27 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

If he turns into a a ten year starter and multiple time pro-bowl guard he will be well worth the 10th pick.

I think Torrence is a better guard prospect. If you want a guard, trade down and take Torrence. Or take someone like Schmitz in the 2nd round.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's not really smoke. It's DJ stating the obvious based on nothing. His thought process is literally "Carter isn't visiting teams past 10, lets see who has pick #10. Eagles. Hmm they like IDL. Maybe they told him something."

It's not rocket science or even based on any inside info. It would be very anti-Howie's MO to say something like that without knowing who else is on the board, what trade options there are as well as all how all the other moving parts fall into place. DJ doesn't even know how the interview went or how they view his character either. 

Didn't mean Howie's smoke. He gives zero info one way or the other. Also I am in denial that he's on our draft board at 10.

19 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

It would say they're planning to move Jurgens to C when Kelce finally retires. 

Dillard and Seumalo are gone and Johnson is into his final few seasons.  OL depth is the key to this offense.  

I agree but at 10 I’d much prefer someone with higher upside and who’s main purpose for being drafted isn’t that of a security blanket for 2-3 seasons 

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

True but if you look at short term upside he’s probably the best RG prospect and he could definitely backup Lane for a few years. There’s no saying Lane will even retire in 2 years 

Not sure I agree he's the best RG prospect. I think Skoronski's value is in his versatility, but I could easily see guys like Torrence, Schmitz, even Jones being better OG prospects than Skoronski.

I don't think the Eagles would have issues finding quality guards elsewhere in the draft. That hasn't been a problem for them. Top 10 you want to shoot for someone you think can thrive at OT if you go OL.

The disrespect of the options to leave off Koy.

 

 

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

The disrespect of the options to leave off Koy.

 

 

Yeah that’s the guy they are disrespecting as a backup Qb in eagles history…

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah that’s the guy they are disrespecting as a backup Qb in eagles history…

Yep. Clearly it's the former Eagle who was here for two different stints and ended up on the Rams at some point. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A.J. Feeley baby

 

19 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He isn't being drafted to be a permanent backup at RG/RT.  The Eagles are in a very unique situation having the 10th pick coming off of a Super Bowl appearance.  They don't plan on drafting this high again when Lane retires in a couple of years.  If they go with an OT at at 10 it's because they feel that's the best player available that fits to their strategy of prioritizing the line that while it doesn't fill an immediate need starting (but an immediate need of backup swing RT and someone who can compete for RG) it does fill a future need.  

I don't think it would say anything one way or the other about what they think of Jurgens at RG.  It would be everything about their belief that they won't be in this position again in the next few years to draft a top prospect tackle and the inevitability of Lane and Kelce's eventual retirement.   If this is Jason's last season then Jurgens moves to center and Skoronski could move to RG until Lane is retired after the next two seasons.  If nothing else they would have what should be top end depth heading into 2023 along the offensive line which is a luxary they can afford when they are picking at 10 not because they were a bad team that earned that pick but because they own that pick through a trade from the year before.  

Again, I wouldn’t totally hate the move but just not thrilled about taking a guy at 10 mostly because of depth purposes the next 2-3 years. If Lane is planning to retire after this season then sure. I’d rather take a guy you think has a shot at a pro bowl in year 2. 

Either way, I’d be shocked if the pick at 10 isn’t a D-Lineman. 

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The disrespect of the options to leave off Koy.

 

 

The actual disrespect is leaving off Foles

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The disrespect of the options to leave off Koy.

 

 

You know the only right answer to this question and you’ll never admit it. Hater 

10 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The disrespect of the options to leave off Koy.

 

 

Can someone explain to me why this isn’t a strange question? That’s like asking who the greatest Tar Heel is of all time, or what’s the greatest peanut butter cup of all time.

You could either keep or leave the word "backup” and you still come to the same answer. Maybe I’m understanding it wrong, but the dude has been retired for 5 minutes and suddenly everyone forgets he existed.

3 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Can someone explain to me why this isn’t a strange question? That’s like asking who the greatest Tar Heel is of all time, or what’s the greatest peanut butter cup of all time.

You could either keep or leave the word "backup” and you still come to the same answer. Maybe I’m understanding it wrong, but the dude has been retired for 5 minutes and suddenly everyone forgets he existed.

Who are you talking about

4 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Can someone explain to me why this isn’t a strange question? That’s like asking who the greatest Tar Heel is of all time, or what’s the greatest peanut butter cup of all time.

You could either keep or leave the word "backup” and you still come to the same answer. Maybe I’m understanding it wrong, but the dude has been retired for 5 minutes and suddenly everyone forgets he existed.

No one really considers Brady a "backup" even though he technically started as one. That's like calling Mahomes a backup QB because he didn't start right away. 

