27 minutes ago, paco said:

<WIP>Jones was like a first round pick in the second round</WIP>

With a HUGE injury history question mark.  Jones and Wentz reacted to their respective injuries in remarkably similar ways.  Sweat did the opposite.

28 minutes ago, paco said:

<WIP>Jones was like a first round pick in the second round</WIP>

And we won the Super Bowl that year! 

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree there are quite a few, but the CBs are better BPAs in Round 1 than the Edges are.  

I like day 2 DE/edge like FAU, Adebawore, Foskey, Hall

Just now, mattwill said:

With a HUGE injury history question mark.  Jones and Wentz reacted to their respective injuries in remarkably similar ways.  Sweat did the opposite.

He was just making a joke. 

16 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I don’t think he missed that part at all.  That part makes the timing of biting the bullet and rebuilding the Defense with youth all the more timely.  It is a period where the learning mistakes of youth/rookies has a much more forgiving down side. The rest of the NFC isn’t likely to suck arse for very long.  The Eagles sucked arse in 2020/21 and went to the Super Bowl in 2022/23.

Take the hits when there isn’t anyone there to make you pay handsomely for those hits.

JMO

He called the 2023 season as a whole, "a wash." You're responding to comments that you aren't grasping the context of.

2 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Excited for Graham coming back. If I'm Howie, I'm still looking at CB/Edge in rounds 1/2

Absolutely. Still want to see a CB and EDGE out of 1st 3 picks. Other 1 can be whatever.

 

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

 

Wonder if Howie used that for some cap space considering Graham’s dead money. Is this an extension?

20 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Pass rush is set for 2023

Graham

Sweat

Barnett

Reddick

Jackson

Robinson

 

I really like Williams and Davis at DT, but we need at least 1 more high volume 3-T to make it a reliable rotation. I still hope we can bring Hargrave back, or maybe Cox on a team friendly deal and draft a guy.

Thats my #1 concern this offseason, more than whatever happens in the secondary. If our Dline isn’t right, then the rest won’t matter

Don’t forget Johnson and Johnson.

If we're going 3-4 we obviously have Davis in the middle but who you putting next to him from the draft?  Here is WalterFootballs top 5 3-4 edge rushers FWIW

Jalen Carter
Tyree Wilson 
Bresee
Zacch Pickens
Gervon Dexter

2 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

To further the point, why break the bank on D in general?  You can't stop top QBs when it counts anyway.  Just go young and cheap on D while maintaining an unstoppable O.  The KC model.

@TEW has mentioned this before.  One may argue it's a flawed, nihilistic approach...but if great offenses can't be stopped, then build a great offense, go cheap on D, and build an opportunistic D.

If they can't stop a great QB when it counts (and there's almost no way our D will be able to do that next year), then they might as well be able to take the ball away in a huge spot.  (See our SB championship).

That's as much schematic, if not more so, than personnel.  Amazing offense and a high turnover defense.  I'm less and less into the "eliminate the big play" philosophy.  It's certain death by a 1,000 paper cuts and it keeps our elite offense off the field.  Hit the QB, intercept the football, or get our offense back on the field after a quick score.

 

I'm not saying I 100% buy into this, but in the decisive moments against great QB's this year and last, it felt like it would be an improvement.

44 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is one alternative approach, and probably the best approach, but there are other alternatives that are viable.  There is risk associated with the keep Hurts strategy and there is risk associated with the trade Hurts strategy.  There is no slam dunk strategy available.

 

There is a slam dunk strategy, and it's the sign your 24 year old All Pro MVP runner up QB who just had an all time great Super Bowl performance to a new deal.

What are you smoking?

14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Karlaftis instead of Jordan Davis?

He went 30th. It would have been a massive reach to take him at 15. I did like Karflatis if we trade down.

24 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Pass rush is set for 2023

Graham

Sweat

Barnett

Reddick

Jackson

Robinson

 

I really like Williams and Davis at DT, but we need at least 1 more high volume 3-T to make it a reliable rotation. I still hope we can bring Hargrave back, or maybe Cox on a team friendly deal and draft a guy.

