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4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I can't see why NFL wouldn't approve 0. It's like printing money for new jerseys.  They likey that

Personally, I hate it and hope they don't. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Crazy thought.  Even cheap a** Snyder has an LED screen in his stadium.

 

Why not also have the game clock displayed up there with the decimal?  It's ones and zeros, not lightbulbs.

9 hours ago, TEW said:

A better analogy would be like replacing one very good 3 point shooter with Steph Curry. Yes, Curry is a great 3 point shooter, but your marginal improvement isn’t actually that significant. And that’s the problem. If you can get 90% of what you’d get with Bijan by simply relying on our OL, Gainwell, Penny, and a mid to late round draft pick, then it just doesn’t make sense to draft Bijan at 10. You’re just not improving that much. You’re getting 10 more horsepower out of an engine that you already have, not doing an engine swap and getting 2 more cylinders.

Robinson is an excellent prospect with a very well rounded game, but he doesn’t bring us any new dimension that we don’t already have. He’s not Barry Sanders who would make our offense wildly more explosive. He’s not Marshall Faulk who would make our passing game near indefensible. He’s not even Adrian Peterson who through sheer strength and speed would overwhelm defenses.

Bijan’s strength is that he does everything at a better than average level. That’s not what we need if we are looking to take the offense to another level. We need someone who can give us traits we don’t already have that expand our playbook. Bijan doesn’t do that.

If I agreed with your valuation of the player I would agree. I don’t. Nor does the consensus grade. To say nothing of the fact that at this level 10% is significant. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Supply chain issue? :roll:.    The NFL couldn't locate 32 parts? 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I was aggressively wrong on Hurts and took blame on it, but I also take credit for being the first to identify Hurts as a pocket QB.

His usage absolutely needs to evolve.  Not so much due to the contract, but due to his evolving skill set and strengths.  Hurts is at his best as a runner when he chews up a wide open middle of the field against a defense that fears our pass attack....NOT on designed RPOs or designed runs out wide.  Also on the famous butt push plays.  Hurts is at his best as a passer when he is dealing from the pocket, not when his arm strength is exposed on the run outside the pocket without a base to throw from.

This playing style is more effective, more sustainable, and less injury prone.  The dynamic running should be targeted runs that force teams to collapse into the middle of the defense.  The other stuff really doesn't add much.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Personally, I hate it and hope they don't. 

How about 00?

Just now, Alphagrand said:

How about 00?

Only if it's on an absolute unit. Bylaw proposal would be fattest guy on the team only. 

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Supply chain issue? :roll:.    The NFL couldn't locate 32 parts? 

It’s a BS answer. I have a hard time believing they already assessed the logistics of the upgrade for all 32 stadiums 


My guess: A handful of owners raised their hands and said that they are not planning on doing any further renovations this off-season and left it at that. 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

That's why it's tough to just compare production across positions.  Yes, we can talk about ill-defined success rate at various positions in round 1, but not all production is created equally.  I think a lot of rushing yards are generic and cheap.  So a round 1 RB needs to do a LOT more than merely man the starting spot for a few years.  To me, that's practically a bust.  They need some above and beyond production.

Yup I mean, look at a guy like Zeke, drafted 4th overall, super productive and the Boys Ran him into the ground and what did it get them?

Then again that could just be cowboys being choke artists, no one is going to look back at Zeke and call him a bust but 4th pick in the draft is a pretty high pick for a guy that's not leading your team to championships like RBs of yesteryear.

Fournette went 4th as well and even won a super bowl but he wasn't carrying his team to championships before Brady came along.

I really like Bijan Robinson and I think having him for 5 controlled years would make an already really good offense freaky good and at the same time is that worth a top 10 pick In the draft.

How much better are the eagles going to be with Bijan instead of gainwell getting majority of carries?

Say they took Bijan at 10( won't ever happen) and then the 11th pick 10 years from now ends up a multiple pro bowl defender.

Then again let's say eagles take Bijan and within those 5 years with him they win a super bowl.

I wouldn't care if that 11th pick was a HOF player I'll take the championship.

Hopefully Howie makes the right choice and we don't end up with a Pumphrey and a Barnett ☹️

 

2 minutes ago, paco said:

It’s a BS answer. I have a hard time believing they already assessed the logistics of the upgrade for all 32 stadiums 


My guess: A handful of owners raised their hands and said that they are not planning on doing any further renovations this off-season and left it at that. 

I don't even understand the point of it so it a no from me, dawg.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Only if it's on an absolute unit. Bylaw proposal would be fattest guy on the team only. 

I think it should be rotated every week, by fan vote.  Worst player on the team from the previous game has to wear '0' for the next game.

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Yup I mean, look at a guy like Zeke, drafted 4th overall, super productive and the Boys Ran him into the ground and what did it get them?

Then again that could just be cowboys being choke artists, no one is going to look back at Zeke and call him a bust but 4th pick in the draft is a pretty high pick for a guy that's not leading your team to championships like RBs of yesteryear.

