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EMB Blog: 2023 Camps and Preseason - NO POLITICS

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2 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Yes it is embarrassing for you and your clone.  You're dying on a hill for Ryan f'n Tannehill.  Who if you even watched him at any point of his entire career is an at best mid level journeyman.

So the problem with you is you are living in a delusional reality where you think you are in charge of that reality.

I'm thriving on this hill where every result and statistic backs me and anyone with a clue 100%

You are pretending because you can never be wrong. The problem is that everyone knows you are wrong. Toast can like you being wrong all day if he wants.

 

I'm wrong often. I can admit it and learn. I learn from people here most days. I adjust my opinion based on reality and move on.

Look up Dunning Kruger Effect if you like. It may explain how the more evidence you see about Tannehill as a good NFL QB you just dig in more that he is not good.

 

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If I had a nickel for every time someone brought up the Fing Dunning Kruger effect on this damn board I'd have like...a bunch of nickels by now.

On 8/21/2023 at 3:51 PM, mattwill said:

Okay, which player are you keeping over Goodrich?  Why?

Which player are you keeping over Garner?  Why?

The devil is on the details.

What has Garner showed you that would make him more valuable than a backup outside WR like Ngata?

15 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

So the problem with you is you are living in a delusional reality where you think you are in charge of that reality.

I'm thriving on this hill where every result and statistic backs me and anyone with a clue 100%

You are pretending because you can never be wrong. The problem is that everyone knows you are wrong. Toast can like you being wrong all day if he wants.

 

I'm wrong often. I can admit it and learn. I learn from people here most days. I adjust my opinion based on reality and move on.

Look up Dunning Kruger Effect if you like. It may explain how the more evidence you see about Tannehill as a good NFL QB you just dig in more that he is not good.

 

Yet you can't here.

2019 Tennessee Titans 15 15 303 1540 5.1 16 18 206 11.4 75 2 5 3
2020 Tennessee Titans 16 16 378 2027 5.4 17 19 114 6 53 0 3

And once again, the off season coming off an AFCCG Championship loss they tried to replace him, which was 2019.  His first 'elite year'.

5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If I had a nickel for every time someone brought up the Fing Dunning Kruger effect on this damn board I'd have like...a bunch of nickels by now.

Do you have a change jar? You might already have a bunch of nickels.

Fred Johnson has been the hot new name among beats to make the 53. They all had similar phrasing too which makes it seem like it might be a legit source.

Just now, Wentz_Era said:

Yet you can't here.

2019 Tennessee Titans 15 15 303 1540 5.1 16 18 206 11.4 75 2 5 3
2020 Tennessee Titans 16 16 378 2027 5.4 17 19 114 6 53 0 3

And once again, the off season coming off an AFCCG Championship loss they tried to replace him.  

This is kinda fun how bad you are at this. (I know the concept of time is difficult for some but being off by 36 months is something else)

First, they did not bring in a replace Tannehill QB in 2020 after that 2019 AFCCG. Mariota left and they drafted Logan Woodside in round 7. 🤣

Mariota spent 2 years in Vegas and 1 in Atlanta. I was both aware of reality and was able to double check this.

The next year was Woodside again or some 2016 draft journeyman scrub 

After the 2021 season in the 2022 draft they took a possible 1st round QB project who fell to round 3. He was awful. No way was he 2021 competition.

In the 2023 draft which is now 40 months after that 2019 AFCCG they finally spent an early 2nd round pick on a QB with Tannehill at age 35 and on an expiring contract.

 

 

 

John Elway had Tommy Maddox in round 1 of 1992

Joe Montana had Steve Young in 1987

Brett Favre had Aaron Rodgers in round 1 in 2005.

Tom Brady had Jimmy G in 2014.

Which one of those guys was a journeyman bad QB/scrub?

 

Your arguments are like nesting dolls of foolishness. There are so many layers to destroy.

 

27 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

What has Garner showed you that would make him more valuable than a backup outside WR like Ngata?

I’m not choosing between them.  I’m keeping them both.

43 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

What has Garner showed you that would make him more valuable than a backup outside WR like Ngata?

We very rarely lose PS WRs and we very rarely have trouble getting them to the PS. I actually think we can waive Garner and Ngata at the final cuts and get both players back on our PS. 

