Talkingbirds Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Wonderful, very happy we got this done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterEagle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, beto_eagles said: So much for hoping he'd sign a more team-friendly deal... Well deserved, though. He didn't have to. I trust Howie structured it in a way that will keep talent around. 4 hours ago, Portyansky said: This year 5m against the cap, then 32m each for the next 2 years It's not a Mahomes or Brady team friendly deal, but it's not bad. The guaranteed money is high, but the contract isn't fully guaranteed and because it's a 5 year extension, it means we can keep the cap hits down for the next 2-3 years. We also avoided a short deal where we may have had to go up to 60-65 in 3 years to match contracts continuing to rise. I'm sure Howie will have manipulated the cap with dummy years, roster bonuses etc. Most important thing is we have our franchise QB locked up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterEagle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 hours ago, NOTW said: The main offensive weapons signed through: DeVonta Smith: 2024 Kenneth Gainwell: 2024 Dallas Goedert: 2025 AJ Brown: 2026 O line starters: (Howie has proven to extend and keep O linemen) Kelce: 2023, but Jurgens there ready Dickerson: 2024 Mailata: 2025 Johnson: 2025 So all the main guys around him on offense are signed for the next 2-3 years already before this deal. And am I right in thinking we have the 5th year option for Smith, so we have Smith Goedert and Brown all tied up through 2025? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, SkippyX said: Don't worry about the NTC. No team is trading for a 50m QB who does not want to be there. Every top salary QB has an automatic NTC. If this was not so then Stafford would have gone to Carolina. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_matthew_stafford_nixed_trade_to_panthers_in_favor_of_rams/s1_127_35847308 I think it’s more of a commitment thing. Jalen’s heard all the rumors about how the team was looking to trade for some guys and possibly trade him away. He’s also witnessed what happened to Carson. Both sides are looking to show they’re in it for the long haul. With that being the case NTCs can be waived so all it really means is if either side is looking for a split the quarterback has the right to choose where he goes. Hard to predict the future, but I really don’t think that will be an issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said: And am I right in thinking we have the 5th year option for Smith, so we have Smith Goedert and Brown all tied up through 2025? Howie’s kind of put on a master class here. He has his core offense locked up for multiple years at a time. He has an enormous amount of draft capital for 2024 and 4 picks in the first three rounds of this draft to move all around the board if he wants. The Eagles are in a great position for the next 3-5 years which is crazy because after 2020 people thought it was all crashing down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMachine Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Great to have him locked up, no issue at all with the contract. He earned it and no doubt with his demeaner this will not change his motivation to get better. I had my doubts two seasons back like a lot of people, but if there is anyone that I think the money will change their play it's not Jalen. Kelce and Lane as well, actually a few others as well. Can't wait for the draft and the season to start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said: It's not a Mahomes or Brady team friendly deal, but it's not bad. The guaranteed money is high, but the contract isn't fully guaranteed and because it's a 5 year extension, it means we can keep the cap hits down for the next 2-3 years. We also avoided a short deal where we may have had to go up to 60-65 in 3 years to match contracts continuing to rise. I'm sure Howie will have manipulated the cap with dummy years, roster bonuses etc. Most important thing is we have our franchise QB locked up. People need to stop with the falsehood that Brady was taking a deal This will look more like a deal once Herbert and Burrow get their contracts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Howie’s kind of put on a master class here. He has his core offense locked up for multiple years at a time. He has an enormous amount of draft capital for 2024 and 4 picks in the first three rounds of this draft to move all around the board if he wants. The Eagles are in a great position for the next 3-5 years which is crazy because after 2020 people thought it was all crashing down. Future and immediate future looking bright! :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: People need to stop with the falsehood that Brady was taking a deal This will look more like a deal once Herbert and Burrow get their contracts Great deal the way it's staggered per year. Howie strikes again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 To me, this contract screams that the cap is set to explode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rey said: By 2027, the $31 million hit will be a drop in the bucket if things continue in this direction 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 This is extremely low as far as the Cap hit goes ... no clue how this can be possible, but if these #'s are correct we have tons of money still available that I did not expect the next few years. Hell, Hurts counts for less than Javon Hargrave till 2026 ... lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, Procus said: To me, this contract screams that the cap is set to explode Inflation is set to explode smh. Hyper inflation time folks fasten up your seat belts. Countries are dropping the dollar even allies. Hurts contact is a a sign of the times indeed :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, Procus said: By 2027, the $31 million hit will be a drop in the bucket if things continue in this direction Howie strikes again! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Procus said: By 2027, the $31 million hit will be a drop in the bucket if things continue in this direction Thank you. People who say the Eagles overpaid miss the point. It's never about one guy or one deal. It's a market, like Wall Street. This deal is exactly on market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1000 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Procus said: By 2027, the $31 million hit will be a drop in the bucket if things continue in this direction EXACTLY, which is why I can't help but laugh at the one clown complaining about this. Hurts is now under contract for the next six years. By the time this contract kicks in in 2024 there will be two or three QB's already making more than than him. Once he is just two years into this five year deal it will look like a bargain. This is why getting your QB locked up first and setting the market is always the best move. Not only that, looks at his cap hit in 24 and 25, and 31 million in 26 probably won't be that much with the amazon money coming in and the cap sure to rise significantly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Thank you. People who say the Eagles overpaid miss the point. It's never about one guy or one deal. It's a market, like Wall Street. This deal is exactly on market. Once those contracts for Burrow and Herbert drop people might be signing a different tune. If anything this contract feels mind boggling low considering the numbers we have been told it is. Jalen’s cap hits just don’t seem to register the cost of this contract. Frankly Howie has no excuses now. He can’t claim that he doesn’t have the money to field a team around Jalen with these types of cap hits. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackfish Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Mike030270 said: People need to stop with the falsehood that Brady was taking a deal This will look more like a deal once Herbert and Burrow get their contracts Mike Brown owner of the Bengals putting $200 plus million in escrow, to cover Burrows guarantee should be interesting, that transfer of money might cause him to have a stroke. As for Howie being a magician in some fans eyes, yep he absolutely knows how to play the salary as well as anyone, but don't forget that lots of GM's in the NFL would love to have an owner like Lurie that's willing to pay countless dead cap hits. What is it in 2023, 46 million? Next closest team is the Raiders at about $30 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, The Blackfish said: Mike Brown owner of the Bengals putting $200 plus million in escrow, to cover Burrows guarantee should be interesting, that transfer of money might cause him to have a stroke. As for Howie being a magician in some fans eyes, yep he absolutely knows how to play the salary as well as anyone, but don't forget that lots of GM's in the NFL would love to have an owner like Lurie that's willing to pay countless dead cap hits. What is it in 2023, 46 million? Next closest team is the Raiders at about $30 million. And also don’t forget with our cap we like to give those signing bonuses that get spread against the cap. I think the player gets the full amount but it is spread. That helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehardfan Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 10 hours ago, judunno said: Seems like you're upset about someone elses pockets 🙂 You make no sense. I said I hate the no trade clause in baseball and hockey and don't want to see it in the NFL. After this it will be popping up all over I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwide Schrude Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 10 hours ago, judunno said: Seems like you're upset about someone elses pockets 🙂 He has something against Hurts. Called for his injury a couple years ago so we could find a new QB. I’m not surprised he’s having issues with this contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterEagle Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 7 hours ago, judunno said: Great deal the way it's staggered per year. Howie strikes again. 6 hours ago, Rey said: This is extremely low as far as the Cap hit goes ... no clue how this can be possible, but if these #'s are correct we have tons of money still available that I did not expect the next few years. Hell, Hurts counts for less than Javon Hargrave till 2026 ... lol 6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Howie strikes again! People freak out about the size of these contract, but the keys are guaranteed money, length and cap hit. There was talk that Hurts wanted a three year extension so he could negotiate again. This contract feels like it’s going to be restructured after 2026. In the meantime Hurts gets a bucket load of guaranteed money and to say he’s the highest paid player in the league. This will be an extremely back loaded contract with dummy years. The result is that we have our franchise QB for the next 4 years on extremely low cap hits. Another masterclass by Howie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Rey said: That is actually crazy good. I like that the deal is through 2028, was hoping for a longer term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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