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EMB Blog: 2023 Camps and Preseason - NO POLITICS

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2 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I haven't been in a pool since I had the one in my back yard filled in... so, 2000 or 2001 (maybe 1999?). It's been a while lol. 

C'mon down to my condo in NC! Break that streak with some good drinks!

And cougars 😎

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48 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Watching highlights of 95 eagles cowboys, and 1st qtr up in the booth Madden And summeral and all the sudden a high pitched voice says.

This new rule where they're protecting the quarterbacks is ridiculous.

Summeral days thanks for visiting the booth iron Mike good luck this weekend...

Mike Tyson up in the booth back in 95 whining about the QB rules....😄

I'm not sure if it's nostalgia hitting but man, when old highlights show up and it's Madden/Summeral or even the old ESPN crew of Joe Theismann, Mike Patrick and Paul McGuire I just miss the way the game used to sound. It was different and it was better. 

This Eagles team has a very strong window for the next two or three years.  My only real concerns are:

1) how lucky we got on the health front last season (I’m not trying to put a jinx or the whammy on our team, but the odds say we are in for a worse situation this year…or any year, really)

2) how this team deals with the Super Bowl hangover/success factor.  I am really only afraid of the hangover affect because history has shown that it’s real.  If Hurts is who I think he is character wise, than this will be less of a concern.

Just stay healthy 

2 hours ago, hputenis said:

Correct!  If the hips are as stiff as Ringo's dingo, I always say.........

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8 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

If they are having Jalen Hurts protection conversation the same as always, I am greatly discouraged that they learned nothing from last year.  They need to have that conversation with urgency.  Any game he carries the ball more than a dozen times is a massive coaching fail for this season.  And even putting the mark at 12 is too high for my comfortability.  

Disagree.    Running QBs are best. 

4 minutes ago, McMVP said:

This Eagles team has a very strong window for the next two or three years.  My only real concerns are:

1) how lucky we got on the health front last season (I’m not trying to put a jinx or the whammy on our team, but the odds say we are in for a worse situation this year…or any year, really)

2) how this team deals with the Super Bowl hangover/success factor.  I am really only afraid of the hangover affect because history has shown that it’s real.  If Hurts is who I think he is character wise, than this will be less of a concern.

Just stay healthy 

I kind of eluded to this the other day. Agree 100%, their window is the next 2 years with the veterans on the team and the way contracts are laid out. However, given Hurts age and hopeful progression, I think it's imperative that the Eagles make moves that can benefit the current and future success windows.

As good as Hurts was last year, his weapons certainly aided in that. The Eagles absolutely cannot afford to not restock the cupboard at WR/TE. They need to make sure they lock up DeVonta Smith and figure out what's next for AJ Brown and Dallas Goedert (in 2 years that is). If they can't afford to keep both WR, they need to draft another stud in 2024. They also need to find a competent TE2 to groom. The guys on the roster now are more JAGgy than anything.

On defense, making a move for Patrick Queen makes the most sense IMO. I think the price to acquire and extend is the least when comparing to Lavonte David and Buddah Baker. I also think they are going to ride it out with budget contracts at safety with hopes that Blankenship and Brown are the real deal.

Jalen Hurts will only be 27 when their first window has "closed". Keep him here, keep him happy and give him playmakers as far as the eye can see.

7 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

 

Nolan Smith has a 1.47 10 split. 
 

rare speed

25 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I kind of eluded to this the other day. Agree 100%, their window is the next 2 years with the veterans on the team and the way contracts are laid out. However, given Hurts age and hopeful progression, I think it's imperative that the Eagles make moves that can benefit the current and future success windows.

As good as Hurts was last year, his weapons certainly aided in that. The Eagles absolutely cannot afford to not restock the cupboard at WR/TE. They need to make sure they lock up DeVonta Smith and figure out what's next for AJ Brown and Dallas Goedert (in 2 years that is). If they can't afford to keep both WR, they need to draft another stud in 2024. They also need to find a competent TE2 to groom. The guys on the roster now are more JAGgy than anything.

