2 hours ago, Gannan said:

They haven't won the house yet. Even the NYT who has been bullish on the gop all along isn't predicting that yet. 

My bad. Thought I heard it was already declared 

3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

If God is real then I hope you truly, truly believe that. Because I can only imagine the Old Testament punishment coming the way of someone who knows deeeeeep down that Trump isn't virtuous or speaking for God but spreads the false word anyway.

Lucky for me I believe in the NT as well. Again, King David wrote much of Psalms as a murderer and adulterer. My feeling is many here hate the message as much as the messenger about providence.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Judge not, and you will not be judged.

He's not the model, but God uses imperfect people like I mentioned with Paul who wanted to murder Christians. I'm proud that he is calling for us to pray (if we choose) and once again become one nation under God.

As you said they believed in providence. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion.

It does at a government level thats their whole point. I am free of your religious beliefs and you are free of anyone elses

14 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Being sent and being used are two things. Prophets in the OT were sent, while kings were used for good. Solomon wasn't righteous. Neither was David when he wrote Psalms. He was a murderer and adulterer that wrote a book of the bible. 

But you love to mock by saying that's not normal. It's normal to believe in God and providence as an American like the Founders.

Trump is a man with flaws, but can reached hundreds of millions of Americans, so I'm proud to have a president encouraging prayer and for us to once again become one nation under God.

 

Correct, if you believe God sent Trump or handpicked him over actual Christians to "use" him, you've got a screw loose. The guy literally rapes a woman, cheats on all his wives, spews a never ending stream of lies (some of which have got people killed), etc. Your shtick that "He is using him" is just a thinly veiled justification for voting for an immoral, corrupt, moron simply because of the letter next to his name. 

36 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Can't think of a better way to go!

Check out how Nelson Rockefeller is rumored to have left this mortal coil 😉

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Lucky for me I believe in the NT as well. Again, King David wrote much of Psalms as a murderer and adulterer. My feeling is many here hate the message as much as the messenger about providence.

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

It does at a government level thats their whole point. I am free of your religious beliefs and you are free of anyone elses

No, freedom of religion does not mean freedom and absence of it on the gov level either. That's a recent thing being pushed by those who don't believe or hate God.

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Being sent and being used are two things. Prophets in the OT were sent, while kings were used for good. Solomon wasn't righteous. Neither was David when he wrote much of Psalms. He was a murderer and adulterer that wrote chapters of the bible. 

But you love to mock by saying that's not normal. It's normal to believe in God and providence as an American like the Founders.

Trump is a man with flaws, but can reached hundreds of millions of Americans, so I'm proud to have a president encouraging prayer and for us to once again become one nation under God.

 

You sound like the taliban

17 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Donald Trump is 78 years old, can't read, and strays farther from the good book with every word he speaks. What kind of Godly pivot are you expecting before he keels over in a few years after his heart explodes from cocaine and filet-o-fishes? 

Things I believe:  it's never too late to turn towards Jesus.  It's not up to me to judge how closely he's adhering to Jesus' teachings.  

Do I expect him to be this saintly, pious person?  No, I don't really expect that from anyone.  But I certainly don't have any issue with him saying let's reconnect with God. 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

No, freedom of religion does not mean freedom and absence of it on the gov level either. That's a recent thing being pushed by those who don't believe or hate God.

You can keep repeating it. It will still be incorrect every time.

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Things I believe:  it's never too late to turn towards Jesus.

Trump's almost there. He's about to complete that turn any day now! He's just taking his time like he does when walking down ramps.  

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The guy literally rapes a woman

 

31 minutes ago, Kz! said:

 

A WVU hoodie....that poor man.  Kamala just lost and hes got to root for WVU sports teams now.  It just keeps getting worse.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Trump's almost there. He's about to complete that turn any day now! He's just taking his time like he does when walking down ramps.  

he'll announce his turn to jesus plan in 2 weeks. 

2 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Check out how Nelson Rockefeller is rumored to have left this mortal coil 😉

Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen to Belichick

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Things I believe:  it's never too late to turn towards Jesus.  It's not up to me to judge how closely he's adhering to Jesus' teachings.  

Do I expect him to be this saintly, pious person?  No, I don't really expect that from anyone.  But I certainly don't have any issue with him saying let's reconnect with God. 

What's your stance on the McRib?

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Correct, if you believe God sent Trump or handpicked him over actual Christians to "use" him, you've got a screw loose. The guy literally rapes a woman, cheats on all his wives, spews a never ending stream of lies (some of which have got people killed), etc. Your shtick that "He is using him" just a thinly veiled justification for voting for an immoral, corrupt, moron simply beause of the letter next to his name. 

As I said being sent and used are two things you want to ignore. I never said sent.

Used like King David who murdered and killed yet wrote chapters of the Bible in Psalms that prove that He uses leaders with flaws to turn people towards him. The election is over. He made a great statement today encouraging people to pray and turn to God. I hope many do because we need Him.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Things I believe:  it's never too late to turn towards Jesus.  It's not up to me to judge how closely he's adhering to Jesus' teachings.  

Do I expect him to be this saintly, pious person?  No, I don't really expect that from anyone.  But I certainly don't have any issue with him saying let's reconnect with God. 

What you're describing is the very literal definition of a biblical false prophet. Like... there's no difference at all. It's as if what you just wrote could be taken directly out of the Bible.

24 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

@Diehardfan  Do you believe Trump was sent by God or did you mean something else when you said He uses flawed men to carry out his will?

Oh yes, we've quickly reached the part of this discussion where WGB plays semantics in an effort to downplay his psychosis.

 

Here we go.....(clears throat)

Couldn't you say that we were all sent by God, WGB??? In that case, Trump was absolutely sent by God and he's the POTUS.  So I guess the prophecy has been fulfilled.

Since people were being beat down for merely suggesting that the Harris "enthusiasm" was manufactured, I can only assume it's a lock she is the nominee in 2028 right?

 

Circle Jerk, I'd love to hear who you would like to see get the nod.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

As I said being sent and used are two things you want to ignore. I never said sent.

Used like King David who murdered and killed yet wrote chapters of the Bible in Psalms that prove that He uses leaders with flaws to turn people towards him. The election is over. He made a great statement today encouraging people to pray and turn to God. I hope many do because we need Him.

You need Him and also a psychologist. 

 

 

22 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Being sent and being used are two things. Prophets in the OT were sent, while kings were used for good. Solomon wasn't righteous. Neither was David when he wrote much of Psalms. He was a murderer and adulterer that wrote chapters of the bible. 

But you love to mock by saying that's not normal. It's normal to believe in God and providence as an American like the Founders.

Trump is a man with flaws, but can reached hundreds of millions of Americans, so I'm proud to have a president encouraging prayer and for us to once again become one nation under God.

 

You do know Biden actually goes to church, right?

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Oh yes, we've quickly reached the part of this discussion where WGB plays semantics in an effort to downplay his psychosis.

 

Here we go.....(clears throat)

Couldn't you say that we were all sent by God, WGB??? In that case, Trump was absolutely sent by God and he's the POTUS.  So I guess the prophecy has been fulfilled.

You might not hear me say this to you too often, but I actually agree, you were clearly sent by God to reinforce every stereotype about people who are born and raised in West Virginia.

4 minutes ago, paco said:

Circle Jerk, I'd love to hear who you would like to see get the nod.

Personally: Whitmer.

Logically to give us a chance to win: Shapiro