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March 28, 20232 yr

2 hours ago, Swoop said:

Would it not have been simpler to do this on the side rather than continuing to engage with people in this thread and drag this out further? You know, what some people have asked for?

To be clear with everyone else, I'm not going to continue beat this drum here, because it isn't fair to everyone else.

Just find it a little funny, you see. Trying to be transparent.

Yall need to stop worrying about getting the last word

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March 28, 20232 yr

3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Jeffrey Simmons seems like a Jason Peters type trade Howie will definitely explore

I don't think Peters was as highly regarded around the league at the time of his trade as Simmons is.

Peters was coming off a down year where he had given up a ton of sacks, I remember some in the media saying the bills fleeced the eagles.

Reid got up and said peters was the best tackle in the league and got laughed out of the building.

So a bit different scenario where Simmons is regarded as a top DL in the league

March 28, 20232 yr

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Yall need to stop worrying about getting the last word

If I'm tagged and called out, I'm going to respond and immediately moved beyond it in here. I don't think it's unreasonable, nor do I think you needed to continue it further.

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March 28, 20232 yr

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Yall need to stop worrying about getting the last word

March 28, 20232 yr

8 minutes ago, Swoop said:

If I'm tagged and called out, I'm going to respond and immediately moved beyond it in here. I don't think it's unreasonable, nor do I think you needed to continue it further.

Disagree

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March 28, 20232 yr

10 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Jeffrey Simmons seems like a Jason Peters type trade Howie will definitely explore

The Jason Peter's trade is probably one of my worst take's on here ever. The pick we used to get him we got from Carolina in a trade down. They took Otah. My thinking at the time "Why would we get an older tackle when we could get a potential cornerstone of our line for a long time and just draft Otah in the first place".

Otah lasted only 4 seasons.

Jason Peters did some things.

Mock me.

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March 28, 20232 yr

I actually dont give a F I just think its hilarious that you all are so butthurt

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March 28, 20232 yr

10 minutes ago, Swoop said:

If I'm tagged and called out, I'm going to respond and immediately moved beyond it in here. I don't think it's unreasonable, nor do I think you needed to continue it further.

I could agree with you but then we would both be wrong

March 28, 20232 yr

13 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Yall need to stop worrying about getting the last word

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

I could agree with you but then we would both be wrong

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March 28, 20232 yr

24 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I'd say 2012, thats the last time 3 RBs went in the first

Trent Richardson 4 ( bust) Martin 31( bust) Wilson 32 ( bust).

Then 2013 zero in the 1st, Bernard first RB picked at 37 then again in 2014 no backs taken in the 1st with Bishop Sankey( bust) going at 54 followed by Jeremy hill 55 then Carlos Hyde at 57, all those guys sucked.

Since 2017 had two guys in the top 10 Fournette(4) McCaffrey (8)

Then of course last year no backs taken in the first again.

But I'd say 2012 was the beginning of the end for RBs.