On defense, making a move for Patrick Queen makes the most sense IMO. I think the price to acquire and extend is the least when comparing to Lavonte David and Buddah Baker. I also think they are going to ride it out with budget contracts at safety with hopes that Blankenship and Brown are the real deal.

Jalen Hurts will only be 27 when their first window has "closed". Keep him here, keep him happy and give him playmakers as far as the eye can see.

Far easier to do when be is on a rookie contract

now you mist invest premium draft picks and hit on them

7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Far easier to do when be is on a rookie contract

now you mist invest premium draft picks and hit on them

Which is pretty much the model for any team that has a QB worth extending past their rookie deal.  

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Far easier to do when be is on a rookie contract

now you mist invest premium draft picks and hit on them

Yep and figuring out the right time to let someone walk while having a viable replacement. It will be interesting to see how they handle the young CB on the team. A few years back they kept upwards of 9 CB on the team at one point and none of them had the talent that the young guys have now. They have a bunch of 6-1/6-2 elite athletes that I think they will keep around with the hopes 2 of them pan out and can take over for Slay/Bradberry for pennies on the dollar. 

4 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

There have been some TE takes this year. Gowton has Dan Arnold making the team over Calcaterra.

ESP said Tyree Jackson is one of the 5 most talented TEs in the NFL.

 

As an aside, I don't know if Dean will make a big splash at camp, but he was so Fing good in college, I still think despite his size it would be an upset if he wasn't good in the NFL. He was a flat out superstar in college. He did everything well.

I definitely want the Eagles to keep Tyree Jackson.   Goedert is the starter and a star.  Tyree has a higher ras than any other Eagle TE,  has rare tallness, and should be good at TE by this point.  Hopefully stays healthy.   Very tall pass catcher reminds of Harold Carmichael.

Tyree vs Dallas ras compare te
https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=18964&p2=15636&pos=TE   

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not sure if it's nostalgia hitting but man, when old highlights show up and it's Madden/Summeral or even the old ESPN crew of Joe Theismann, Mike Patrick and Paul McGuire I just miss the way the game used to sound. It was different and it was better. 

Yup it was, QBs were treated like football players not crystal ballerina's, and WRs feared safety's over the middle 

Now WRs do whatever they want all game and QBs play til they're 45 years old because everytime they get sneezed on it's a penalty.

I'm all for player safety and all but seems the league used player safety to justify putting in rules that handcuff defenses to promote high flying high scoring to keep the fans engaged.

I'll take a 10-6 defensive battle over a 45-42 air show.

Those big scores  used to be fun because they were the exception now they're so common place it's almost boring...

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not sure if it's nostalgia hitting but man, when old highlights show up and it's Madden/Summeral or even the old ESPN crew of Joe Theismann, Mike Patrick and Paul McGuire I just miss the way the game used to sound. It was different and it was better. 

Too bad they can't be viewed enjoyably on screens bigger than 13 inches. 

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I hear ya, but Tim Tebow had that in college too.

won a playoff game as a starting QB,  then lost one,  then never started another game in the NFL at QB.

Can't really say that Tebow wasn't clutch.

1 hour ago, Iggles25 said:

C'mon down to my condo in NC! Break that streak with some good drinks!

And cougars 😎

So bout 10 years ago I lived in an apartment in CA, SF to be exact, and we had a pool and one day it was real hot so I thought I'd jump in, I don't think I got a drop of water on me I was out so fast, the water was freezing.

Word of warning pools in CA are not heated and just above freezing.

We were in a condo in Utah that had a pool it and it was heated, wasn't hot by any means but wasnt freezing either, my kids really liked it.

Now out here in KS we have the Y.

