5 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

So in hindsight I guess our moves to start last year (adding Book and Robinson) were completely pointless. Neither one is making the real roster this year. 

Sermon too 

@Connecticut Eagle

When does the season Blog open?

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Ugh Siposs

Eye test again says this guy is trash and just inconsistent. He can hold somewhere else. He certainly didn't earn the job this preseason and really needed to dominate in my mind.

15 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 

If you change Richardson's name to Mariota, fans would be livid right now from that same performance. 

I think you can say that about a lot of guys.  People see what they want often.  Richardson is early enough that we could be watching Tebow or Josh Allen there. Reality is most guys don't develop so we'll see.

Out of bubble guys, after tonight I am on Team Ricks, Morrow, T. Jackson & Allen. Like the energy and swag they all bring as a bonus. 

McNabb did a lot for this team. I wish he did more but he's either HoVG or one of those senior committee guys who gets in late. Good for him of he does.

He was not a QB who helped WRs with their statistics.

He used RB passes a lot.

He used TEs a lot.

He was not Mr. Accuracy in general and he was dreadful for a WCO QB hovering around 59% completions.

• Garcia 61.9
• Montana 63.2
• Young 65.8
• Grbac 59.1
• Gannon in Oakland 62.6
• Favre 62.0
• Hasselbeck 60.5
• Rodney Peete in Philly 57.4 (just about the worst longish term WCO QB I can think of)
• 33 to 38 year old career 54.7% at that point Elway in Fassel's and Shanahan's WCOs 60.0% 

Completion % is how that offense is supposed to run and it was McNabb's weakness. Its why there were too many of those 10-7 games .

He did avoid lots of regular season picks but he did that by not giving his WRs some of those 50/50 chances. (sometimes good fr the team but its hard to gain yards when your QB does not throw you the ball. In the playoffs he was around that same 59% (59.1) but with lots more picks.

 

So take a guy like Reggie Brown and pad his stats by 10 to 20% and that's what he'd get with a Stafford type of WR friendly QB throwing him the ball or an efficient WCO guy.

816 and 8 goes to about 980 and 10. None of them are great but almost all of them are better than what McNabb got out of them.

You can't find many or any WRs who have their best years with McNabb. You could with Foles (DJ and Cooper in 2013)

Guys like Charles Johnson, Thrash, DJ, Curtis, and TO never peaked their catch % and yards per target with McNabb.

 

The one thing in common with all of McNabb's WRs was McNabb. We did not invent the worm burner.

McNabb tackling a wide open Hank Baskett in the 2008 NFCCG with a shoelace level throw for no reason was a great example of his lack of accuracy.

Stop blaming 20 different WRs and put the blame where it belongs. He was still a very good player even if he held back his WRs from peak performance.

19 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Out of bubble guys, after tonight I am on Team Ricks, Morrow, T. Jackson & Allen. Like the energy and swag they all bring as a bonus. 

 

No way they cut Ricks. Tyree Jackson>Calcaterra.

I like this late Tyree Jackson push.

It felt like if Goedert was not on the field then we did not have an NFL TE last year.

If Jackson can be a competent receiver like old Celek or 2002-2004 Chad Lewis then I am happy with that position.

I will of course get greedy and want more out of him next year but baby steps for now.

 

 

 

 

We knew Richardson was raw but I don't remember a QB as allergic to the football as him before.

He can't hold a football. He can't throw a football without it slipping out of his hands.

He looks like some guy from a small village in Asia that they just showed him a football for the first time last week and he's still not sure what to do with it.

 

I know Minshew can be the king of fumbles but you usually have to actually hit him to make him fumble.

6 hours ago, SkippyX said:

We knew Richardson was raw but I don't remember a QB as allergic to the football as him before.

He can't hold a football. He can't throw a football without it slipping out of his hands.

He looks like some guy from a small village in Asia that they just showed him a football for the first time last week and he's still not sure what to do with it.

 

I know Minshew can be the king of fumbles but you usually have to actually hit him to make him fumble.

F it. Mariota for Richardson straight up

I fell asleep at haltime. Assuming that i missed nothing…

Still laughing about AR doing the eagle flap after scoring on the 3rd team 😂

The NFL officially has it's new Cam Newton

I can't remember the last time we had this many solid outside CBs. Eli Ricks can play. 

OL worries me a lot more. Our backups really struggled against their starters. Now that's to be expected, but Steen in particular was rough. He's not ready for RG. He might be ready in the 2nd half of the year. I'm less worried about Fred Johnson. Dennis Kelly is done. 

7 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Box score numbers to the rescue.  He's around the ball a lot.   He's not making plays though.  He's tackling guys down field.  That's not impressive for a LB.

ended up with 17 tackles.  That's well beyond any record pace.  Tackles are good.

You can use any sort of rhetoric to try to explain away lots of tackles which are good,  but 17x17 - 289.  He only played about 3/4s of the game.   the record number of tackles combined in a season is 214 by Hardy Nickerson in 1993.