2017 may be the GOAT in regards to RB drafts. At least in this era of football

1	4	Jacksonville Jaguars	Leonard Fournette	RB	LSU	SEC
	1	8	Carolina Panthers	Christian McCaffrey ^†	RB	Stanford	Pac-12
	2	41	Minnesota Vikings	Dalvin Cook ^†	RB	Florida State	ACC	from Cincinnati ^{[R2 - 6]}
	2	48	Cincinnati Bengals	Joe Mixon ^†	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from Minnesota ^{[R2 - 9]}
	3	67	New Orleans Saints	Alvin Kamara ^†	RB	Tennessee	SEC	from Chicago via San Francisco ^{[R3 - 1]}
	3	86	Kansas City Chiefs	Kareem Hunt ^†	RB	Toledo	MAC	from Miami via Minnesota ^{[R3 - 10]}
	3	89	Houston Texans	D'Onta Foreman	RB	Texas	Big 12
	3*	105	Pittsburgh Steelers	James Conner ^†	RB	Pittsburgh	ACC
	4	114	Washington Redskins	Samaje Perine	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from NY Jets ^{[R4 - 5]}
	4	119	Chicago Bears	Tarik Cohen ^†	RB	North Carolina A&T	MEAC	from Arizona ^{[R4 - 9]}
	4	121	San Francisco 49ers	Joe Williams	RB	Utah	Pac-12	from Indianapolis ^{[R4 - 10]}
	4	132	Philadelphia Eagles	Donnel Pumphrey	RB	San Diego State	MW	from Kansas City via Minnesota ^{[R4 - 16]}
	4	134	Green Bay Packers	Jamaal Williams	RB	BYU	Ind. (FBS)
	4	140	New York Giants	Wayne Gallman	RB	Clemson	ACC	Selection dropped 12 spots (see above)
	4*	143	Indianapolis Colts	Marlon Mack	RB	South Florida	The American	from San Francisco ^{[R4 - 21]}
	5	156	Atlanta Falcons	Brian Hill	RB	Wyoming	MW	from Buffalo ^{[R5 - 5]}
	5	162	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Jeremy McNichols	RB	Boise State	MW
	5*	179	Arizona Cardinals	T. J. Logan	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	5*	182	Green Bay Packers	Aaron Jones ^†	RB	UTEP	C-USA
	6	188	New York Jets	Elijah McGuire	RB	Louisiana-Lafayette	Sun Belt	from Chicago via Houston and Cleveland ^{[R6 - 3]}
	6	203	Denver Broncos	De'Angelo Henderson	RB	Coastal Carolina	Ind. (FCS)	from Tennessee ^{[R6 - 12]}
	7	238	Green Bay Packers	Devante Mays	RB	Utah State	MW	from Denver ^{[R7 - 15]}
	7	241	Tennessee Titans	Khalfani Muhammad	RB	California	Pac-12	from NY Giants ^{[R7 - 18]}
	7	242	Oakland Raiders	Elijah Hood	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	7	249	Seattle Seahawks	Chris Carson	RB	Oklahoma State	Big 12	from Atlanta ^{[R7 - 21]}
	7*	252	Cleveland Browns	Matthew Dayes	RB	NC State	ACC	from Denver ^{[R7 - 23]}

Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, Mixon, Kamar, Hunt, Aaron Jones, Donnel Pumphery, Jamal Williams, Maroln Mack, Chris Carson.... hell even Foreman's had his moments last year.

A LOT of top end talent and a LOT of more than serviceable backs too.

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March 28, 20232 yr

What did I miss?

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March 28, 20232 yr

6 minutes ago, paco said:

2017 may be the GOAT in regards to RB drafts. At least in this era of football

1 4 Jacksonville Jaguars Leonard Fournette RB LSU SEC

1 8 Carolina Panthers Christian McCaffrey ^† RB Stanford Pac-12

2 41 Minnesota Vikings Dalvin Cook ^† RB Florida State ACC from Cincinnati ^{[R2 - 6]}

2 48 Cincinnati Bengals Joe Mixon ^† RB Oklahoma Big 12 from Minnesota ^{[R2 - 9]}

3 67 New Orleans Saints Alvin Kamara ^† RB Tennessee SEC from Chicago via San Francisco ^{[R3 - 1]}

3 86 Kansas City Chiefs Kareem Hunt ^† RB Toledo MAC from Miami via Minnesota ^{[R3 - 10]}

3 89 Houston Texans D'Onta Foreman RB Texas Big 12

3* 105 Pittsburgh Steelers James Conner ^† RB Pittsburgh ACC

4 114 Washington Redskins Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma Big 12 from NY Jets ^{[R4 - 5]}

4 119 Chicago Bears Tarik Cohen ^† RB North Carolina A&T MEAC from Arizona ^{[R4 - 9]}

4 121 San Francisco 49ers Joe Williams RB Utah Pac-12 from Indianapolis ^{[R4 - 10]}

4 132 Philadelphia Eagles Donnel Pumphrey RB San Diego State MW from Kansas City via Minnesota ^{[R4 - 16]}

4 134 Green Bay Packers Jamaal Williams RB BYU Ind. (FBS)

4 140 New York Giants Wayne Gallman RB Clemson ACC Selection dropped 12 spots (see above)

4* 143 Indianapolis Colts Marlon Mack RB South Florida The American from San Francisco ^{[R4 - 21]}

