9 hours ago, greend said:

Severely important?  Then how did Troy get in first ballot and Dawk not since Dawk had better stats?   Was it because of Troy's hair? Were there too many Hawaiian voters? 

Because as a few have stated, he was overrated likely because of the team he played for.

He had .5 sacks, 3 interceptions, 40 tackles and 0 forced fumbles in 15 postseason games. 

In 18 postseason games dawk had 2 sacks, 4 interceptions, 70 tackles and 3 forced fumbles. 

The only difference is one won their super bowl (5 tackles, no sacks, no int, no ff) and the other didn't (2 tackles, no sacks, no int, one ff). 

There was no reason Polamalu should have made first ballot.

 

Eli manning 100% first ballot also right?

At 30? Sign me up.

He can play EDGE at his weight, or 3Tech at DT. That 10 yard split is ridiculous. 

Give me athletes who could become Pro Bowlers instead of Derek Barnett.

 

36 minutes ago, RLC said:

At 30? Sign me up.

He can play EDGE at his weight, or 3Tech at DT. That 10 yard split is ridiculous. 

Give me athletes who could become Pro Bowlers instead of Derek Barnett.

Can he play though? I honestly haven’t read anyone be complimentary of his play, only his testing. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Can he play though? I honestly haven’t read anyone be complimentary of his play, only his testing. 

Much rather White over AA

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Can he play though? I honestly haven’t read anyone be complimentary of his play, only his testing. 

Had 3rd round grades pre-testing. Combine that with A+++ testing and you get back end of RD1/RD2 grades.

Worth mentioning that this is not a great class, so it's not like there are tons of good options at 30.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

How would we feel about that?

I like skoronski. Have for a while. I think the kid becomes a really good pro bowl caliber guard. He’s got positional versatility as well however not sure he can play tackle at that type of level but if stoutland thinks he can who am i to argue. Frankly there’s a chance he’s not even there at 10. 

Not only was Hurts’ 103.4 passer rating the highest by a quarterback under 25 in a Super Bowl, it was the highest by 17 points. The previous high was Tom Brady’s 86.2 in Super Bowl XXXVI vs. the Rams in New Orleans after the 2001 season. Hurts is the youngest QB to have a completion percentage over 70 in a Super Bowl, the youngest QB to throw for 300 yards without an interception in a Super Bowl and the youngest with four total TDs in a Super Bowl.

His 87 pass attempts in the postseason are the most by an Eagles quarterback in any postseason without an interception. The previous high was Randall Cunningham’s 65 in 1992. That’s also the 7th-highest in league history. His career postseason interception ratio – one every 65 attempts – is 10th-best in NFL history among quarterbacks with at least 100 attempts.

Hurts now has nine total touchdowns in his first four career postseason games – four passing, five rushing. Only five quarterbacks in history have had more in their first four career playoff games: Patrick Mahomes (13), Kurt Warner (12), Aaron Rodgers (12), Alex Smith (11), Dan Marino (10).

Hurts’ three rushing touchdowns tied the Super Bowl record set by Hall of Famer Terrell Davis of the Broncos in their Super Bowl XXXII win over the Packers in San Diego. Only four players have more career rushing TDs in the Super Bowl than Hurts: Hall of Famers Emmitt Smith (5), John Elway (4), Franco Harris (4) and Thurman Thomas (4). 

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Not only was Hurts’ 103.4 passer rating the highest by a quarterback under 25 in a Super Bowl, it was the highest by 17 points. The previous high was Tom Brady’s 86.2 in Super Bowl XXXVI vs. the Rams in New Orleans after the 2001 season. Hurts is the youngest QB to have a completion percentage over 70 in a Super Bowl, the youngest QB to throw for 300 yards without an interception in a Super Bowl and the youngest with four total TDs in a Super Bowl.

His 87 pass attempts in the postseason are the most by an Eagles quarterback in any postseason without an interception. The previous high was Randall Cunningham’s 65 in 1992. That’s also the 7th-highest in league history. His career postseason interception ratio – one every 65 attempts – is 10th-best in NFL history among quarterbacks with at least 100 attempts.

Hurts now has nine total touchdowns in his first four career postseason games – four passing, five rushing. Only five quarterbacks in history have had more in their first four career playoff games: Patrick Mahomes (13), Kurt Warner (12), Aaron Rodgers (12), Alex Smith (11), Dan Marino (10).

Hurts’ three rushing touchdowns tied the Super Bowl record set by Hall of Famer Terrell Davis of the Broncos in their Super Bowl XXXII win over the Packers in San Diego. Only four players have more career rushing TDs in the Super Bowl than Hurts: Hall of Famers Emmitt Smith (5), John Elway (4), Franco Harris (4) and Thurman Thomas (4). 

