8 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Reports are that it's been declining since it started

a million people typing "first" and then never doing anything again.

8 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Eagles signed Deon Cain. He's back again.

I suggested the Eagles might do this.

8 hours ago, metal said:

Would this be an appropriate use of the phrase "camp body"? 

I don't think so.  I think "camp body" is below "possible practice squad again".

He was on the practice squad before,  then he went to a lower league and did great, including kickoff return touchdowns.   The Eagles are solid at PR with Covey, but it's possible that KR could be improved by Cain.  Maybe.  And if he's sitting on PR, the Eagles might possibly think that Cain could upgrade KR, if KR isn't doing ok.

Despite the fact that I tend to think that any great athlete can do what they did in high school,  NFL teams don't necessarily think the same way. 

28 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Dude is carrying a franchise and there are people saying he doesn’t deserve it. It’s crazy how ring culture has twisted people’s logic

I kinda see it from both sides. Chargers are smart to extend him. They found their QB and didn't have to pay a ransom to go get him in the draft, and they aren't upgrading on him. But at the same time, that is a lot of coin going to a guy who hasn't won a playoff game yet. It's a team game and his head coach sucks, but he should still have beaten the Raiders in Week 18 in 2021 and there's no excuse to losing that playoff game against the Jaguars when Lawrence threw 4 picks. In the end, he got what the market says he's worth. I think the Chargers should have tried harder to get him done first before Hurts, Jackson etc. 

44 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No new word mark this year, eh?

For the jerseys it’s not happening til 2024 

8 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

I don't think so.  I think "camp body" is below "possible practice squad again".

He was on the practice squad before,  then he went to a lower league and did great, including kickoff return touchdowns.   The Eagles are solid at PR with Covey, but it's possible that KR could be improved by Cain.  Maybe.  And if he's sitting on PR, the Eagles might possibly think that Cain could upgrade KR, if KR isn't doing ok.

Despite the fact that I tend to think that any great athlete can do what they did in high school,  NFL teams don't necessarily think the same way. 

The days of KR are all but dead with the new rule. Whoever the PR is will be doing KR most likely. I don't think they will even bother dressing Boston Scott to do KR unless he is getting snaps in at RB also, and I don't really see them dressing 4 RB's. 

7 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I agree they should have moved away from RPO's.  They should not have needed to use Hurts in the running game even as an option to move the ball.  

Hurts was the Big Back last year.  I was told that was perfectly fine.  I like the running QBs and want as much of that as possible.   However,  I'm also in favor of having a big back who is not a QB and is 230 - 400 pounds.   Or many big backs who can run and block while being freakbeasts.   Most teams don't have a bushel of those players,  the Eagles do. 

7 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

He didn't care even a little bit, when he potentially alienated a 3rd - 1/2 his user base that prefers the ability to silence those with opinions they do not like. 

your numbers are a bit high.   I'd go 10% to 33%.

It's not like every single Democrat all decided at the same time that it was ok to stifle dissent.    At one point in time,  Democrats were freedom lovers or at least some Dems.  33% as the ceiling - all Dems.  10% as the floor - some Dems. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I kinda see it from both sides. Chargers are smart to extend him. They found their QB and didn't have to pay a ransom to go get him in the draft, and they aren't upgrading on him. But at the same time, that is a lot of coin going to a guy who hasn't won a playoff game yet. It's a team game and his head coach sucks, but he should still have beaten the Raiders in Week 18 in 2021 and there's no excuse to losing that playoff game against the Jaguars when Lawrence threw 4 picks. In the end, he got what the market says he's worth. I think the Chargers should have tried harder to get him done first before Hurts, Jackson etc. 

The Chargers had built a 4 possession lead and Herbert had 0 turnovers that game. I don’t think losing it is on him, just like 28-3 isn’t on Matt Ryan and the Colts/Vikings game isn’t on… also Matt Ryan. Is the SB where the 9ers were up by 10 and the Chiefs stormed back on Garoppolo? Is the second half of the Eagles SB where we had a 10 point lead even after the Jalen fumble on Jalen? If Herbert had 0 first half points and a 27-point second half, the narrative suddenly flips but his overall performance is the same really.

 

I cannot believe they even made the playoff last year, much less almost made it 2 years in a row if not for that aforementioned Raiders game in week 18. Dude is dragging them across the finish line

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I know there are different rules when using certain words, but I'll never understand why anyone needs to talk like this. You sound dumb.

