Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Oops answered a question again

What was the answer?? Oops?

Just now, capmaster24 said:

My question would be, with all the Detroit offensive weapons and stud OL, do you really think 3 or 4 passes to Gibbs is the most important thing?

Yes. Stud Oline? Believe you are reflected the past few seasons on this year’s Lions squad. I’ve been of the belief the Lions Oline has new the best league wide…or within debatable argument of being so(obviously Stout guys play big time ball). But they aren’t at that level this season. Still of quality. But tried to include volunteering how the Lions O works and keeps opponents D off balance. They run the ball effectively, they have multiplicity in their passing threats….and they have that great consistent matchup average every week…Gibbs in the short lasting game.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ask your question

My other question would be why do you act like such a d#$k? I see people on here having a discussion and giving opinions and not necessarily agreeing all the time. But seems only you act like a total dooosh about things? Are there personal issues we don't know about? Issues that might cause you to need attention? Just curious, because this is supposed to be a site where we all get to talk about our favorite team, one would think that should bring positive vibes, especially with the success in recent years with Howie, Sirianni and co?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes. Stud Oline? Believe you are reflected the past few seasons on this year’s Lions squad. I’ve been of the belief the Lions Oline has new the best league wide…or within debatable argument of being so(obviously Stout guys play big time ball). But they aren’t at that level this season. Still of quality. But tried to include volunteering how the Lions O works and keeps opponents D off balance. They run the ball effectively, they have multiplicity in their passing threats….and they have that great consistent matchup average every week…Gibbs in the short lasting game.

So again, I don't really see a direct answer just a lot of talking in circles. Why do you feel 3 or 4 passes to Gibbs will be the most important thing in the game? For a team that runs the ball so well and has good WRs and passing game. They score a lot of points, why are 3 passes to Gibbs so important?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes. Stud Oline? Believe you are reflected the past few seasons on this year’s Lions squad. I’ve been of the belief the Lions Oline has new the best league wide…or within debatable argument of being so(obviously Stout guys play big time ball). But they aren’t at that level this season. Still of quality. But tried to include volunteering how the Lions O works and keeps opponents D off balance. They run the ball effectively, they have multiplicity in their passing threats….and they have that great consistent matchup average every week…Gibbs in the short lasting game.

It’s these three differences that create conflict and hesitation by defenders. We always thrive if we make our opponents one dimensional and T off on teams forced to drop back and pass. This would tend the opposite and counter to being in that position. Hard to hang up strictly against selling out they run the ball. Hard to pass blitz either…it’s real sketchy. Nothing blitz beating better than a quick dump off setup already to Gibbs.

That’s just looking at the bigger picture our D against their O problems. Just could also point to the very simple obvious matchup advantage of fastest guy Gibbs versus any LB in coverage..which needs to combine with tackling.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s just looking at the bigger picture our D against their O problems. Just could also point to the very simple obvious matchup advantage of fastest guy Gibbs versus any LB in coverage..which needs to combine with tackling.

Beyond all this next level thinking after he beats our LB then how well does Blankenship deal with Gibbs? I really love rooting for Blankenship as our Secondary leader. But athleticism wise? Blankenship way outclassed dealing with Gibbs.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Beyond all this next level thinking after he beats our LB then how well does Blankenship deal with Gibbs? I really love rooting for Blankenship as our Secondary leader. But athleticism wise? Blankenship way outclassed dealing with Gibbs.

Again, so why do you think 3 or 4 plays mean so much?

10 minutes ago, capmaster24 said:

My question would be, with all the Detroit offensive weapons and stud OL, do you really think 3 or 4 passes to Gibbs is the most important thing?

You could possibly think of it comparably to how the Lions D will need to deal with Hurts legs. Those four runs are a huge deal. How many snaps have our opponents dedicated an entire player as a spy because of this O feature?

Just now, capmaster24 said:

Again, so why do you think 3 or 4 plays mean so much?

I keep answering your question in much detail. When a team is rushing the ball down their opponents throat…what effect can that many Playactions have on a game? One we refer to as The Dagger!

9 minutes ago, capmaster24 said:

My other question would be why do you act like such a d#$k? I see people on here having a discussion and giving opinions and not necessarily agreeing all the time. But seems only you act like a total dooosh about things? Are there personal issues we don't know about? Issues that might cause you to need attention? Just curious, because this is supposed to be a site where we all get to talk about our favorite team, one would think that should bring positive vibes, especially with the success in recent years with Howie, Sirianni and co?

Wow…this is some deep judgement from a poster I wouldn’t understand how you were so qualifier to form such an opinion. How long you been here apart of this board?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I keep answering your question in much detail. When a team is rushing the ball down their opponents throat…what effect can that many Playactions have on a game? One we refer to as The Dagger!

So let's be clear here. There are 3 passes to Gibbs. say he gets 10 yards each catch. You think those 30 yards are the most important thing in the game?

