Anyone else feel like we're going to win fairly easily? I could be dead wrong, but in my gut I just feel a 27-17 type of game.

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

Anyone else feel like we're going to win fairly easily? I could be dead wrong, but in my gut I just feel a 27-17 type of game.

I’m trying not to let myself go there but yeah, that wouldn’t surprise me at all. 

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Anyone else feel like we're going to win fairly easily? I could be dead wrong, but in my gut I just feel a 27-17 type of game.

Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure Niners fans feel like they’re going to win easily too.

 

7 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Anyone else feel like we're going to win fairly easily? I could be dead wrong, but in my gut I just feel a 27-17 type of game.

You should watch the SF-LV game highlights... a lot there in terms of a QB with some mobility vs the 9er defense.

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

You should watch the SF-LV game highlights... a lot there in terms of QB with some mobility vs the 9er defense.

And the Atlanta game and the KC game.

10 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Anyone else feel like we're going to win fairly easily? I could be dead wrong, but in my gut I just feel a 27-17 type of game.

After watching their offense struggle to scrape together 13 points last week I’m more optimistic. I feel like it will be a comfortable 10-13 point difference. 

I wouldn’t bother looking at the past San Fran games earlier in the season. They had something like 8 or 9 defensive starters not playing in the Falcons game. They had a lot of injuries and are now at their healthiest, and hottest. Completely different team.

First play of the game. 3 WR set with Watkins out there. Flea flicker, a tribute to Andy for a 67 yard TD. 

45 minutes ago, downundermike said:

No, it’s not.  You don’t let a dangerous team hang around while you set them up for the second half.  You jump on them early and often, take away their running game and force Purdy to throw.   You also negate their pass rush by having a lead and dictating to their defense, instead of being one dimensional having to pass yourself.

Yeah, it’s basically our entire philosophy week in and week out. Get out to a lead by passing, then run to eat clock and let the pass rush eat. 

46 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Eagles better wrap up tomorrow. Missed tackles have been a problem at times for the Eagles this season, it would kill them tomorrow.

I think we went from bottom of league early in the season to middling in that regard - definitely an important factor especially against this opponent but the team has improved.

Finally brought myself to re-watch the highlights from last year’s game. Different players obviously but the Niners run scheme against us was quite something. Shanahan gets a lot of flak for his game day decision making but his running scheme is insane. Took Gannon for a ride in a manner that others didn’t really replicate last year (they just took him for a ride via the passing game instead).

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah, it’s basically our entire philosophy week in and week out. Get out to a lead by passing, then run to eat clock and let the pass rush eat. 

In an ideal scenario that is a great plan. I have a feeling that things may go sideways and create the ned for major adjustments, hence the need to be patient and stick with the game plan. If Hurts is throwing 40 times or running 15-20 times, the Eagles are in trouble.

 

I think the big key early will be 3rd down conversions. The Eagles can not be allowing 3rd and 3's. They need to keep the Niners in 3rd and 8's.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I wouldn’t bother looking at the past San Fran games earlier in the season. They had something like 8 or 9 defensive starters not playing in the Falcons game. They had a lot of injuries and are now at their healthiest, and hottest. Completely different team.

I see 7 of 11 defensive starters playing in the Falcons game. Bosa and Armstead were out (1 great and 1 good player) as well as Al-Shaair and Kinlaw. (2 nobodies)

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202210160atl.htm#all_vis_snap_counts

 

The 49ers had all 11 starters when Jarrett Stidham and Vegas abused them for 34.

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PHI 21

SF 20

 

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8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah, it’s basically our entire philosophy week in and week out. Get out to a lead by passing, then run to eat clock and let the pass rush eat. 

I don't think we come out slinging it tomorrow.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The one thing that concerns me is Sirianni/this coaching staff in big games. A lot of this is due to just not seeing them in big games and how they perform, but like I have said before, Sirianni seems like he can get rattled and do weird things. In games like these, coaching decisions have huge affects. You can be a great regular season coach, even coach of the year, but fall apart when it matters. On the plus side, see Kyle Shanahan. 