, 

 

Yo dawg, dis b te type of ish my homie Shocker b sayn n he's got banned from dis mudda

@EaglePhan1986 he be no wht I sayn

7 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I think he was virtue signalling to people who he feels more politically aligned to currently.  

I don't know if "not censoring" means the same thing as "virtue signaling".

Musk was trying to appeal to the 1/3d who are conservative by not censoring them.  Not censoring is not virtue signaling.

I do understand that those who enjoy virtue signaling and love censorship want to pretend that everyone does it.  I don't even know what "virtue signaling" is.  It's a term that the not conservatives invented for the conservatives to use to describe the new behavior of the not conservatives.   Conservatives wouldn't have come up with a term with flattering attributes, like "virtue".  Conservatives would have come up with something like "scumpinions" 

6 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

The Chargers had built a 4 possession lead and Herbert had 0 turnovers that game. I don’t think losing it is on him, just like 28-3 isn’t on Matt Ryan and the Colts/Vikings game isn’t on… also Matt Ryan. Is the SB where the 9ers were up by 10 and the Chiefs stormed back on Garoppolo? Is the second half of the Eagles SB where we had a 10 point lead even after the Jalen fumble on Jalen? If Herbert had 0 first half points and a 27-point second half, the narrative suddenly flips but his overall performance is the same really.

 

I cannot believe they even made the playoff last year, much less almost made it 2 years in a row if not for that aforementioned Raiders game in week 18. Dude is dragging them across the finish line

Based on that graphic, I think the issue is that he clearly needs to tackle better.

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The days of KR are all but dead with the new rule. Whoever the PR is will be doing KR most likely. I don't think they will even bother dressing Boston Scott to do KR unless he is getting snaps in at RB also, and I don't really see them dressing 4 RB's. 

Kind of depends on what ST coaches calculate are options.  Squib kicks? 

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Smart move getting it done quick

 

 

And then Dak is up for his new deal from the Cowboys after all of that. 

"ALL?”

Hmm…

7 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Kaep was 4-20 in his last 24.

Fields is 5-20 in his first 25.

Never underestimate the power of imagination when making stupid lists.

25th in QB rating

33rd in ANY/A

31st in completion %

6th in TD %

32nd in INT %  (Dak was 33rd *️⃣)

17th in yards per attempt.

 

He was 7th in rushing yards but he had 1 less fumble (16) than the first 6 guys combined (17)

76.2 rushing yards per game would be nice if it was not combined with a putrid 149.5 passing yards per game.

 

He had about 450 more rushing yards than Daniel Jones and about 1000 less passing yards.  Jones had 10 less fumbles and 4 less picks. Was Daniel Jones 65 on the list? 

I like Fields.  I like all the running QBs.   I wouldn't be here if Hurts wasn't a running QB.  I pay attention to the teams that do the things I want them to do. 

It's not easy to figure out how to win with running QBs, especially when you haven't had a running QB before and you haven't had your QB run a lot.

The Bears are going to do what they do,  we'll see what that is.   They should have figured out a way to win most of the time with Fields running a lot.  It's good to pair a running QB with a good run blocking OL, good running backs and good blocking elsewhere.  Fields is fast,  4.46 I think.  And he put up a lot of huge runs.   Lamar started 6-1 in 2018,  breaking rushing records,  most carries by a QB in a game.  for me it might be worth watching.  I've considered paying more attention to the Bears.  Also interested in seeing what happens with Anthony Richardson.  Same thing applies to him as Fields. 

12 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

The Chargers had built a 4 possession lead and Herbert had 0 turnovers that game. I don’t think losing it is on him, just like 28-3 isn’t on Matt Ryan and the Colts/Vikings game isn’t on… also Matt Ryan. Is the SB where the 9ers were up by 10 and the Chiefs stormed back on Garoppolo? Is the second half of the Eagles SB where we had a 10 point lead even after the Jalen fumble on Jalen? If Herbert had 0 first half points and a 27-point second half, the narrative suddenly flips but his overall performance is the same really.

 

I cannot believe they even made the playoff last year, much less almost made it 2 years in a row if not for that aforementioned Raiders game in week 18. Dude is dragging them across the finish line

I’d say that loss was absolutely on Matt Ryan. The offense had like 4 three and outs in the second half and Ryan was strip sacked at one point. 

