Monday at 08:10 PM3 days 52 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Once again define " better". The running game got going with TothAsked and answered. The apples to apples comparison is 2024 Cam to this current Toth. In that comparison, the 2024 running game is better, and Cam is better.Younger, better physical measurables, more experience.
Monday at 08:12 PM3 days 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:believe this was Barks first week over 100 yards?(I mean THIS season before I get hammered on a technicality)Yup first game for Saquon this season to reach over 100 yards…. And we even ended up getting Tank over 100 yards rushing in the same game.
Monday at 08:39 PM3 days 3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Actually Toth weighs 1 pound MORE than Cam as shown on the roster and maybe it's coincidence, but we got our ground game back this week(or maybe there is more to this) I won't speculate, but it seems noteworthy to meOne thing you can be sure of with TothHe has self discipline The Army tends to do that to you
Monday at 08:53 PM3 days 3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Actually Toth weighs 1 pound MORE than Cam as shown on the roster and maybe it's coincidence, but we got our ground game back this week(or maybe there is more to this) I won't speculate, but it seems noteworthy to me Could have been the terrible Gmen run D for decades have been a factor?
Monday at 09:03 PM3 days 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:No,the fact they are the same size is,for those who say Toth is "too small". And the "noteworthy" part is that the running game was successful with TothYeah... watching the game it was all Toth...lol. Just kidding ... but I will say... using a 6th OL...Fred Johnson, was a great way to counter the defense putting extra men on the line. Or... maybe they made that one block that Mailata was talking about? Or.. maybe it was the Giants?
Monday at 09:06 PM3 days 11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:Could have been the terrible Gmen run D for decades have been a factor?Could be both of their best cover guys were out...that's why the QB had good stats... you see what I did there. Which btw... I agree that the Giants defense played a factor in the success of both the running and passing games. But also I will give the Eagles credit.
Monday at 09:26 PM3 days 4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Actually Toth weighs 1 pound MORE than Cam as shown on the roster and maybe it's coincidence, but we got our ground game back this week(or maybe there is more to this) I won't speculate, but it seems noteworthy to meToth didn't take a dump prior to that weigh-in.
Monday at 09:36 PM3 days 1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:Didn’t really notice but who was CB2 this week maybe becuase they weren’t getting beat like a drum every snap lolPercentage of snaps played:Ringo-81%Nickerson-15%McWilliams-13%I can't help but wonder how different it may have been had Giants' WR Nabers played.
Monday at 09:45 PM3 days 3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:This is what I mean,is Toth a better C than Cam? Did we stumble onto something? Was it a one of? IDK, I won't speculate, but it just seems "interesting". Also Cam may not have been at 100% for quite some time. We'll know more after the byeToo early to tell.
Monday at 10:08 PM3 days Author 1 hour ago, mattwill said:Asked and answered. The apples to apples comparison is 2024 Cam to this current Toth. In that comparison, the 2024 running game is better, and Cam is better.Younger, better physical measurables, more experience.Not really, we also had Becton at RG. Put Becton next to Toth if you want apples to apples
Monday at 10:09 PM3 days Author 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:Could have been the terrible Gmen run D for decades have been a factor?Then how did we get blown out 2 weeks ago?
Monday at 10:10 PM3 days Author 1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:One thing you can be sure of with TothHe has self discipline The Army tends to do that to youHe at least solidified(for me) that we need to keep him around
Monday at 10:10 PM3 days 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Not really, we also had Becton at RG. Put Becton next to Toth if you want apples to applesFair enough.
Monday at 10:11 PM3 days Author 1 hour ago, joemas6 said:Yeah... watching the game it was all Toth...lol.Just kidding ... but I will say... using a 6th OL...Fred Johnson, was a great way to counter the defense putting extra men on the line.Or... maybe they made that one block that Mailata was talking about?Or.. maybe it was the Giants?I said I wasn't going to speculate,but that I found it interesting. That's all I said
Monday at 10:12 PM3 days Author 45 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:Toth didn't take a dump prior to that weigh-in.No sheet 🤣
Monday at 10:13 PM3 days Author 36 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:Percentage of snaps played:Ringo-81%Nickerson-15%McWilliams-13%I can't help but wonder how different it may have been had Giants' WR Nabers played.They had some linemen out too I believe
Monday at 10:16 PM3 days Author 4 minutes ago, mattwill said:Fair enough.Just saying Toth is not as bad a player as we thought he might be. He did very well at a tough position
Monday at 10:55 PM3 days 38 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Just saying Toth is not as bad a player as we thought he might be. He did very well at a tough positionI’ve never been down on him. And I trust Stoutland explicitly.
Tuesday at 07:01 AM3 days 8 hours ago, mattwill said:I’ve never been down on him. And I trust Stoutland explicitly.Ham was obsessed last summer about a few bad snaps at camp from Toth. Once he gets that way he never stops....Toth was always labeled a failure. Dude had a nice week...that's all you want from backups, the ability to step in on a temp basis and allow the team to function.
Tuesday at 12:46 PM3 days Author 5 hours ago, joemas6 said:Ham was obsessed last summer about a few bad snaps at camp from Toth. Once he gets that way he never stops....Toth was always labeled a failure.Dude had a nice week...that's all you want from backups, the ability to step in on a temp basis and allow the team to function.Dotson also made his point as to why we brought him in. He's a keeper. I know Hurts misses Wilson. Hope we can get him back late in the season. Calc seems like a solid BU for Goedert also. Baun-great player with the culture we want. I hope Howie signs him again and I also hope Howie tries to woo Becton back. I feel bad for Skattebo. I'm supposed to hate him because he is opposition, but I just can't. He brought so much hope to a bad franchise who desperately needed it. Hope the kid recovers
Tuesday at 01:01 PM3 days 15 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:Could have been the terrible Gmen run D for decades have been a factor? you mean the same defense they couldn't run against two weeks ago? a healthier oline made a huge difference.
Tuesday at 01:50 PM3 days 16 hours ago, joemas6 said:Could be both of their best cover guys were out...that's why the QB had good stats... you see what I did there.Which btw... I agree that the Giants defense played a factor in the success of both the running and passing games. But also I will give the Eagles credit.Well now you’re just being a Hurts hater lol 😂
Tuesday at 04:17 PM3 days 9 hours ago, joemas6 said:Ham was obsessed last summer about a few bad snaps at camp from Toth. Once he gets that way he never stops....Toth was always labeled a failure.Dude had a nice week...that's all you want from backups, the ability to step in on a temp basis and allow the team to function.He definitely had a nice week. Better than nice. However, it wasn’t just Ham having problems with Toth’s snaps in Training Camp. The concern about Toth at Center was wide spread. It is history though now.The concern about Toth at Guard was equally real and very recent.
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