This is an interesting take. The challenge I’m having with it is I’m not sure I see any examples of where Sirianni has gotten rattled. Can you help me understand when some of those instances have been?

Just now, mattwill said:

This is an interesting take. The challenge I’m having with it is I’m not sure I see any examples of where Sirianni has gotten rattled. Can you help me understand when some of those instances have been?

Not calling a TO and letting Minshew waste a down by clocking it late in the DAL game.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Two things the national pundits are getting wrong are the Eagles schedule and the Eagles rush D.  The Eagles don't have a great rush D but the damage came pre Suh/Joseph and even more so in those couple games where Davis was also out.  As for the schedule, the Eagles schedule was pretty mediocre but the 49ers was far easier.

I agree with everything you have said about the rush defense. However it goes even further if you look at the Giants game last Saturday, the Eagles rush defense gave up on the 20 yards in the first half on seven carries that was 2.9 yards per carry. The second half there were 98 yards and all of that burned clock. The Eagles were perfectly happy to let the Giants run and burn the clock up that was actually in their favor so having them in the Giants run was not a problem. Oh. Further when you drill down into the 98 yards that they got in the second half 39 of them came from buy one run by , Barclay 24 came from scrambles in passing plays by Jones, and 18 yards came in the last four plays of the game. The last Giants drive where they were just killing time so in what it really mattered through the Eagles run the even in the second half was was fine in terms of yards per carry . 

25 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

First play of the game. 3 WR set with Watkins out there. Flea flicker, a tribute to Andy for a 67 yard TD. 

No more tributes against the 49ers please 

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

This is an interesting take. The challenge I’m having with it is I’m not sure I see any examples of where Sirianni has gotten rattled. Can you help me understand when some of those instances have been?

Colts and the Frank Reich game. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No more tributes against the 49ers please 

Colts and the Frank Reich game. 

The Colts game for sure. That was some emotional nonsense. 

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

This is an interesting take. The challenge I’m having with it is I’m not sure I see any examples of where Sirianni has gotten rattled. Can you help me understand when some of those instances have been?

No, he seems solid in this regard, the 2 minute drill is effective, the RZ playcalling doesn’t have many head scratchers, time management over is good. While Shanny is patently conservative - sometimes Nick is a bit overaggressive for my taste (going for it on 4th and 5+), but this is likely an analytics approach I haven’t caught up with.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree with everything you have said about the rush defense. However it goes even further if you look at the Giants game last Saturday, the Eagles rush defense gave up on the 20 yards in the first half on seven carries that was 2.9 yards per carry. The second half there were 98 yards and all of that burned clock. The Eagles were perfectly happy to let the Giants run and burn the clock up that was actually in their favor so having them in the Giants run was not a problem. Oh. Further when you drill down into the 98 yards that they got in the second half 39 of them came from buy one run by , Barclay 24 came from scrambles in passing plays by Jones, and 18 yards came in the last four plays of the game. The last Giants drive where they were just killing time so in what it really mattered through the Eagles run the even in the second half was was fine in terms of yards per carry . 

Agreed.  The rush D is not a major weakness.  Perhaps the Niners are so good they can exploit it anyway but I don't think they gash the Eagles on the ground.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Agreed.  The rush D is not a major weakness.  Perhaps the Niners are so good they can exploit it anyway but I don't think they gash the Eagles on the ground.

If they can’t gash the Eagles on the ground, not sure how they expect to score the requisite amount of points then. Seems to me that they are coming in here expecting to be able to move the ball on the ground and then run action based off of that. 

30 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

I see 7 of 11 defensive starters playing in the Falcons game. Bosa and Armstead were out (1 great and 1 good player) as well as Al-Shaair and Kinlaw. (2 nobodies)

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202210160atl.htm#all_vis_snap_counts

 

The 49ers had all 11 starters when Jarrett Stidham and Vegas abused them for 34.

Jimmie Ward was out. Al-Shaiir was on IR at the time but is now back. Moseley also out but he’s still on IR. 

The Raiders game is a better game to look at it since it was at the end of the regular season, although that seems to be an outlier game and not the norm. We’ve had them too against the Colts/Commanders.