9 minutes ago, capmaster24 said:

So again, I don't really see a direct answer just a lot of talking in circles. Why do you feel 3 or 4 passes to Gibbs will be the most important thing in the game? For a team that runs the ball so well and has good WRs and passing game. They score a lot of points, why are 3 passes to Gibbs so important?

You just don’t appreciate my thoughtful actual answer to the question. Shortest version be closest: creates conflict with the defenders on all plays potentially.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You just don’t appreciate my thoughtful actual answer to the question. Shortest version be closest: creates conflict with the defenders on all plays potentially.

But it’s so very effective weapon…don’t underestimate the damage sporty Gibbs can do getting the ball in his hands(especially out past the huge lineman trapping the backfield)

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I keep answering your question in much detail. When a team is rushing the ball down their opponents throat…what effect can that many Playactions have on a game? One we refer to as The Dagger!

So a pass to Gibbs is like play action? Those passes are more important than our run defense vs their stud combo? So they can rush it 35 times for 200 yards, but the 3 passes to Gibbs are the most important thing?

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You just don’t appreciate my thoughtful actual answer to the question. Shortest version be closest: creates conflict with the defenders on all plays potentially.

3 passes to Gibbs creates conflict with all 11 defenders? But you mentioned our LBs So if their OL just pushes our DL around all day, or St Brown keeps burning our #2 CB all day long, those things are not as important as 3 passes to Gibbs for 30 yards?

3 minutes ago, capmaster24 said:

So a pass to Gibbs is like play action? Those passes are more important than our run defense vs their stud combo? So they can rush it 35 times for 200 yards, but the 3 passes to Gibbs are the most important thing?

Teams pass…and teams run…Fangio can plan, scheme and call to deal with those. Detroit are very strong in both areas. But this very dangerous added weapon is a huge counter against a D for both types of alignments and defensive approach.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But it’s so very effective weapon…don’t underestimate the damage sporty Gibbs can do getting the ball in his hands(especially out past the huge lineman trapping the backfield)

Nobody is underestimating anything from Gibbs, just don't understand how you would put 3 passes being more important than 20 or 35 runs, plus the matchup outside with our #2 CB. It is just baffling your priorities?

1 minute ago, capmaster24 said:

3 passes to Gibbs creates conflict with all 11 defenders? But you mentioned our LBs So if their OL just pushes our DL around all day, or St Brown keeps burning our #2 CB all day long, those things are not as important as 3 passes to Gibbs for 30 yards?

Telling you how this element could(read routinely has) exactly leads to openings for the run and pass game.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Teams pass…and teams run…Fangio can plan, scheme and call to deal with those. Detroit are very strong in both areas. But this very dangerous added weapon is a huge counter against a D for both types of alignments and defensive approach.

Against our zone defense, 3 short passes to Gibbs is the biggest issue?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Telling you how this element could(read routinely has) exactly leads to openings for the run and pass game.

I agree how this is an issue, but you see it as THEE issue, I just can't understand that. Seems like you are just trying to overanalyze, like the guy who picks his fantasy sleeper round 2 instead of round 6

Just now, capmaster24 said:

Nobody is underestimating anything from Gibbs, just don't understand how you would put 3 passes being more important than 20 or 35 runs, plus the matchup outside with our #2 CB. It is just baffling your priorities?

It’s an in between very dangerous third element to create conflict in our defenders. If any of our LBs get caught without help alone in Gibbs they’re burnt toast. But this is just the actual simple production from running the play contribution. You gotta think next level here though. It’s that capability that creates the doubt and indecision with defenders. This element should make Fangio more hesitant to send the blitz ..run or pass. It has that far ranging effects.

The quick pass to Gibbs effects and changes our entire strategy and gameplan along with in the moment playcalling.

Maybe it will make more sense to you if I compared it to Ojomo on our big D stop. He didn’t make the tackle and stop himself. He recognized a repeated one word call from Love being repeated. Ojomo called out their play. That setup Carter and Phillips to make the big play stop. Do you realize any contribution Ojomo made for us….even if it didn’t show up in the statsheet?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s an in between very dangerous third element to create conflict in our defenders. If any of our LBs get caught without help alone in Gibbs they’re burnt toast. But this is just the actual simple production from running the play contribution. You gotta think next level here though. It’s that capability that creates the doubt and indecision with defenders. This element should make Fangio more hesitant to send the blitz ..run or pass. It has that far ranging effects.

The quick pass to Gibbs effects and changes our entire strategy and gameplan along with in the moment playcalling.

I don't think you comprehend. I understand it could potentially be an issue, my question remains why do you think it's the most important issue. IDK, I could parallel like why would flowers be the most important thing at a wedding and not some actual real issue?

7 minutes ago, capmaster24 said:

Nobody is underestimating anything from Gibbs, just don't understand how you would put 3 passes being more important than 20 or 35 runs, plus the matchup outside with our #2 CB. It is just baffling your priorities?

If they run it 35 times I’m already assuming we are toast