5 156 Atlanta Falcons Brian Hill RB Wyoming MW from Buffalo ^{[R5 - 5]}

5 162 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jeremy McNichols RB Boise State MW

5* 179 Arizona Cardinals T. J. Logan RB North Carolina ACC

5* 182 Green Bay Packers Aaron Jones ^† RB UTEP C-USA

6 188 New York Jets Elijah McGuire RB Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt from Chicago via Houston and Cleveland ^{[R6 - 3]}

6 203 Denver Broncos De'Angelo Henderson RB Coastal Carolina Ind. (FCS) from Tennessee ^{[R6 - 12]}

7 238 Green Bay Packers Devante Mays RB Utah State MW from Denver ^{[R7 - 15]}

7 241 Tennessee Titans Khalfani Muhammad RB California Pac-12 from NY Giants ^{[R7 - 18]}

7 242 Oakland Raiders Elijah Hood RB North Carolina ACC

7 249 Seattle Seahawks Chris Carson RB Oklahoma State Big 12 from Atlanta ^{[R7 - 21]}

7* 252 Cleveland Browns Matthew Dayes RB NC State ACC from Denver ^{[R7 - 23]}

Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, Mixon, Kamar, Hunt, Aaron Jones, Donnel Pumphery, Jamal Williams, Maroln Mack,

A LOT of top end talent and a LOT of more than serviceable backs too.

1	4	Jacksonville Jaguars	Leonard Fournette	RB	LSU	SEC
	1	8	Carolina Panthers	Christian McCaffrey ^†	RB	Stanford	Pac-12
	2	41	Minnesota Vikings	Dalvin Cook ^†	RB	Florida State	ACC	from Cincinnati ^{[R2 - 6]}
	2	48	Cincinnati Bengals	Joe Mixon ^†	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from Minnesota ^{[R2 - 9]}
	3	67	New Orleans Saints	Alvin Kamara ^†	RB	Tennessee	SEC	from Chicago via San Francisco ^{[R3 - 1]}
	3	86	Kansas City Chiefs	Kareem Hunt ^†	RB	Toledo	MAC	from Miami via Minnesota ^{[R3 - 10]}
	3	89	Houston Texans	D'Onta Foreman	RB	Texas	Big 12
	3*	105	Pittsburgh Steelers	James Conner ^†	RB	Pittsburgh	ACC
	4	114	Washington Redskins	Samaje Perine	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from NY Jets ^{[R4 - 5]}
	4	119	Chicago Bears	Tarik Cohen ^†	RB	North Carolina A&T	MEAC	from Arizona ^{[R4 - 9]}
	4	121	San Francisco 49ers	Joe Williams	RB	Utah	Pac-12	from Indianapolis ^{[R4 - 10]}
	4	132	Philadelphia Eagles	Donnel Pumphrey	RB	San Diego State	MW	from Kansas City via Minnesota ^{[R4 - 16]}
	4	134	Green Bay Packers	Jamaal Williams	RB	BYU	Ind. (FBS)
	4	140	New York Giants	Wayne Gallman	RB	Clemson	ACC	Selection dropped 12 spots (see above)
	4*	143	Indianapolis Colts	Marlon Mack	RB	South Florida	The American	from San Francisco ^{[R4 - 21]}
	5	156	Atlanta Falcons	Brian Hill	RB	Wyoming	MW	from Buffalo ^{[R5 - 5]}
	5	162	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Jeremy McNichols	RB	Boise State	MW
	5*	179	Arizona Cardinals	T. J. Logan	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	5*	182	Green Bay Packers	Aaron Jones ^†	RB	UTEP	C-USA
	6	188	New York Jets	Elijah McGuire	RB	Louisiana-Lafayette	Sun Belt	from Chicago via Houston and Cleveland ^{[R6 - 3]}
	6	203	Denver Broncos	De'Angelo Henderson	RB	Coastal Carolina	Ind. (FCS)	from Tennessee ^{[R6 - 12]}
	7	238	Green Bay Packers	Devante Mays	RB	Utah State	MW	from Denver ^{[R7 - 15]}
	7	241	Tennessee Titans	Khalfani Muhammad	RB	California	Pac-12	from NY Giants ^{[R7 - 18]}
	7	242	Oakland Raiders	Elijah Hood	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	7	249	Seattle Seahawks	Chris Carson	RB	Oklahoma State	Big 12	from Atlanta ^{[R7 - 21]}
	7*	252	Cleveland Browns	Matthew Dayes	RB	NC State	ACC	from Denver ^{[R7 - 23]}

......And then there's #132

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March 28, 20232 yr

I'm thinking about sharing a recipe in WU. @Swoop

March 28, 20232 yr

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

......And then there's #132

I listed him.