Thats my #1 concern this offseason, more than whatever happens in the secondary. If our Dline isn’t right, then the rest won’t matter

Karl Brooks would be a solid pick in the 3rd or 4th (4th obviously only if we can pick up some picks in rounds 4-6)

15 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Tuipulotu was playing around 35 or 40 percent of the snaps before he was hurt. So they have three guys. My guess is that if a DT they love falls in their lap they will draft him, but if not i could see them bringing in a cheap vet. I don’t see them bringing Hargrave back. He is going to get paid in free agency, and that comp pick makes losing him a bit more palatable. 

Noah Ellis?

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He was just making a joke. 

Sometimes it's like you people don't get me

17 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

 

"2023 is a wash”

Im not giving you my goals, you are having enough trouble comprehending my simple point that 2023 is NOT a wash. I’ll let you chew on that for a bit until it resonates.

You must have a different meaning of "wash.”  A "wash” in sports is a tie. In betting it is a "push”.  His use of "wash” is a season of modest expectations.  You appear to be thinking "wash” is the same as "wash out.”

Being a season of modest expectations on Defense doesn’t affect the expectations on Offense.  And the expectations for the team are the combination of the two.

munch munch munch

1 minute ago, uncphillyfan said:

Noah Ellis?

Mazi?

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

How many void years?

No ADDITIONAL void years.  Same deal as Graham.

23 minutes ago, mattwill said:

So here’s a question for everyone.  If Fletcher Cox could be signed for 1 year and UP TO $6M, would you do it?

Sure but I don't think he would agree to it. 

35 minutes ago, paco said:

<WIP>Jones was like a first round pick in the second round</WIP>

hahahha....anyone who....

"Was a first round pick in the second round"

Was a second round pick and "we almost took in the first."

"Would have been a first round pick if"......not for a fully healed injury, not for stealing an XBOX, not for poor nutrition after a tornado...

Pretty much guaranteed bust.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

You must have a different meaning of "wash.”  A "wash” in sports is a tie. In betting it is a "push”.  His use of "wash” is a season of modest expectations.  You appear to be thinking "wash” is the same as "wash out.”

Being a season of modest expectations on Defense doesn’t affect the expectations on Offense.  And the expectations for the team are the combination of the two.

munch munch munch

Dude get a grip. Everyone else aside from you knew he meant 2023 was a lost cause. You’re just digging a deeper hole every time you bring it back up, twisting words with your attempt at semantics bailing you out.

56 minutes ago, mattwill said:

It would be dumb if you weren’t committed to turning the page on Defense, but turning the page is really the only option at this point.

with that said, what is the upside of the "keepSlay” strategy?

Team camaraderie. What I believe was a big factor that got us to the last two superbowls we made it to. 
 

Vet leadership to help the new young CBs adjust to the NFL. 
 

Really, the only upside I see is maybe a 4th or 5th round pick we get back that we’ll probably blow on some crappy LB. I get the cap savings aspect, but if you get rid of slay and bank on a rookie and what we have, we risk going from the best CB duo in the league to one of the worst 

12 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

He called the 2023 season as a whole, "a wash." You're responding to comments that you aren't grasping the context of.

Here are his EXACT WORDS "I agree with what Howie is presumably thinking — our offense should (hopefully) peak in 2024-2024 and we should build the defense accordingly.”

What is the context in that that I am missing?

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I'll bite.

Who should we have drafted last year? Keep in mind that last year's EDGE class was not considered good.

Karlaftis is looking like a better choice than Davis at this point.  I hated the thought of him last year because he was compared to Barnett a lot, wasn't flashy and seemed to lack burst.

Looking back, he's going to be a steady, Jared Allen type of player for them for years to come.  Kind of why I'm on the Van Ness bandwagon right now.  He isn't flashy but I just think he's going to be an incredible steady handful for OTs to handle over the course of a decade +.

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Wonder if Howie used that for some cap space considering Graham’s dead money. Is this an extension?

Yes. It won't free up any cap space though. I'm guessing his cap number will more or less stay the same it was yesterday, maybe $1Mish more.