YMCA out here are actually nicer than your average Y because they're all under the Koch name as they make big donations to local Y and girls and boys club, sadly local pool still not free of foot funguses☹️

 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Every photo shoot of him in a Jets uniform looks like a dad Cosplaying an NFL QB

Doesn't help for some unknown reason they gave him a kickers facemask for the throwback photos

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:ph34r:

1 hour ago, McMVP said:

This Eagles team has a very strong window for the next two or three years.  My only real concerns are:

1) how lucky we got on the health front last season (I’m not trying to put a jinx or the whammy on our team, but the odds say we are in for a worse situation this year…or any year, really)

2) how this team deals with the Super Bowl hangover/success factor.  I am really only afraid of the hangover affect because history has shown that it’s real.  If Hurts is who I think he is character wise, than this will be less of a concern.

Just stay healthy 

SB Hangover is overstated IMO. There are 3 very different type of SB teams. The all-in and then bust teams, the end of a run teams, and the well built teams.

The Rams had a massive hangover because they rented players, sold draft picks, and mortgaged the future. That is hangover by design.

The 2002 Raiders were built similarly with Eric Allen, Rod Woodson, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown. Romanowski, etc. It was last hurrahs all around. Even Gannon was turning 38.

 

This Eagles team is more like the 2020 and on Chiefs, 90's Bills, 80s Broncos, 2001-2004 Eagles, or the 2017 Patriots. They are built well and still hungry. They did just about everything right to stay in position to not only contend but to be conference favorites.

 

2005 sucked but a lot of it was on 2 things. First, McNabb got a cheap shot vs Atlanta that worsened an already hurting abdominal strain. Second, TO and McNabb were both infants. Its not like a 4-5 start with McNabb was atypical. They were 2-3, 3-2, and 3-3 to start 2001-2003. He just could not help them right the ship because his core was busted.

2018 was mostly on the wrong QB and Foles eventually righted that ship again. They were an Alshon blunder from a possible NFCCG return.

I know the Eagles started out 9-2 in 1981 before losing 4 of 5 and then getting the Wally Henry treatment in the Wildcard game.  I don't know what happened in December but its not a hangover if it starts with 9-2.

 

I'm not saying this is going to be a magical 8-0 start again but this team is loaded. They might be better than last year even if they win 12 or 13 games instead of 14.

3 hours ago, Iggles25 said:

Who else is day drinking by the pool on a Thursday?!

Start of training camp ritual.

That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.

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I’ll be swimming laps in a pool on Thursday. Drinks come later, when I celebrate not drowning.🫨🐳

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Every photo shoot of him in a Jets uniform looks like a dad Cosplaying an NFL QB

Doesn't help for some unknown reason they gave him a kickers facemask for the throwback photos

Image

 

Perfect timing for an analogy.

Twitter was a really nice pool. Musk was a parade of 50 elephants dropping turds in that pool.

He accomplished 3 things after buying Twitter.

  • He alienated his employees by being a company-devaluing toxic PoS.
  • He alienated his user base and advertisers with stupid policies.
  • He alienated the public with unhinged and inappropriate rants like the head of Twitter actually telling everyone how to vote right before an election.

This would be like on the old EMB if Dave Spadaro bought the site, started firing mods, allowed cursing, racism, and politics in the blog, and started yelling at us to vote Dem or Green party or Libertarian or something.

 

If it turns out that losing a bunch of money on Twitter actually helps his tax status in some way then this would start to make sense. (see Uwe Boll movies)

Just now, SkippyX said:

Perfect timing for an analogy.

Twitter was a really nice pool. Musk was a parade of 50 elephants dropping turds in that pool.

He accomplished 3 things after buying Twitter.

  • He alienated his employees by being a company-devaluing toxic PoS.
  • He alienated his user base and advertisers with stupid policies.
  • He alienated the public with unhinged and inappropriate rants like the head of Twitter actually telling everyone how to vote right before an election.

This would be like on the old EMB if Dave Spadaro bought the site, started firing mods, allowed cursing, racism, and politics in the blog, and started yelling at us to vote Dem or Green party or Libertarian or something.

 

If it turns out that losing a bunch of money on Twitter actually helps his tax status in some way then this would start to make sense. (see Uwe Boll movies)

 

Alienated his employees?  He very intentionally laid them off.  Just as the rest of the big tech companies quietly did after Musk.  

Taylor's agent :ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

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