Fournette went 4th as well and even won a super bowl but he wasn't carrying his team to championships before Brady came along.

I really like Bijan Robinson and I think having him for 5 controlled years would make an already really good offense freaky good and at the same time is that worth a top 10 pick In the draft.

How much better are the eagles going to be with Bijan instead of gainwell getting majority of carries?

Say they took Bijan at 10( won't ever happen) and then the 11th pick 10 years from now ends up a multiple pro bowl defender.

Then again let's say eagles take Bijan and within those 5 years with him they win a super bowl.

I wouldn't care if that 11th pick was a HOF player I'll take the championship.

Hopefully Howie makes the right choice and we don't end up with a Pumphrey and a Barnett ☹️

 

Zeke is the perfect case study.  1631 / 15 / 5.1 is an incredible year for a RB.  That's above and beyond production.  He also declined from there (his rookie year).  After that, he played behind some really good OL's, put up some good numbers...but how many of those yards/tds/ypc could have been replicated by a near 0 cost rotation?  What's the gap there?  Is that gap worth the #4 pick in the draft?  Is it even worth a first?

Just now, eagle45 said:

Zeke is the perfect case study.  1631 / 15 / 5.1 is an incredible year for a RB.  That's above and beyond production.  He also declined from there (his rookie year).  After that, he played behind some really good OL's, put up some good numbers...but how many of those yards/tds/ypc could have been replicated by a near 0 cost rotation?  What's the gap there?  Is that gap worth the #4 pick in the draft?  Is it even worth a first?

Yup.

That Dallas o line with Zeke was pretty stacked and we all know how good the Eagles O line is so I can't imagine Howie saying that a top 10 RB has more value than a cheaper 3 back rotation that can generate equal or close to  equal yardage, especially with a QB who is a big part of the run game.

I think Howie's only question might be wondering if he had a better RB in the super bowl better than Sanders who didn't show up do the eagles win?

Having said that the chiefs were still selling out to shut down the run so it's still on the QB.

 

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Rich Eisen takes a crack at breaking down the coaches group photo:

 

 

per espn 

An NFL GM on Misssissippi St. CB Emmanuel Forbes: "If Forbes weighed over 190 pounds, I think we're talking about the top cornerback in the class." #NFLDraft
 

NFC scout on Maryland CB Deonte Banks: "If you were drafting on traits and the belief you can develop a cornerback...Banks is your guy. He's the fastest of the Round 1 guys, but he has really good size and really good quickness." #NFLDraft

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26 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Personally, I hate it and hope they don't. 

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28 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Zeke is the perfect case study.  1631 / 15 / 5.1 is an incredible year for a RB.  That's above and beyond production.  He also declined from there (his rookie year).  After that, he played behind some really good OL's, put up some good numbers...but how many of those yards/tds/ypc could have been replicated by a near 0 cost rotation?  What's the gap there?  Is that gap worth the #4 pick in the draft?  Is it even worth a first?

Terrible comp. Zeke was a power back who ran to contact and was given years of what 400 touches?  Nobody is talking about that. 

18 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

per espn 

An NFL GM on Misssissippi St. CB Emmanuel Forbes: "If Forbes weighed over 190 pounds, I think we're talking about the top cornerback in the class." #NFLDraft
 

NFC scout on Maryland CB Deonte Banks: "If you were drafting on traits and the belief you can develop a cornerback...Banks is your guy. He's the fastest of the Round 1 guys, but he has really good size and really good quickness." #NFLDraft

Not high praise for Banks.  That's hardly even a backhanded complement.  Basically saying he's got terrible technique, but he's fast and tall, so, yeah.  Hard pass.

Interesting on Forbes.  Someone's high on him?  He's bigger than Devonte by about 10 pounds, so he's not that small.  

These are both interesting comments, too.  Did they just off the cuff mention this or was this a 'day 2 CB prospects' question?  

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Josh Harris only needs to own the Braves to complete his Infinity Gauntlet

As much as I hate the Washington American Football Team, Magic Johnson would make a cool owner.  Imagine replacing a doofus like Snyder with Magic?

17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Josh Harris only needs to own the Braves to complete his Infinity Gauntlet

He's going to be booed whenever he's at the Sixers games but I don't even know if he goes

Speaking of jerseys when are they unveiling kelly green?

30 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

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Rich Eisen takes a crack at breaking down the coaches group photo:

 

 

I love that the 2 best coaches Reid and Bill front middle are wearing shorts, like they didn't give an eff.

Where as tool bags like Payton and McDaniels are peacocking...

Wonder why Sirianni wasn't there???

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

He's going to be booed whenever he's at the Sixers games but I don't even know if he goes

Same cheap Josh Harris thst wanted Sixer employees to take a 20% paycut during COVID and stopped because of Embiid. Not worried about them

4 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Interesting on Forbes.  Someone's high on him?  He's bigger than Devonte by about 10 pounds, so he's not that small.  

He's pretty consistently been a top 50 prospect, so I think he could be a target at 30 if the Eagles don't draft a corner at 10.

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