gameshowfan91 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 11:28 AM, Diehardfan said: I don't think he's worth 51 million, but we'll see. And a no trade? F that. Diehardfan, Who would you have replaced Hurts with? On 4/17/2023 at 12:51 PM, Gannan said: I was skeptical going into this past year but dude, c'mon. The state of quarterbacks in the NFL is terrible. There's like 6 legit good ones, about 8-10 meh ones, and a whole lot of dreck after that. I'm not sure if even the biggest Hurts hater could make a case that he isn't a top 5 QB in this league. Honestly he's no worse than 4. Mahomes Burrow Hurts Allen Herbert Lawrence (on the rise now that he has legit coaching) Tua (always hurt) Geno Smith (yes Geno Smith is the 8th best QB in the NFL, that's how bad it is) Dak (can't win in the playoffs) Goff (the dictionary definition of a mediocre QB is 10th best) Fields (miles to go as a passer) Lamar Jackson (sucks in the red zone, terrible decision maker in terms of passing) Rodgers (cooked!) Purdy (dude probably won't even start next year) Kyler Murray (the Ben Simmons of the NFL) Jones (the Giants actually had to pay this dude like 45 mill a season because the QB position is such dreck) Cousins (this guy is going to get paid again for the same reason) After Cousins, the rest of the QBs are total trash. I could make the case that I wouldn't want any of the guys on this list after 11 as my "franchise QB". I would say any team that doesn't have one of those top 7 guys (and Miami is a stretch because I don't think Tua can stay healthy for a playoff run) has pretty much zero shot of winning a super bowl. The Eagles had to 1-5 are only QBs I'd give big contracts to. Lawrence is questionable (he's on rise). I may have included Tua if not for health concerns. Lamar apparently isn't backing away from a fully guaranteed contract. The other QBs: I'd rather take my chances in draft if they want top money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devaster Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Hurts ripped up his old deal and got a 6 year contract for about $260mil. That is actually a yearly average of about $43mil. He was going to make $4.2mil this season on his rookie contract, which is included in the new deal. It really isn't that bad a deal and a bit of a discount compared to some other QB's. In a couple years this contract won't look as impactful as it is right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGnabb Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 He was a 2nd Round Pick that wasn't even technically supposed to start until Dougie P took a chance and put him in the last 4 games of 2020. People were expecting Jalen to get paid but a lot of people weren't expecting him to get this big of a contact this early. He's only been the starter for 2 years. It's a huge Draft success story for the Eagles. This is a testament to Jalen's work ethic and success that the Organization did this so quickly. Jalen literally hit the jackpot with this contract. He's only 24 years old and increased his salary by a lot in the coming years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 It appears to be a smart deal for the player and the team. Also, as the cap rises over the next few years, it won't seem like a lot then. This team is in a position to actually add talent moving forward rather than watch it all leave due to the QB contract. Well done Howie. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 11 hours ago, gameshowfan91 said: Who would you have replaced Hurts with? 1-5 are only QBs I'd give big contracts to. Lawrence is questionable (he's on rise). I may have included Tua if not for health concerns. Lamar apparently isn't backing away from a fully guaranteed contract. The other QBs: I'd rather take my chances in draft if they want top money. So you're saying let him walk and hope that the Eagles can draft another starting caliber NFL QB? Is that an accurate statement? Just so we can stay on record, the Eagles are drafting at #10. I'm assuming you want to draft Hurts replacement here. Who are you thinking can replace him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterEagle Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Vee said: So you're saying let him walk and hope that the Eagles can draft another starting caliber NFL QB? Is that an accurate statement? Just so we can stay on record, the Eagles are drafting at #10. I'm assuming you want to draft Hurts replacement here. Who are you thinking can replace him? This poster isn’t saying that. He’s questioning diehard who is unhappy with the contract. He is saying he would pay Hurts but not many others in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameshowfan91 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Vee said: So you're saying let him walk and hope that the Eagles can draft another starting caliber NFL QB? Is that an accurate statement? Just so we can stay on record, the Eagles are drafting at #10. I'm assuming you want to draft Hurts replacement here. Who are you thinking can replace him? No. I said Hurts is one of those guys I would pay. Look at my post again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPIDER-MAN Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 FFS the Eagles just signed a great player and all you trolls do is bicker with one another over such stupid ****. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, SPIDER-MAN said: FFS the Eagles just signed a great player and all you trolls do is bicker with one another over such stupid ****. Welcome to TATE! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 9:14 AM, judunno said: The guaranteed money and no trade clause kind of voids the back loaded dummy years concept. I agree he likely restructures to do the team a solid towards the end so that he can actually have a supporting cast though Eagles will restructure by the end of the contract and the cap will rise at that point as well. Howie probably already sees future cap estimates (so long as there isn’t another pandemic like situation anyways) so even the late numbers might not seem as bad in the future. Regardless the Eagles and Hurts will restructure and they will give him another deal before any of that stuff becomes a real issue. So long as Jalen continues to play at a high level it will all work itself out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenskeeper Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 23 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said: FFS the Eagles just signed a great player and all you trolls do is bicker with one another over such stupid ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 6 hours ago, NOTW said: I don’t mind them putting more on him, but I’d prefer that would be more passing and less running. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoEagles614 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 The amount of runs doesn’t bother me. He just needs to slide and get out of bounds before taking big hits. Especially when he has a first down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said: The amount of runs doesn’t bother me. He just needs to slide and get out of bounds before taking big hits. Especially when he has a first down. That’s where I am. Take the runs when they’re open and available, but less of the battering Ram runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said: The amount of runs doesn’t bother me. He just needs to slide and get out of bounds before taking big hits. Especially when he has a first down. Agreed. He was actually doing that most of last year until the Chicago game where he started playing Rugby for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 11 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: I don’t mind them putting more on him, but I’d prefer that would be more passing and less running. I think he should run a bit less and do it smarter the way he was earlier in last season with sliding, getting out of bounds, minimizing hits, etc. But I can also understand the coach not wanting to discuss strategy of the play book. "Yeah, we plan to reduce Hurts' run plays by 40%, so that should help defensive coordinators game plan for us each week." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 1 hour ago, GoEagles614 said: The amount of runs doesn’t bother me. He just needs to slide and get out of bounds before taking big hits. Especially when he has a first down. I don't like the hard cuts that he does at times. He needs to chill on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 21 hours ago, NOTW said: I know everyone hopes this is coach speak but I think he's actually telling the truth Just hope they keep working on him going out of bounds or sliding (although we saw how he still gets hit ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I know everyone hopes this is coach speak but I think he's actually telling the truth Just hope they keep working on him going out of bounds or sliding (although we saw how he still gets hit ) Yeah... teams will take the cheap shots regardless to try to get him out the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoEagles614 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 6 hours ago, judunno said: I don't like the hard cuts that he does at times. He needs to chill on that. That is part of his game. Lol. Can’t take that away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judunno Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said: That is part of his game. Lol. Can’t take that away. Great for the highlights but scares the hell out of me every time he does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonblood Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 The guy got injured by being a running QB, and missed time last year. He is a running QB 1st, pocket passer 2nd. Running QB's ALWAYS get hurt and become one dimensional. When they become one dimensional, they BETTER have developed their pocket QB skills and football brains, or all you have is The Michael Vick show, which is a QB who isn't smart, has a decent arm, has a few flashy plays, and wins.... NOTHING. As long as Hurts has elite pocket passer skills when he can't run, that's fine. But he is just an ok passer, so you better pray he never gets hurt running and can't run no mo'. The day he can't run, it's all over- unless he knows this and becomes a great pocket passing, game calling QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Talonblood Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, toolg said: I stopped reading at "Money is nice...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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