:whistle:

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March 28, 20232 yr

19 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Barkley too

Yup he went 2nd overall in 2018 which I was mistaken was the last time 3 backs went in the 1st round with Penny and Sony Michael (32) going in the first.

Still though 2012-2022 hasn't had more than 2 backs in the 1st and 3 drafts between that time with zero backs taken in the First.

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March 28, 20232 yr

10 minutes ago, paco said:

2017 may be the GOAT in regards to RB drafts. At least in this era of football

1 4 Jacksonville Jaguars Leonard Fournette RB LSU SEC

1 8 Carolina Panthers Christian McCaffrey ^† RB Stanford Pac-12

2 41 Minnesota Vikings Dalvin Cook ^† RB Florida State ACC from Cincinnati ^{[R2 - 6]}

2 48 Cincinnati Bengals Joe Mixon ^† RB Oklahoma Big 12 from Minnesota ^{[R2 - 9]}

3 67 New Orleans Saints Alvin Kamara ^† RB Tennessee SEC from Chicago via San Francisco ^{[R3 - 1]}

3 86 Kansas City Chiefs Kareem Hunt ^† RB Toledo MAC from Miami via Minnesota ^{[R3 - 10]}

3 89 Houston Texans D'Onta Foreman RB Texas Big 12

3* 105 Pittsburgh Steelers James Conner ^† RB Pittsburgh ACC

4 114 Washington Redskins Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma Big 12 from NY Jets ^{[R4 - 5]}

4 119 Chicago Bears Tarik Cohen ^† RB North Carolina A&T MEAC from Arizona ^{[R4 - 9]}

4 121 San Francisco 49ers Joe Williams RB Utah Pac-12 from Indianapolis ^{[R4 - 10]}

4 132 Philadelphia Eagles Donnel Pumphrey RB San Diego State MW from Kansas City via Minnesota ^{[R4 - 16]}

4 134 Green Bay Packers Jamaal Williams RB BYU Ind. (FBS)

4 140 New York Giants Wayne Gallman RB Clemson ACC Selection dropped 12 spots (see above)

4* 143 Indianapolis Colts Marlon Mack RB South Florida The American from San Francisco ^{[R4 - 21]}

5 156 Atlanta Falcons Brian Hill RB Wyoming MW from Buffalo ^{[R5 - 5]}

5 162 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jeremy McNichols RB Boise State MW

5* 179 Arizona Cardinals T. J. Logan RB North Carolina ACC

5* 182 Green Bay Packers Aaron Jones ^† RB UTEP C-USA

6 188 New York Jets Elijah McGuire RB Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt from Chicago via Houston and Cleveland ^{[R6 - 3]}

6 203 Denver Broncos De'Angelo Henderson RB Coastal Carolina Ind. (FCS) from Tennessee ^{[R6 - 12]}

7 238 Green Bay Packers Devante Mays RB Utah State MW from Denver ^{[R7 - 15]}

7 241 Tennessee Titans Khalfani Muhammad RB California Pac-12 from NY Giants ^{[R7 - 18]}

7 242 Oakland Raiders Elijah Hood RB North Carolina ACC

7 249 Seattle Seahawks Chris Carson RB Oklahoma State Big 12 from Atlanta ^{[R7 - 21]}

7* 252 Cleveland Browns Matthew Dayes RB NC State ACC from Denver ^{[R7 - 23]}

Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, Mixon, Kamar, Hunt, Aaron Jones, Donnel Pumphery, Jamal Williams, Maroln Mack, Chris Carson.... hell even Foreman's had his moments last year.

A LOT of top end talent and a LOT of more than serviceable backs too.

