12 yards down the field and an offensive linemen wondering 2 yards down field looking like the playstation remote came un plugged

True, but to me it requires discipline and I like that

Really, those plays (mostly screens where you see that penalty) can be pretty devastating for a defense--not just the effectiveness of the play, but it can deliver bone-crunching hits when you get OL running full speed at a defender who cant see him coming.  So I don't mind a rule that prevents that sort of thing.

The other time you see that penalty is when a QB is scrambling around and, again, I don't mind the call there. 

@Bacarty2

So can a lineman who goes too far down field walk himself back to within a yard to avoid a penalty? Does this happen?

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

And then Georgia obliterates any combination of the other 3, leaving us right back where we started: Complaining about a blowout in a title game.

My complaint isn't with the blowout.  My complaint is with the competitive imbalance across the board.  The championship game merely highlights that problem.   The playoff has the same half dozen teams vying for 4 spots and the rest of the college football world is just hoping to sneak one team in the final 4.

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I'd rather go with discretion than change the rule - the ramifications of linemen legally blocking DOWNfield could be exploited... I imagine RPOs would be even more effective, you could start picking off LBs so that they can't get to their coverage assignments.  Dangerous to balance...

In any case, Kelce was waaay downfield on that penalty - a definite gaffe for a veteran player. 

Which specific play are you referring to? Often times, the OL has no idea if the result of these RPOs is going to be a run or pass. The onus is usually on Hurts to get the ball out quickly to avoid the flag.

8 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

My Big 5 fandom is a bit complicated but in the end I am a Nova fan first these days.  I'm from the western suburbs and my mom liked them plus i was in ACC territory when the Big East hit and it was a big deal down there in the early 80s as those two conferences battled.  I had to go for the Philly entry in the Big East.

However, when I was in elementary school we lived in Kennett Square and my dad was the high school guidance counselor. He worked with Bobby Morse and I remember watching him in high school a couple of times.. I loved the Quakers back in that period, especially the 70-71 team (don't bring up that terrible final game and I won't either). Still like them. Went to the Palestra many times. Played there once. Love that place. 

Just like you, I grew up watching those double headers on tv and went to several as well.  Those were great times.  Was it channel 29?  Or 17 or 48?  Can't recall.

I think it was 17. Flyers were on 29. I have a classic Big 5 game on DVD that I watch every year on the anniversary of the date it was played and I think I can hear Al Metzer's voice in my head saying "PHL 17" .

I never saw Morse play in person. Saw Hankinson (and Littlepage) a couple of times.