Albert Breer from Eagles practice on Carter:

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1. Jalen Carter had his way with Indianapolis’s offensive linemen during the joint practice, which the Eagles see, in part, as a result of getting to go against Philadelphia’s line every day. The No. 9 overall pick’s combination of strength and quickness is rare, to be sure. But it’s not like that was a secret before the draft—everyone knew how good he was. Most of the questions came off the field, and where Philly deserves credit here is for having the kind of infrastructure in place, and specifically in their locker room, where they roll the dice on someone like Carter. It’s also helped Carter to have four of his Georgia teammates on hand. And all that is why Philly was probably the ideal place for the mercurial defensive lineman to land.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/23/eagles-camp-takeaways-jalen-carter

7 hours ago, NYEagle said:

Yet we won a Super Bowl with a RB rotation of Blount, Clement and Ajayi.......all played a part, none of them were a lead back but without each of them, don't think we have the season or outcome we did.  The days of Jim Brown are gone......better to have multiple guys (on cheap contracts) in my opinion.  Which, by the way, they do.  I'm feeling good about Gainwell, Swift, Penny and Scott.  As long as Scott only plays in the Giants games lmao

I think the guys we had during the Super Bowl run in 2017 had some name recognition though. Both Ajayi and Blount were lead backs at various points in their career. Heck, Ajayi was one year removed from the pro bowl when we got him. Most people thought we had a loaded backfield after the Ajayi trade.

I don’t think the days of the lead back are gone. There are going to be handful of RBs that are going to be run into the ground by a desperate coach. Jacobs and Henry are the obvious examples from last year. I expect Bijan to have a LOT of touches early in his career. It’s just such an easy out for a coach who doesn’t have a lot of talent on his offense to give a stud RB 20+ touches a game.

I absolutely agree that I’d rather have multiple backs though. Spread the risk, less money, marginally lower talent. Both Penny and Swift have pro bowl level talent. Gainwell is a good young player. Scott is going to beat the Giants. Sermon looked good after the fumble last game. "We’re fine there.”

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

We very rarely lose PS WRs and we very rarely have trouble getting them to the PS. I actually think we can waive Garner and Ngata at the final cuts and get both players back on our PS. 

Yup. Every team in the league has their own bottom-of-the-roster receivers that they'd like to keep and will want to get to their own practice squads. There's no reason to think ours are any better than theirs and will be immediately snapped up.

The Eagles have two outstanding starting WRs.  They have an interesting and inconsistent deep threat in Watkins who would easily make most other rosters.  Every other WR is easily safe on the PS.

8 hours ago, SkippyX said:

So the problem with you is you are living in a delusional reality where you think you are in charge of that reality.

I'm thriving on this hill where every result and statistic backs me and anyone with a clue 100%

You are pretending because you can never be wrong. The problem is that everyone knows you are wrong. Toast can like you being wrong all day if he wants.

 

I'm wrong often. I can admit it and learn. I learn from people here most days. I adjust my opinion based on reality and move on.

Look up Dunning Kruger Effect if you like. It may explain how the more evidence you see about Tannehill as a good NFL QB you just dig in more that he is not good.

 

Good god you are dumb. The irony of you citing Dunning Kruger is galactic in scale.

10 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

Nice to see who's a clone of who.  Also, the fact that you and your other account can't use basic reading comprehension is kinda funny.  Hurts far exceeded expectations last year and was a legit MVP candidate, something Tanny has never been or will even ever come close to.  Part of what made Marvin Harrison and Jerry Rice so f'n good was the timing and anticipation routes that Peyton and Montana were absolutely deadly with.  Imagine Smith with the ball in his hands not juking off the rip and using his insane game sense and agility.

Ironic...

YOU:

" Also, the fact that you and your other account can't use basic reading comprehension is kinda funny."

" Hurts far exceeded expectations last year and was a legit MVP candidate, something Tanny has never been or will even ever come close to."

 

ME:

"By that logic, Hurts only had success because he has one of the best 1-2 WR duos in the NFL and rode a nearly all-time record setting defense (in sacks) 

So is your opinion of Tanny the same now? Like stated before, Tanny was playing at a high level in 2020...33 TDs / 7 ints. Funny enough, he ALSO had AJ Brown"

 

It appears YOUR reading comprehension is either decaying or severely lacking. You used my exact point as a counter-argument 🤡

Hurts has to do it again n to prove he's better than Tannehill cuz he did didn't even beat out Tanny's best year as a passer. 

Judging from your pfp you're too busy chocking on Hurts to think objectively

 

6 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yup. Every team in the league has their own bottom-of-the-roster receivers that they'd like to keep and will want to get to their own practice squads. There's no reason to think ours are any better than theirs and will be immediately snapped up.