1	4	Jacksonville Jaguars	Leonard Fournette	RB	LSU	SEC
	1	8	Carolina Panthers	Christian McCaffrey ^†	RB	Stanford	Pac-12
	2	41	Minnesota Vikings	Dalvin Cook ^†	RB	Florida State	ACC	from Cincinnati ^{[R2 - 6]}
	2	48	Cincinnati Bengals	Joe Mixon ^†	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from Minnesota ^{[R2 - 9]}
	3	67	New Orleans Saints	Alvin Kamara ^†	RB	Tennessee	SEC	from Chicago via San Francisco ^{[R3 - 1]}
	3	86	Kansas City Chiefs	Kareem Hunt ^†	RB	Toledo	MAC	from Miami via Minnesota ^{[R3 - 10]}
	3	89	Houston Texans	D'Onta Foreman	RB	Texas	Big 12
	3*	105	Pittsburgh Steelers	James Conner ^†	RB	Pittsburgh	ACC
	4	114	Washington Redskins	Samaje Perine	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from NY Jets ^{[R4 - 5]}
	4	119	Chicago Bears	Tarik Cohen ^†	RB	North Carolina A&T	MEAC	from Arizona ^{[R4 - 9]}
	4	121	San Francisco 49ers	Joe Williams	RB	Utah	Pac-12	from Indianapolis ^{[R4 - 10]}
	4	132	Philadelphia Eagles	Donnel Pumphrey	RB	San Diego State	MW	from Kansas City via Minnesota ^{[R4 - 16]}
	4	134	Green Bay Packers	Jamaal Williams	RB	BYU	Ind. (FBS)
	4	140	New York Giants	Wayne Gallman	RB	Clemson	ACC	Selection dropped 12 spots (see above)
	4*	143	Indianapolis Colts	Marlon Mack	RB	South Florida	The American	from San Francisco ^{[R4 - 21]}
	5	156	Atlanta Falcons	Brian Hill	RB	Wyoming	MW	from Buffalo ^{[R5 - 5]}
	5	162	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Jeremy McNichols	RB	Boise State	MW
	5*	179	Arizona Cardinals	T. J. Logan	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	5*	182	Green Bay Packers	Aaron Jones ^†	RB	UTEP	C-USA
	6	188	New York Jets	Elijah McGuire	RB	Louisiana-Lafayette	Sun Belt	from Chicago via Houston and Cleveland ^{[R6 - 3]}
	6	203	Denver Broncos	De'Angelo Henderson	RB	Coastal Carolina	Ind. (FCS)	from Tennessee ^{[R6 - 12]}
	7	238	Green Bay Packers	Devante Mays	RB	Utah State	MW	from Denver ^{[R7 - 15]}
	7	241	Tennessee Titans	Khalfani Muhammad	RB	California	Pac-12	from NY Giants ^{[R7 - 18]}
	7	242	Oakland Raiders	Elijah Hood	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	7	249	Seattle Seahawks	Chris Carson	RB	Oklahoma State	Big 12	from Atlanta ^{[R7 - 21]}
	7*	252	Cleveland Browns	Matthew Dayes	RB	NC State	ACC	from Denver ^{[R7 - 23]}

And we got Pomphrey. Really wanted Marlon Mack in that draft as it got to the 3rd and 4th round. He didn't end up being great but he was much better than Pumphrey.

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March 28, 20232 yr

14 minutes ago, paco said:

2017 may be the GOAT in regards to RB drafts. At least in this era of football

1 4 Jacksonville Jaguars Leonard Fournette RB LSU SEC

1 8 Carolina Panthers Christian McCaffrey ^† RB Stanford Pac-12

2 41 Minnesota Vikings Dalvin Cook ^† RB Florida State ACC from Cincinnati ^{[R2 - 6]}

2 48 Cincinnati Bengals Joe Mixon ^† RB Oklahoma Big 12 from Minnesota ^{[R2 - 9]}

3 67 New Orleans Saints Alvin Kamara ^† RB Tennessee SEC from Chicago via San Francisco ^{[R3 - 1]}

3 86 Kansas City Chiefs Kareem Hunt ^† RB Toledo MAC from Miami via Minnesota ^{[R3 - 10]}

