Gannan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: I don't think he's worth 51 million, but we'll see. And a no trade? F that. I was skeptical going into this past year but dude, c'mon. The state of quarterbacks in the NFL is terrible. There's like 6 legit good ones, about 8-10 meh ones, and a whole lot of dreck after that. I'm not sure if even the biggest Hurts hater could make a case that he isn't a top 5 QB in this league. Honestly he's no worse than 4. Mahomes Burrow Hurts Allen Herbert Lawrence (on the rise now that he has legit coaching) Tua (always hurt) Geno Smith (yes Geno Smith is the 8th best QB in the NFL, that's how bad it is) Dak (can't win in the playoffs) Goff (the dictionary definition of a mediocre QB is 10th best) Fields (miles to go as a passer) Lamar Jackson (sucks in the red zone, terrible decision maker in terms of passing) Rodgers (cooked!) Purdy (dude probably won't even start next year) Kyler Murray (the Ben Simmons of the NFL) Jones (the Giants actually had to pay this dude like 45 mill a season because the QB position is such dreck) Cousins (this guy is going to get paid again for the same reason) After Cousins, the rest of the QBs are total trash. I could make the case that I wouldn't want any of the guys on this list after 11 as my "franchise QB". I would say any team that doesn't have one of those top 7 guys (and Miami is a stretch because I don't think Tua can stay healthy for a playoff run) has pretty much zero shot of winning a super bowl. The Eagles had to 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 59 minutes ago, paco said: Now that this domino fell there is only one logical question to ask: Where will Wentz land? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gannan said: I was skeptical going into this past year but dude, c'mon. The state of quarterbacks in the NFL is terrible. There's like 6 legit good ones, about 8-10 meh ones, and a whole lot of dreck after that. I'm not sure if even the biggest Hurts hater could make a case that he isn't a top 5 QB in this league. Honestly he's no worse than 4. Mahomes Burrow Hurts Allen Herbert Lawrence (on the rise now that he has legit coaching) Tua (always hurt) Geno Smith (yes Geno Smith is the 8th best QB in the NFL, that's how bad it is) Dak (can't win in the playoffs) Goff (the dictionary definition of a mediocre QB is 10th best) Fields (miles to go as a passer) Lamar Jackson (sucks in the red zone, terrible decision maker in terms of passing) Rodgers (cooked!) Purdy (dude probably won't even start next year) Kyler Murray (the Ben Simmons of the NFL) Jones (the Giants actually had to pay this dude like 45 mill a season because the QB position is such dreck) Cousins (this guy is going to get paid again for the same reason) After Cousins, the rest of the QBs are total trash. I could make the case that I wouldn't want any of the guys on this list after 11 as my "franchise QB". I would say any team that doesn't have one of those top 7 guys (and Miami is a stretch because I don't think Tua can stay healthy for a playoff run) has pretty much zero shot of winning a super bowl. The Eagles had to He's crazy but you can't call him cooked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehardfan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: I was skeptical going into this past year but dude, c'mon. The state of quarterbacks in the NFL is terrible. There's like 6 legit good ones, about 8-10 meh ones, and a whole lot of dreck after that. I'm not sure if even the biggest Hurts hater could make a case that he isn't a top 5 QB in this league. Honestly he's no worse than 4. Mahomes Burrow Hurts Allen Herbert Lawrence (on the rise now that he has legit coaching) Tua (always hurt) Geno Smith (yes Geno Smith is the 8th best QB in the NFL, that's how bad it is) Dak (can't win in the playoffs) Goff (the dictionary definition of a mediocre QB is 10th best) Fields (miles to go as a passer) Lamar Jackson (sucks in the red zone, terrible decision maker in terms of passing) Rodgers (cooked!) Purdy (dude probably won't even start next year) Kyler Murray (the Ben Simmons of the NFL) Jones (the Giants actually had to pay this dude like 45 mill a season because the QB position is such dreck) Cousins (this guy is going to get paid again for the same reason) After Cousins, the rest of the QBs are total trash. I could make the case that I wouldn't want any of the guys on this list after 11 as my "franchise QB". I would say any team that doesn't have one of those top 7 guys (and Miami is a stretch because I don't think Tua can stay healthy for a playoff run) has pretty much zero shot of winning a super bowl. The Eagles had to Maybe PM is worth $51/million a year...maybe...but the rest aren't IMO. Yes, the market dictates, but that won't change my feelings. I bet Herbert is going to get $55 and we'll be at $60 soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, Mike030270 said: He's crazy but you can't call him cooked He looks cooked to me. 26 TDs and 12 interceptions is hardly impressive. Wentz had better numbers (barely) when they shipped his arse out of Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Maybe PM is worth $51/million a year...maybe...but the rest aren't IMO. Yes, the market dictates, but that won't change my feelings. I bet Herbert is going to get $55 and we'll be at $60 soon. In any job whether it's NFL QB or cashier at MCDonalds, salary is what the market dictates. That's the going rate for a top 5 NFL QB. Burrow might get 60. The Eagles were wise to get this done before the other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonblood Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 He is not THAT good. Overpaid for a guy who cost them a Super Bowl. 