 

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

The Eagles have two outstanding starting WRs.  They have an interesting and inconsistent deep threat in Watkins who would easily make most other rosters.  Every other WR is easily safe on the PS.

When you lose a couple coordinators like we did after last season, it is possible that an opportunity opens up for them to get a player they are familiar with that they may feel can help their new team in some way. But other than that, poaching isn't very likely. With the URFAs, all the teams passed on these guys in the draft --- it's unlikely for them to use a valuable roster spot at a time when they are making their own tough decisions with players they are vested in. If any of our players end up getting signed to another team's practice squad, we can always bring them back later if injuries make room on the roster. 

8 hours ago, SkippyX said:

This is kinda fun how bad you are at this. (I know the concept of time is difficult for some but being off by 36 months is something else)

First, they did not bring in a replace Tannehill QB in 2020 after that 2019 AFCCG. Mariota left and they drafted Logan Woodside in round 7. 🤣

Mariota spent 2 years in Vegas and 1 in Atlanta. I was both aware of reality and was able to double check this.

The next year was Woodside again or some 2016 draft journeyman scrub 

After the 2021 season in the 2022 draft they took a possible 1st round QB project who fell to round 3. He was awful. No way was he 2021 competition.

In the 2023 draft which is now 40 months after that 2019 AFCCG they finally spent an early 2nd round pick on a QB with Tannehill at age 35 and on an expiring contract.

 

 

 

Not sure why some people can't give props to other teams players...

Tannehill was solid, especially in the years you mentioned...he was in the MVP race (if not leading it) at points during 2020

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Derek Barnett is finally going to reach up to his Reggie White ceiling with the power of positivity!

Ok... well now you've just taken it to the ridiculous.   Positivity dies under the ridicule of sarcasm.

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Can Fred Johnson be an ok backup for a couple of games? If so, then we're suddenly insolated a little at OT. He has the size to be a LT. He also started football late, which does explain how he could be a late-bloomer.

I was encouraged with what I saw in pre-season.

In your face Daniel Jones

 

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

In your face Daniel Jones

 

I heard 13 lbs of muscle and two inches to his hand size.

27 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

In your face Daniel Jones

 

Those hands look enormous too. 

I think Pickett will have a good season.  He won't be as exciting as Burrow or Jackson, but he's going to be a solid NFL QB, IMO.  

9 hours ago, TEW said:

I think the guys we had during the Super Bowl run in 2017 had some name recognition though. Both Ajayi and Blount were lead backs at various points in their career. Heck, Ajayi was one year removed from the pro bowl when we got him. Most people thought we had a loaded backfield after the Ajayi trade.

I don’t think the days of the lead back are gone. There are going to be handful of RBs that are going to be run into the ground by a desperate coach. Jacobs and Henry are the obvious examples from last year. I expect Bijan to have a LOT of touches early in his career. It’s just such an easy out for a coach who doesn’t have a lot of talent on his offense to give a stud RB 20+ touches a game.

I absolutely agree that I’d rather have multiple backs though. Spread the risk, less money, marginally lower talent. Both Penny and Swift have pro bowl level talent. Gainwell is a good young player. Scott is going to beat the Giants. Sermon looked good after the fumble last game. "We’re fine there.”

Every single back on the Eagles was a draft choice except Brooks.  The fact the Eagles only spent draft capital on Gainwell but pro scouted and college scouted the remainder, who other teams spent draft capital on, doesn’t suggest a lack of value but rather suggests the Eagles have talent and depth at the position.  The Eagles have platooned at the position most every season that they could.  Ajayi had injury risk because of his knees but could and did platoon with Blount.  Platooning and depth are preferable to lead back.

Henry is a great example of why "lead back” is a mistake.  When the team relies too heavily on a RB and that RB goes down, the offense suffers because the backups just aren’t good enough. RBs are wrong that the NFL doesn’t value the position.  They do, at the right price and durability factors into the price but so does a resistance to overvalue the position because of the toll the position takes on the body.  WRs and DBs aren’t getting hit every play.  DL and OL are having contact but not necessarily impact.  But LBs and RBs are getting impact at speed and that’s hard on durability.  

27 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Those hands look enormous too. 

I think Pickett will have a good season.  He won't be as exciting as Burrow or Jackson, but he's going to be a solid NFL QB, IMO.  

New gloves.

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