Get yourself a tissue, fast

A very Eagle-y mock.

Starts with a bang. Witherspoon! Yes!

Very solid, extremely versatile DL with deep NFL bloodlines, which will be almost universally deemed a "Reach" by the EMB and philly talk radio will be having a melt down.

2nd round safety, because they wont draft one in the 1st. Should be a really good pick. 

Round 3 is where Howie always makes everyone scratch their head. He goes wild. Here, he takes the injured OL with an injury. 1 year to rehab and learn from Stout. Good size, but short arms. The typical tackle to guard conversion we like. He will be ready to take over at Guard by the time Kelce retires and Jurgens moves to C.

Witt- my favorite next Stoutland project. Now they have a G, and a T of the future. OL is set. Very Howie-ish.

Ibrahim- pass/miss out on a ton of RB talent for a solid if unspectacular, underwhelming prospect. Typical. Ibrahim runs with good strength. Hes ok. Kinda like the eagles version of the nearly washed Jordan Howard.

 

 

 

Rehab looks like it’s going well. 

10 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Kempski and Gowton basically mocked the idea of Van Ness at 10 in their latest pod. He was that one guy they were like "no way" on at 10. Kempski thinks taking a part time pass rusher with no pass rush moves at 10 is insane. And I have to agree.

Both also laughed at the idea of them taking a TE early. They think the argument that they did it with Goedert and Ertz is one of the reasons not to do it now. The fact that it caused issues in the locker room and the 2 TE sets thing never really worked out like the Eagles wanted it to.

Mocking the idea of the Eagles taking a DE with huge upside at 10 is amateurish. If the context was they wouldn't do it that's fine, but if think the Eagles wouldn't consider it they are wrong. I'm not some huge fan but people are making way too big of a deal out of him not starting. It's pretty much standard operating procedure that Iowa starts upper classman. Part of the draft is about projection and when a guy is as big, athletic, and versatile as Van Ness and plays the position he does he's going to be a high pick.

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

At least he wasn’t JJAW. 

That's a really stupid thing for McLane to say. Sanders had an up and down four years here but the majority of it was very positive and last year here was extremely good despite how it ended. Like you said with JJAW, now that is the type of pick a team regrets.

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Haven’t listened to the interview but mclane saying there’s more context to it 

 

Les Bowen probably called him and told him to take the L on his stupid comment or he would kick his ass again.

7 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

We've entered the "20 different guys are going top 10" part of the draft cycle

Last week Lukas Van Ness was the hot name to go in the top 10. This week it's Nolan Smith. Who will it be next week.....stay tuned......

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

How would we feel about that?

Strengthening both lines when both are getting older and in need of depth.....boring but sign me up. It amazes me how many people forget around draft time every year that football games are won and lost in the trenches at every level.

I hadn’t heard of Oklahoma State safety Jason Taylor II before reading Tommy’s latest post. It’s just a highlight reel so not a ton can be taken from it, but I like that he was used in single high, two high, in the box, in the slot. He had 5 or 6 picks that were a mix of bad throws, good fortune and just making great breaks on the ball and good reads. 

7 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

We've entered the "20 different guys are going top 10" part of the draft cycle

But can’t that actually be true?

Teams value different players much differently outside of the pure blue chip talents. So a player who goes at #9 could conceivably drop into the late teens depending on a few players going before him and how the board falls.

Dane Brugler’s safety rankings are interesting. He doesn’t even have Brown as his top safety from Illinois. 

3 hours ago, RLC said:

At 30? Sign me up.

He can play EDGE at his weight, or 3Tech at DT. That 10 yard split is ridiculous. 

Give me athletes who could become Pro Bowlers instead of Derek Barnett.

I’d be interested to know who the top 25 or 50 were and how their careers shaped up

20 minutes ago, TEW said:

But can’t that actually be true?

Teams value different players much differently outside of the pure blue chip talents. So a player who goes at #9 could conceivably drop into the late teens depending on a few players going before him and how the board falls.

No. It literally cannot. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No. It literally cannot. 

Sure it can. There are 20 players who could possibly go top 10. Circumstances will dictate which ones actually get selected.

5 minutes ago, TEW said:

Sure it can. There are 20 players who could possibly go top 10. Circumstances will dictate which ones actually get selected.

How many will get selected top 10?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

How many will get selected top 10?

Don’t be obtuse.

Reporters are hearing more than 10 guys will go top 10. And teams can be truthful when they say they believe that all of these players will likely go top 10, because so many teams have such different grades on players.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

How many will get selected top 10?

I feel like you're taking it too literally. 10 players will be selected, out of a possible 20 that could be deemed "top 10 worthy".