1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

On their podcast, they said they thought they would keep either Hargrave or CJGJ but there's a greater chance they lose both than keep both.  

I heard that too, that was a few days ago. This is what he wrote today. 

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Look for Hargrave, Gardner-Johnson, James Bradberry and Isaac Seumalo to all sign deals that put them at or near the top of their positions and give the Eagles a favorable spot for the compensatory pick formula.

If the Eagles can’t re-sign the players who helped lead them to the best record in the NFC last season, it stands to reason they’re unlikely to be in a position to sign high-dollar free agents from elsewhere. But their offseason won’t include only draft picks. They can be opportunistic with low-cost deals or lingering bargains in the second wave of free agency. One thing to watch is whether they target players who are released elsewhere, and thus won’t factor into the compensatory pick formula.

 

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

 

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Eagles going DL(again) at pick 10 and taking Ringo later is my nightmare.

Ringo won’t last after his 40 anyway I bet he smokes it

Letting go CJG go is a mistake not only because of talent but leadership. 

100% correct 

7 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

If porter is 99 percentile for wingspan than what is the K states kids wing span percentile that is 2 inches more 😳

I think CGJ and Hargrave's status here will also depend on what they do with Edwards. I think a lot of the reporters are assuming they lock Edwards up, thus have less money for Hargrave or CGJ. But I'm not so sure the Eagles are going to rush to re-sign Edwards. Nor would I. He had a big year statistically, but I'm still not a fan of him in coverage. I think you can find LBs that can give you most of what he does elsewhere.

No way they letting CJ walk don’t buy it at all

OK, who are the locks to go in the top 10?

I have 4 right now. Stroud, Young, Levis, Anderson,

 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

I think CGJ and Hargrave's status here will also depend on what they do with Edwards. I think a lot of the reporters are assuming they lock Edwards up, thus have less money for Hargrave or CGJ. But I'm not so sure the Eagles are going to rush to re-sign Edwards. Nor would I. He had a big year statistically, but I'm still not a fan of him in coverage. I think you can find LBs that can give you most of what he does elsewhere.

Someone is going to overpay for Edwards.  Jordan Hicks signed a 4-year $36 million contract after playing 4 yeras in Philly.  Edwards has played 4 years here as well.  TJ Edwards has 30 more tackles over the last 2 years (289) than Hicks had his entire career here (254).  They both had 5 sacks but Edwards only had 2 INT to Hicks 7.  

Hicks also couldnt stay healthy and he still got $36 million. 

Ewards is going to get paid.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Someone is going to overpay for Edwards.  Jordan Hicks signed a 4-year $36 million contract after playing 4 yeras in Philly.  Edwards has played 4 years here as well.  TJ Edwards has 30 more tackles over the last 2 years (289) than Hicks had his entire career here (254).  They both had 5 sacks but Edwards only had 2 INT to Hicks 7.  

Hicks also couldnt stay healthy and he still got $36 million. 

Ewards is going to get paid.

I wouldn't pay Edwards.

LBs like him are a dime a dozen.

I like his work ethic and his Instincts though he apparently left those at home during the super bowl but some one will pay him, can't imagine it would be the eagles, they don't value LB and it's not like he's an all pro so...

20 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

No way they letting CJ walk don’t buy it at all

Agreed.  He's the right age to be a force for years.

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Are you listening, Howie? 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I heard that too, that was a few days ago. This is what he wrote today. 

 

Hmmm...that could mean that he expects (if they leave) to sign those deals.  It certainly seems like they are not close to any deal.  

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Dang $4 mill per year...not bad Giants

31 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK, who are the locks to go in the top 10?

I have 4 right now. Stroud, Young, Levis, Anderson,

 

I would add Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Peter Skoronski, and Devin Witherspoon.  Pretty sure there will be at least one OL and one CB

 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Are you listening, Howie? 

How would you feel if Howie got a cheaper extension for Hurts than what the Giants sign Jones to?

30 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK, who are the locks to go in the top 10?

I have 4 right now. Stroud, Young, Levis, Anderson,

 

Richardson seems to have cemented himself. Murphy, Wilson, Skoronski, Carter*

Witherspoon, Gonzales, Paris, Van Ness borderline

 

Losing CJGJ, Seumalo, Bradberry AND Hargrave would likely give us 2 3rds and 2 4ths + completely free up our cap for 2024 and beyond. It would suck for 2023, but will make us more competitive in the 2024-2026 window. Seumalo/Bradberry/Hargrave are too old for us to invest in. CJGJ or bust.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Well that's different than the other reports saying Jones is asking for too much

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Hmmm...that could mean that he expects (if they leave) to sign those deals.  It certainly seems like they are not close to any deal.  

A lot of his reasoning seems to be based around Howies comments about not being able to make a reasonable offer to some higher priced guys and how they plan to receive high comp picks. I think we could still re-sign someone like Hargrave or CJGJ but it's going to take either them taking a discount or not having a strong market that brings their expectations down. 

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Well that's different than the other reports saying Jones is asking for too much

Because a lot of people jumped the gun. Of course Jones asked for too much at first, that's how negotiations work. 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Losing CJGJ, Seumalo, Bradberry AND Hargrave would likely give us 2 3rds and 2 4ths + completely free up our cap for 2024 and beyond. It would suck for 2023, but will make us more competitive in the 2024-2026 window. Seumalo/Bradberry/Hargrave are too old for us to invest in. CJGJ or bust.

I think people overrate the compensatory picks. They're at the bottom of each round and there's no guarantee you hit on those picks. And even if you did "hit" on those picks, hitting on 3rd and 4th rounders typically means quality rotational players. Not all pros. I'm fine with them letting several guys go, but I'm telling you letting Hargrave go would be a major mistake. And will have a trickle down effect on the pass rush.

And in no way should they accept a total fall from grace in 2023 to set up the future. There needs to be a balance. Windows can close quickly. They need to do everything they can to win in 2023 while also keeping the door open for the future.

Howie needs to be careful not to overcorrect from 2018 and let everyone go. Keep some, and let some go. Balance. This organization's biggest flaw with personnel has been overcorrections.

Hurts better get that contract soon because if Jones gets 40, Hurts is worth 60.