You seem to want outcomes that are contradicted by data.   McKee had a completion percentage for the 3 games of under 55%.  In no way is that great.  2 field goals in a half is not great.  Long field goals, the Eagles got into the red zone once when McKee was in there today, and Ngata quickly fumbled.    Ian Book went in, and started 9/9.  He finished the preseason with the highest completion percentage.  Mariota was in the middle.  

Tyree Jackson had, for the 2nd straight week,  McKee's biggest pass play.  He had the biggest pass play of the game and the preseason last week,  35 yards, from McKee. Today the 20 yard pass from McKee was McKees longest pass play.  Tyree has been the best pass catcher of the last 2 preseason games, and maybe, with Greg Ward, overall.   5 catches, 7 targets, 72 yards, with 2 explosive plays of 35 and 20.  That's over 10 yards per target.  Highest yards per target on the Eagles this preseason.

6 hours ago, SkippyX said:

I like this late Tyree Jackson push.

It felt like if Goedert was not on the field then we did not have an NFL TE last year.

If Jackson can be a competent receiver like old Celek or 2002-2004 Chad Lewis then I am happy with that position.

I will of course get greedy and want more out of him next year but baby steps for now.

 

 

 

 

Someone is going to take this the wrong way and think I'm saying Tyree Jackson is the next Jimmy Graham, but watching him last night reminded me of Jimmy Graham. His size, the way he moved or maybe it was just the jersey number?  Either way, Jackson looked like an NFL tight end last night and an NFL tight end that could present matchup issues. He looked like a guy that could be a QBs security blanket and be fed the ball. Calcaterra has shown he's more of an H-Back IMO.

34 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I fell asleep at haltime. Assuming that i missed nothing…

You missed Eagles LB flying around the field. VanSuremen had something like 13 tackles after halftime and #49 was all over the field with 6 tackles, 2 TFL and an INT.

7 hours ago, SkippyX said:

I like this late Tyree Jackson push.

It felt like if Goedert was not on the field then we did not have an NFL TE last year.

If Jackson can be a competent receiver like old Celek or 2002-2004 Chad Lewis then I am happy with that position.

I will of course get greedy and want more out of him next year but baby steps for now.

 

 

 

 

I felt like when Goedert was out, It just took Hurts a few games to try to involve the less familiar TEs as targets. It wasn't so much we didn't have a TE as we weren't utilizing the guys that were playing. Once he started throwing to them, I thought they were solid. I've been rooting for Jackson, but he's still just a PS guy right now to me. 

8 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Well, that was one of the worst games of football I’ve ever seen. I envy the folks who were unable to watch, and I would advise them to not even bother watching the replay during the week. 

I think Jenarius Robinson and Trey Sermon played their way off the 53 man roster. And Siposs crapped the bed on his final punt. Maybe the only bright spot was Devon Allen actually making a couple plays. 

Thankfully it looks like we avoided notable injuries.

Ugh.

VanSumeren had 17 tackles.  That's a bright spot.  They wouldn't keep track of tackles if they weren't good things.  Unless they're bad things.  If the other team is out there running, you want to tackle them, right?  VanSumeren didn't even play the whole game,  still with 17 tackles.  The single season record, tackles in a year, is 214.  214 divided by 17 is 12.58, 12.58 tackles per game is the record setting pace.  I saw him bat a pass last week,  I see a lot of blitzes that could be sacks, but are pressures,  I'm seeing special teams tackles,  a lot of good stuff there.  I also see mistakes.  He only became a starter at ILB last year.  Very fast and very strong for a LB.  Not very agile, might have trouble stopping.  But,  record pace for tackles.  A bright spot.

Tyree Jackson had 3 catches on 4 targets.  41 yards total, a 20 yard catch was McKee's longest play.  Jackson finished with the highest yards per target of the preseason. 9.8 Ras TE who was raw 2 years ago, who people hoped would develop into a TE around now has the best receiving stats.  And look at his block on the Sermon TD last week.  That's another bright spot.

8 hours ago, QuinnWR4 said:

Man, I’ve never seen a broadcast crew slobber all over a QB that completed 35% of his passes like they have with Richardson tonight. He was cheeks tonight and they’re acting like he’s the most exciting QB they’ve ever watched. 

they were sloppering over McKee, who completed fewer than 55% of his passes in the preseason.  Book ended up with the highest completion percentage.

8 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I dunno. I thought Richardson was impressive and was surprised his stat line looked pedestrian. I saw someone with special ability.

 

8 hours ago, TEW said:

Yeah, the physical gifts showed and the potential should be obvious.

He’s very raw, but the upside is there to be special.

The QB position is so desperate that teams will draft a guy top 5 that has the clay they want without having proven that he can do half of what they are projecting.  Richardson, as with Lance, has great physical traits.  But, he's not put it together on the field yet.  Neither one of them should have been drafted in the top 5 due to what they did at the NCAA level.  Teams fall in love with what they think they can make him into and overdraft.  Then, they get thrown to the wolves too soon and they rely on instinct rather than learning the position properly.  And they never become near to what their ceiling was.  We've seen it many times before.