3 89 Houston Texans D'Onta Foreman RB Texas Big 12

3* 105 Pittsburgh Steelers James Conner ^† RB Pittsburgh ACC

4 114 Washington Redskins Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma Big 12 from NY Jets ^{[R4 - 5]}

4 119 Chicago Bears Tarik Cohen ^† RB North Carolina A&T MEAC from Arizona ^{[R4 - 9]}

4 121 San Francisco 49ers Joe Williams RB Utah Pac-12 from Indianapolis ^{[R4 - 10]}

4 132 Philadelphia Eagles Donnel Pumphrey RB San Diego State MW from Kansas City via Minnesota ^{[R4 - 16]}

4 134 Green Bay Packers Jamaal Williams RB BYU Ind. (FBS)

4 140 New York Giants Wayne Gallman RB Clemson ACC Selection dropped 12 spots (see above)

4* 143 Indianapolis Colts Marlon Mack RB South Florida The American from San Francisco ^{[R4 - 21]}

5 156 Atlanta Falcons Brian Hill RB Wyoming MW from Buffalo ^{[R5 - 5]}

5 162 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jeremy McNichols RB Boise State MW

5* 179 Arizona Cardinals T. J. Logan RB North Carolina ACC

5* 182 Green Bay Packers Aaron Jones ^† RB UTEP C-USA

6 188 New York Jets Elijah McGuire RB Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt from Chicago via Houston and Cleveland ^{[R6 - 3]}

6 203 Denver Broncos De'Angelo Henderson RB Coastal Carolina Ind. (FCS) from Tennessee ^{[R6 - 12]}

7 238 Green Bay Packers Devante Mays RB Utah State MW from Denver ^{[R7 - 15]}

7 241 Tennessee Titans Khalfani Muhammad RB California Pac-12 from NY Giants ^{[R7 - 18]}

7 242 Oakland Raiders Elijah Hood RB North Carolina ACC

7 249 Seattle Seahawks Chris Carson RB Oklahoma State Big 12 from Atlanta ^{[R7 - 21]}

7* 252 Cleveland Browns Matthew Dayes RB NC State ACC from Denver ^{[R7 - 23]}

Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, Mixon, Kamar, Hunt, Aaron Jones, Donnel Pumphery, Jamal Williams, Maroln Mack, Chris Carson.... hell even Foreman's had his moments last year.

A LOT of top end talent and a LOT of more than serviceable backs too.

1	4	Jacksonville Jaguars	Leonard Fournette	RB	LSU	SEC
	1	8	Carolina Panthers	Christian McCaffrey ^†	RB	Stanford	Pac-12
	2	41	Minnesota Vikings	Dalvin Cook ^†	RB	Florida State	ACC	from Cincinnati ^{[R2 - 6]}
	2	48	Cincinnati Bengals	Joe Mixon ^†	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from Minnesota ^{[R2 - 9]}
	3	67	New Orleans Saints	Alvin Kamara ^†	RB	Tennessee	SEC	from Chicago via San Francisco ^{[R3 - 1]}
	3	86	Kansas City Chiefs	Kareem Hunt ^†	RB	Toledo	MAC	from Miami via Minnesota ^{[R3 - 10]}
	3	89	Houston Texans	D'Onta Foreman	RB	Texas	Big 12
	3*	105	Pittsburgh Steelers	James Conner ^†	RB	Pittsburgh	ACC
	4	114	Washington Redskins	Samaje Perine	RB	Oklahoma	Big 12	from NY Jets ^{[R4 - 5]}
	4	119	Chicago Bears	Tarik Cohen ^†	RB	North Carolina A&T	MEAC	from Arizona ^{[R4 - 9]}
	4	121	San Francisco 49ers	Joe Williams	RB	Utah	Pac-12	from Indianapolis ^{[R4 - 10]}
	4	132	Philadelphia Eagles	Donnel Pumphrey	RB	San Diego State	MW	from Kansas City via Minnesota ^{[R4 - 16]}
	4	134	Green Bay Packers	Jamaal Williams	RB	BYU	Ind. (FBS)
	4	140	New York Giants	Wayne Gallman	RB	Clemson	ACC	Selection dropped 12 spots (see above)
	4*	143	Indianapolis Colts	Marlon Mack	RB	South Florida	The American	from San Francisco ^{[R4 - 21]}
	5	156	Atlanta Falcons	Brian Hill	RB	Wyoming	MW	from Buffalo ^{[R5 - 5]}
	5	162	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Jeremy McNichols	RB	Boise State	MW
	5*	179	Arizona Cardinals	T. J. Logan	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	5*	182	Green Bay Packers	Aaron Jones ^†	RB	UTEP	C-USA
	6	188	New York Jets	Elijah McGuire	RB	Louisiana-Lafayette	Sun Belt	from Chicago via Houston and Cleveland ^{[R6 - 3]}
	6	203	Denver Broncos	De'Angelo Henderson	RB	Coastal Carolina	Ind. (FCS)	from Tennessee ^{[R6 - 12]}
	7	238	Green Bay Packers	Devante Mays	RB	Utah State	MW	from Denver ^{[R7 - 15]}
	7	241	Tennessee Titans	Khalfani Muhammad	RB	California	Pac-12	from NY Giants ^{[R7 - 18]}
	7	242	Oakland Raiders	Elijah Hood	RB	North Carolina	ACC
	7	249	Seattle Seahawks	Chris Carson	RB	Oklahoma State	Big 12	from Atlanta ^{[R7 - 21]}
	7*	252	Cleveland Browns	Matthew Dayes	RB	NC State	ACC	from Denver ^{[R7 - 23]}