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Who are you talking about

Brady

The spark they need

10 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Can someone explain to me why this isn’t a strange question? That’s like asking who the greatest Tar Heel is of all time, or what’s the greatest peanut butter cup of all time.

You could either keep or leave the word "backup” and you still come to the same answer. Maybe I’m understanding it wrong, but the dude has been retired for 5 minutes and suddenly everyone forgets he existed.

Even with the criteria you're trying to assign based on a single season, Kurt Warner is clearly a better answer.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No one really considers Brady a "backup" even though he technically started as one. That's like calling Mahomes a backup QB because he didn't start right away. 

Brady was a 6th round pick though who was drafted to a team with a franchise and potential(at the time) HoF QB. He was intended to be a reserve player, and was brought into his first ever playing time season as the backup. Mahomes was drafted as a not-too-distant future starter, and came into the 2018 season as #1 on the depth chart. He never excelled in backup duties before being handed the starting job. Brady should have been a (short-lived)career backup had that not happened.

 

I suppose it’s how you interpret the question:

In an alltime perspective for someone thought to be a career backup, Drew Bledsoe’s backup QB was about to win 7 super bowls.

or

In a specific season as a backup, Trent Green was prepping to start for the 1999 rams before Kurt Warner had to replace him, set all kinds of passing records and won both the Super Bowl and league MVP

or 

In a midseason effort, Nick Foles filled in for a championship run late in the season and put up alltime statistical performances to keep the ship on course 

or

in a single game effort, Tua Tagovailoa(sorry Jalen) took over in the college championship at halftime with an insurmountable deficit and brought the team all the way back

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Even with the criteria you're trying to assign based on a single season, Kurt Warner is clearly a better answer.

What I thought when I read it was "which team had the best QB sitting on the bench, unbeknownst to them”. That’s the alltime best backup QB. But for single season accolades when the player was only supposed to clipboard, Warner is about the best answer

21 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Again, I wouldn’t totally hate the move but just not thrilled about taking a guy at 10 mostly because of depth purposes the next 2-3 years. If Lane is planning to retire after this season then sure. I’d rather take a guy you think has a shot at a pro bowl in year 2. 

Either way, I’d be shocked if the pick at 10 isn’t a D-Lineman. 

 

Yeah I'd prefer another pick myself but I'm only commenting on the the suggestion that it would imply the Eagles don't think that Jurgens is going to be able to fill in well at RG this season.  I don't think if they did go OT at 10 that it would have anything to do with their thoughts on Jurgens.  

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

I like Jones better but I do like Pete better than the Ohio State guys. 

11 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

@NOTW no super weaponzzz anymore now it's top freakbeasts!

I prefer versatile freakbeasts.  

However, if we're talking about a 1/10, you really want a player who should be an all pro at their normal position, and whatever versatility is there is of secondary importance.

I tend to be enthusiastic about DII top RAS guys who were playing a different position 2 years ago, and if the Eagles were to draft them, it would be as day 3.

The Eagles could take a 1/10 and trade that pick down, over and over,  leaving 10+ day 3 picks. None of those day 3 picks is particularly valuable, and if the player doesn't work out, that's fine, most don't.

With a 1/10,  I'd want top freakbeast, and also playing great in college.  Less raw,  less of a risk.  Not always.  I like Anthony Richardson, who is uniquely rare as a freakbeast QB, 

8 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

What I thought when I read it was "which team had the best QB sitting on the bench, unbeknownst to them”. That’s the alltime best backup QB. But for single season accolades when the player was only supposed to clipboard, Warner is about the best answer

Oh, okay.  I understand.

The interesting part of that Brady-Bledsoe thing in 2000 was, along with it being Brady's rookie season, it was also Belichick and Charlie Weis' first season there as head coach and OC, respectively.  When I went back and looked I had forgotten how long Bledsoe had been the starting QB there at the time.  He was going into his 9th season as the starter in NE.

To hear Weis tell the story now, he says they knew very quickly Bledsoe was not getting that job back; he said it was an easy decision.  I'm not sure how accurate that is because it's more than 20 years ago now -- but NE started the season 0-2 and, for all we know, Brady might have looked a lot better in camp than Bledsoe did by that point.  When a new coaching staff comes in, those 8 previous years only gets you so far -- especially when the Pats stunk the prior two seasons.

16 hours ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Do you think Davis can punt as well?

Don't know but Carter did in high school.  I don't have RAS for Carter though. 

13 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Yeah I'd prefer another pick myself but I'm only commenting on the the suggestion that it would imply the Eagles don't think that Jurgens is going to be able to fill in well at RG this season.  I don't think if they did go OT at 10 that it would have anything to do with their thoughts on Jurgens.  

I think it would. Because Jurgens starting would mean you only drafted a backup OG/OT

8 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Could you just go versatile back to mom’s basement and stay off the internet?

You hate losing arguments, don't you?

Ad hominem attacks are an admission of defeat.