There's no way that Richardson should be starting right now for the Colts.  He should be sitting and sucking up as many practice reps as he can, but with the focus on getting the job done properly.  Andy had it right with McNabb... with Vick... with Mahomes.  Nearly every QB that enters the NFL will benefit from sitting for a while.  Very few, if any, are truly ready to go in the NFL from the moment they enter.  They need to sit and learn before they play.  During that time, they can mature as men as much as they mature as a QB.   These guys aren't ready to be the face of the franchise.  Athletic QBs that don't have that athleticism harnessed a little and channeled differently rely more on that than they do their skills.  Steve Young stands as a prime example of an athlete that was extremely limited as a QB both in the USFL and the NFL.  He was barely capable of 50% completions... and threw more INTs than TDs.   He went to SF, learned under Walsh... was rebuilt and came out as a completely different QB.  He becomes well over a 60% passer, leads the league in passer rating 6 times... becomes the first full time starter to post a passer rating over 100 for a season.  But, he needed to learn how to play QB in the NFL, not just be a great athlete playing QB.  But that takes time.  Not many NFL coaches/GMs are willing to take that time.  And it's a shame.  As fans, we lose out on seeing what these guys could become... with proper coaching.

I fear that Richardson will follow the path of Lance, and be on the scrap heap in a few years, just as Lance is now.

4 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

VanSumeren had 17 tackles.  That's a bright spot.  They wouldn't keep track of tackles if they weren't good things.  Unless they're bad things.  If the other team is out there running, you want to tackle them, right?  VanSumeren didn't even play the whole game,  still with 17 tackles.  The single season record, tackles in a year, is 214.  214 divided by 17 is 12.58, 12.58 tackles per game is the record setting pace.  I saw him bat a pass last week,  I see a lot of blitzes that could be sacks, but are pressures,  I'm seeing special teams tackles,  a lot of good stuff there.  I also see mistakes.  He only became a starter at ILB last year.  Very fast and very strong for a LB.  Not very agile, might have trouble stopping.  But,  record pace for tackles.  A bright spot.

Tyree Jackson had 3 catches on 4 targets.  41 yards total, a 20 yard catch was McKee's longest play.  Jackson finished with the highest yards per target of the preseason. 9.8 Ras TE who was raw 2 years ago, who people hoped would develop into a TE around now has the best receiving stats.  And look at his block on the Sermon TD last week.  That's another bright spot.

Bro relax with this goofy record pace for tackles junk.

Lots of tackles can be a bad thing...I'll leave it to you, to understand why

33 minutes ago, RLC said:

I can't remember the last time we had this many solid outside CBs. Eli Ricks can play. 

OL worries me a lot more. Our backups really struggled against their starters. Now that's to be expected, but Steen in particular was rough. He's not ready for RG. He might be ready in the 2nd half of the year. I'm less worried about Fred Johnson. Dennis Kelly is done. 

The thing about the backup OL outside of Steen is that the majority of these guys have been here. They are what they are.

Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Jurgens, Johnson are your starters. Tyler Steen and Fred Johnson are locks. Johnson can apparently play across the line and Steen is T/G. Johnson is OL6.

I'm looking at 8 OL on the 53 with the PS loaded with guys who you can call up. Tyree Jackson, Eli Ricks, Devon Allen and Mario Goodrich have all earned spots on the 53. None of the backup OL have.

The 8th spot is Driscoll right now. Jurgens is your back up Center and yes, putting him at Center also brings in a RG, which isn't ideal but Jurgens is the best Center not named Kelce on the team. 

Opeta, Sills and Toth can go to the PS and they can bring in fresh blood to see if Stoutland can work magic.

Dennis Kelly and Josh Andrews can retire. They offer nothing.

Roderick Johnson is 27, Julian Good-Jones is a rookie at 26 so their upside is next to none. No need to bring them back to the PS. 

Tyrese Robinson, didn't know you exist. 

8 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I dunno. I thought Richardson was impressive and was surprised his stat line looked pedestrian. I saw someone with special ability.

I think that incomplete, incomplete, 11 yard run is something that could move the chains.  Great arm too.  Really tall players are often faster than they look, long strides and all, deceptively fast.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The thing about the backup OL outside of Steen is that the majority of these guys have been here. They are what they are.

Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Jurgens, Johnson are your starters. Tyler Steen and Fred Johnson are locks. Johnson can apparently play across the line and Steen is T/G. Johnson is OL6.

I'm looking at 8 OL on the 53 with the PS loaded with guys who you can call up. Tyree Jackson, Eli Ricks, Devon Allen and Mario Goodrich have all earned spots on the 53. None of the backup OL have.

The 8th spot is Driscoll right now. Jurgens is your back up Center and yes, putting him at Center also brings in a RG, which isn't ideal but Jurgens is the best Center not named Kelce on the team. 

Opeta, Sills and Toth can go to the PS and they can bring in fresh blood to see if Stoutland can work magic.

Dennis Kelly and Josh Andrews can retire. They offer nothing.

Roderick Johnson is 27, Julian Good-Jones is a rookie at 26 so their upside is next to none. No need to bring them back to the PS. 

Tyrese Robinson, didn't know you exist. 

I'd be surprised if Driscoll wasn't the guy that was OL6.  He's certainly got the most experience of the three (him, Johnson and Steen) and has the most time in the system.