Yup and Howie ended up with Pumphrey😡

I remember that draft and being excited about getting a RB, there were rumors eagles wanted dalvin cook, of course they didn't get him

I liked Alvin kamara a lot, and I liked Marlon Mack later

I was big on Jamal Williams later in the draft because he was a BYU guy.

When Howie Traded up in the 4th and Williams and Mack were still both there I thought for sure he'd take one of them instead he takes a 170 pound highschool RB

Such a flop by Howie in a pretty stacked RB class to end up with Pumphrey.😡

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March 28, 20232 yr

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What did I miss?

douglas_706 got banned.

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March 28, 20232 yr

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

......And then there's #132

With Jamaal Williams being drafted 2 picks later. This seems like a recurring theme for our FO 🤔

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March 28, 20232 yr

Surely every team with the cap space will be interested in simmons.

March 28, 20232 yr

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup he went 2nd overall in 2018 which I was mistaken was the last time 3 backs went in the 1st round with Penny and Sony Michael (32) going in the first.

Still though 2012-2022 hasn't had more than 2 backs in the 1st and 3 drafts between that time with zero backs taken in the First.

Even look at the best RB's taken in the 1st round in the past 20ish years, LT, Peterson, Steven Jackson, etc. How many Super Bowls did those guys win?

I think teams have strategically moved away from having a single running back to rely on. It just doesn't make sense with the rate they get injured and how much that would hamper the running game. Modern RBs are breaking down in 6-8 years. There's not a lot of value in drafting a player in the 1st round if in the best case scenario you're only going to get 8 years max out of them. You want a 1st rounder to be a 3 contract type of player, not almost be on the tail end of their career at the end of their 1st contract.

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March 28, 20232 yr

36 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Yall need to stop worrying about getting the last word

In before the lock!

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March 28, 20232 yr

5 minutes ago, bitbased said:

With Jamaal Williams being drafted 2 picks later. This seems like a recurring theme for our FO 🤔

Yep. I was big on Gallman that draft, and while he hasn't done much he certainly would have contributed here more than Pumphrey. Aaron Jones and Chris Carson going even later is just the cherry on top of that ish sundae.

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March 28, 20232 yr

The perfect answer from a perfectly average coach.

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March 28, 20232 yr

6 minutes ago, bitbased said:

With Jamaal Williams being drafted 2 picks later. This seems like a recurring theme for our FO 🤔

Yup Jamal Williams went then marlon Mack right after.

Sydney Jones was pick 44 who would you rather have Alvin Kamara or Kareem hunt or Sydney Jones.

If Derek Barnett is in this draft and the pick is between him or Bijan Robinson who you taking?

You taking Barnett at 10 just because Teams value DE over RB?

Personally I'm not taking either at 10 I'm trading down and getting Bijan right before the cowboys can.

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