🤣 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Talonblood said: He is not THAT good. Overpaid for a guy who cost them a Super Bowl. 🤣 You're a little vague there. Not THAT good as in, let him walk and draft someone new......or not that good, I'd rather have Allen, Herbert, Lawrence.....or not that good, I'd rather have Tua, Geno or Dak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeach_Eagle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 $255 Million in salary for one player. See what proper use of an Amazon link can do for an organization? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehardfan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Talonblood said: He is not THAT good. Overpaid for a guy who cost them a Super Bowl. 🤣 Nobody has been harder in him in the past then me, but one mistake didn't cost them the Super Bowl when the defense fell apart. Now, is he worth being the highest paid QB in the league after that? Especially, when the QB on the other side didn't have to punt the second half and didn't turn the ball over. Yes, PM signed early and it's spread over ten years, we get it. Anyway, that's a more fair question to ask. He at least made it there over Allen, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: $255 Million in salary for one player. See what proper use of an Amazon link can do for an organization? Ask Hurts to fund the board now that he's rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameshowfan91 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Talonblood said: He is not THAT good. Overpaid for a guy who cost them a Super Bowl. 🤣 Who do you replace Hurts with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeach_Eagle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, NOTW said: Ask Hurts to fund the board now that he's rich No, I'll ask him to fund a new vehicle for me... err... I mean for the board. I promise to put an EMB bumper sticker on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Yeah, no discount at all. That no trade is BS. This isn't baseball or hockey. Seems like you're upset about someone elses pockets :) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91defense Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, Talonblood said: He is not THAT good. Overpaid for a guy who cost them a Super Bowl. 🤣 Do you hope he fails so you're right? Or do you hope he succeeds because you're a fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91defense Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, gameshowfan91 said: Who do you replace Hurts with? Trade him for Mahomes, Kelce, and a 1st. Or maybe Sam Darnold in FA. So many better options than a guy who played a nearly flawless Super Bowl. Key word being nearly. F that guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I thought he was joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91defense Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 He went on a Hurts-bashing-crusade right after the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brkmsn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Eagles_All_Day said: CJGJ should seriously consider switching agents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesteakitis Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: He's crazy but you can't call him cooked stafford or wilson didn’t make the list above some of those other scrubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cheesteakitis said: stafford or wilson didn’t make the list above some of those other scrubs? I assume he felt all of them are better than those 2 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cheesteakitis said: stafford or wilson didn’t make the list above some of those other scrubs? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 The no trade clause shows the faith they have in him. It also I think gives Jalen a bit more protection which is why he signed for 5 years possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, Mike030270 said: I assume he felt all of them are better than those 2 🤷♂️ That's like asking why Matt Ryan or Phillip Rivers didn't make the list Stafford maybe comes back from injury and isn't the total suck machine he was last year, but at 35 it's not assured. If anyone watched any of Denver last year, they'd know Wilson is probably only ahead of that Milf chaser in New York. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 That's... an interesting perspective lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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