Hurts isn’t the sole reason they lost or even a major reason, but the drive after the Chiefs took the first lead and Eagles needed to answer back, they went 3 and out. Same thing with Herbert. They needed to answer the call when the Jaguars were rallying, but had to settle for 2 punts, a FG and a missed 58 yard field goal. The offense wasn’t good enough to answer back.

Fair or not that’s the cross they have to bear making that type of money. 

14 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Kind of depends on what ST coaches calculate are options.  Squib kicks? 

That might work like once a game, and I doubt it would even be much of an advantage in field position, if it even is an advantage at all 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The days of KR are all but dead with the new rule. Whoever the PR is will be doing KR most likely. I don't think they will even bother dressing Boston Scott to do KR unless he is getting snaps in at RB also, and I don't really see them dressing 4 RB's. 

I wish the NFL would adopt the xfls kick return rules.

The XFL saw a problem and instead of eliminating kickoffs all together they came up with a viable working solution that makes kick returns an actual part of the game.

NFL has adopted things from other leagues before, the sky cam was first used in the first XFL.

Why not use their kickoff?

 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The days of KR are all but dead with the new rule. Whoever the PR is will be doing KR most likely. I don't think they will even bother dressing Boston Scott to do KR unless he is getting snaps in at RB also, and I don't really see them dressing 4 RB's. 

I don't know.  I don't think that you're right to say that definitively.

Deon Cain is a backup WR,  6'2, fast,  was clutch in that recent game.  Can do KR.

the Eagles might see it that way.   Last year Covey started as KR/PR,  stopped doing KR.  Maybe this year Covey is just better and does KR again. 

Based on what I saw Cain do in the championship game,  I might think he's better than Quez.  There could in theory be 5 WRs on the 90 who are better than Quez.  Maybe not. 

I think Cain has a better resume for practice squad than in earlier years.  I think the championship mvp thing + KR TDs helps his resume.  You don't want a lot of players coming up from practice squad because that means that something happened probably not good. 

Herbert is overrated (so far) He is still a blue chip prospect, not a great QB.

• He lost to 5-11 Carolina 21-16 with a pick and a fumble.
• He lost to 5-11 Denver 31-30 with 2 picks.
• He lost to 10-6 Miami 29-21 with a pick and 186 yards passing.
• He lost to 12-5 Dallas 20-17 with 2 picks.
• He lost to 8-9 Minny 27-20 with a pick (clearly outplayed by Cousins (109.5 rating))
• He lost to 7-10 Denver 28-13 with 2 picks
• He lost to 4-13 Houston 41-29 with 2 picks. It was a 17-15 game after 3 quarters.
• He lost the biggest game of his career to Carr and the Raiders in part due to a free 3 points to the Raiders on a pick inside his own 30.

 

He's not a victim. He deserves his 25-24 record and his always outside the top 10 passer ratings. A better QB would be 28-21 or better.

If he outplayed Cousins in 2021 he goes to the playoffs. Bad D, weird O-line, coaching, etc. He still had the playoffs within reach and failed.

Ekeler, Allen, and Williams scored 77 TDs in those 3 years with 7400+ receiving and 2356 rushing at 4.5 a pop . His weapons were awesome.

 

You pay him because its expected that he takes that next step but the need to pretend he already has is weird IMO.

I have been ruthless on Quez for his clueless fumble on MNF and his horrific drop in the SB. That being said he had a 647 yard season at 15 a pop and 10.4 a target with a QB just learning how to be an NFL passer. By all accounts he has worked his butt off this offseason. He's way better than any rando nobody until that guy steps up big time.

2 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

I have been ruthless on Quez for his clueless fumble on MNF and his horrific drop in the SB. That being said he had a 647 yard season at 15 a pop and 10.4 a target with a QB just learning how to be an NFL passer. By all accounts he has worked his butt off this offseason. He's way better than any rando nobody until that guy steps up big time.

Plus he's a 97 speed on Madden! 

Holistic guy here

Micro dose Carolina Reaper hot sauce for an immune boost. Pair it with Oregano Oil and Raw Garlic for a trio that's an ass kicker against bad guys.

Herbert seems like the most likely candidate to be the Philip Rivers of this generation - Elite talent, ton of production, great intangibles, but not expected to win big.

With Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and Lawrence in the same conference, I guess somebody has to be the one outside looking in.

God help the AFC if somehow Caleb Williams ends up there.