1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Thing is with Hurts we want to give him no credit for wins but blame him at times for losses. We can’t have it both ways.

lol may bad meant to say not directed toward you just wanted to use you quote 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

lol may bad meant to say not directed toward you just wanted to use you quote 

Haha all good bud I got and took your point and so agree. Burrow is actually a great example.

29 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Okay and I’m not saying that he’s in the same bracket as Allen and Mahomes. He isn’t for sure. But he’s got a better record than most QBs and it isn’t like they don’t have talent around them.

Hurts has the best surrounding talent in the league. O line,stud RB,stud WR's, decent TE(when he plays). Name a team that has all this as a group. Maybe the Ravens,but that's about it

24 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is directed to you…. but so many want to give credit to QBs for wins but then make excuses for why it not there fault for an L.

Think Joe Burrow is the best example that wins/losses isn’t a QB stat dude is having an MVP caliber season yet his team Is sitting at 5 wins… pretty sure statistically Burrow is leading in all categories 

Pity they lost Mixon,he would really help Burrow as far as establishing a running game

Anyway, big game coming,we need to put this controversy behind us and get it done

A win Sunday locks up the division title. Then a battle with Detroit for the 1/2 seed

34 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A win Sunday locks up the division title. Then a battle with Detroit for the 1/2 seed

Don’t we need a win and a Washington loss to lock up the division? 

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A win Sunday locks up the division title. Then a battle with Detroit for the 1/2 seed

Gotta still beat Washington.  Unless they lose and we win this week. With Dallas and the Giants still left to play,  that would be division tiebreaker games.   Can't lose those 

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

QB's do great when you have guys pushing the QB from behind. Should put our O line and pushers in that 2 spot."Piece of Cake" scheduling helps out alot also which we had a boatload of. The other guys on this list actually play the QB position LOL

Hurts is clearly the youngest of this group of winners. 44 wins with 16 losses. Clearly the schedule has just been full of cupcake teams in this league of such parity on any given Sunday.

19 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The "problem" is Hurts. No one else has a problem

Like you’d know

 

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think that’s being a little harsh to Hurts to say it’s scheduling. Mahomes gets to play the Raiders twice a year, over the past few years the Broncos have been awful and in fact the Chargers haven’t been very good either. Allen plays the Pats and Jets twice every year.

It’s absolutely hilarious how far Hurts Haters go to discredit. Remember a few of those losses were even on that 3 win team in 2020.(he got that 4th win)

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I’m not saying we haven’t had good fortune with our schedule? I’m saying so do KC and Buffalo.

Which Hurts beat both KC and Buffalo just last season…but don’t want to actually point out facts.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And none of the others on that list have the tush push in their arsenal,so I find this stat very misleading,but disagree if you want as other than this year(because we have Bark) we used the tush push to keep drives going because we failed to get 10 yards in 3 downs. So it's fine,we agree to disagree

Josh Allen is the other QB that successfully utilizes the QB sneak similar 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Mahomes and Allen don't have the tush push,they win by playing QB LOL. Just saying. Mahomes lost Hill,had no RB's most of this year,so IMO alot of Hurts stats are due to the O line we have

Watch some actual football. Of all the NFL players you mentioned two…one of them DOES actually use the Tush Push. Hilariously inaccurate statement…I refer to as FL’s usual.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just wondering what this team would look like with Mahomes or Allen under center

We’d have lost all those close big games or games that went to OT.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Okay and I’m not saying that he’s in the same bracket as Allen and Mahomes. He isn’t for sure. But he’s got a better record than most QBs and it isn’t like they don’t have talent around them.

He is clearly more clutch than Allen. But doesn’t full up the stat sheet leading to losing as well.

  Well….he used to be…I don’t know where Hurts is now. 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is directed to you…. but so many want to give credit to QBs for wins but then make excuses for why it not there fault for an L.

Think Joe Burrow is the best example that wins/losses isn’t a QB stat dude is having an MVP caliber season yet his team Is sitting at 5 wins… pretty sure statistically Burrow is leading in all categories 

He does have the best WR in the league…that he’s played with through college

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Thing is with Hurts we want to give him no credit for wins but blame him at times for losses. We can’t have it both ways.

It ties into the HC obviously as well. Other than the HC hasn’t won anything without Hurts. 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts has the best surrounding talent in the league. O line,stud RB,stud WR's, decent TE(when he plays). Name a team that has all this as a group. Maybe the Ravens,but that's about it

Never a thought towards who makes all the decisions…coaching is key. If we had some emotionally irrational Oline coach that wasn’t qualified instead of Stout…you think we’d still be getting the quality blocking we’ve received the last several years?

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2024/12/10/24317211/eagles-panthers-film-review-jalen-hurts-didnt-play-well-offense-greater-issues-quarterback

What’s up with Jake Elliott?

45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Like you’d know

I do,it was my job for many years

47 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Like you’d know

 

It’s absolutely hilarious how far Hurts Haters go to discredit. Remember a few of those losses were even on that 3 win team in 2020.(he got that 4th win)

It's hilarious how far Hurts ass lickers go to prop up a QB who has all the help in the world

47 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Which Hurts beat both KC and Buffalo just last season…but don’t want to actually point out facts.

The QB plays against defenses,not opposing QB's 

55 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Watch some actual football. Of all the NFL players you mentioned two…one of them DOES actually use the Tush Push. Hilariously inaccurate statement…I refer to as FL’s usual.

5 times a game and at the GL? I think you are inaccurate as usual. An occasional QB sneak is standard for all teams. No QB relies on it(and his O line as a crutch) more than Hurts

47 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2024/12/10/24317211/eagles-panthers-film-review-jalen-hurts-didnt-play-well-offense-greater-issues-quarterback

Yes the issue of holding the ball for eternity is an issue and being indecisive which continues with Hurts in YEAR FIVE. Some "deer in headlight" plays, a few PANIC runs, running backwards for a loss, missing WIDE OPEN receivers. Just some real JV stuff. At times he flashes brilliance for a play here and there,but if he was brilliant more we'd be putting up 45 PPG. I'm glad he is brilliant for at least a few plays per game