Avonte's only good when he's available. He's missed 29 games in the last 4 yrs. I'll consider it still a position of need.

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Expectations are there are going to be several key vets being dropped or traded after the draft league wide.

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Expectations are there are going to be several key vets being dropped or traded after the draft league wide.

Who are the Eagles expected to drop...you know, due to Howie not managing the cap well?   

26 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Avonte's only good when he's available. He's missed 29 games in the last 4 yrs. I'll consider it still a position of need.

Absolutely..it's a one year deal...shouldn't change any perception of a need.    

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who are the Eagles expected to drop...you know, due to Howie not managing the cap well?   

I’d say he’s positioning himself to grab one or two of these players that come available…is the point.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Instead grabbed White…bummer. You’ll notice the difference

Like we were the only team vying for them

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Parker is super low YAC player. Don’t know what to tell you if you can’t understand the difference in running a pattern and making a catch….and being setup to try and create YAC.

No,I just got off the bus today lmao. Parker got plenty of YAC's in Miami(remember I lived in FL????)

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I think at some point people are going to realize Hurts in 2022... there were a lot of factors as to why he had success...not really due to himself.

1. Schedule was a fluke how easy it was.

2.  There were blown coverages where guys were wide open and then a bunch of jump balls where our WRs made the play. 

I didn't see all this " regression " last year in the play....I saw in results for sure, but that's because those 2 things I mentioned from 2022 didn't occur.

Tell me when you saw a guy who looked like a football savant reading defenses ?   He didn't have to do that in 2022.  He didn't regress as much as he just didn't have the fluke things work in his favor.

The TD pass to #13 last year when e stood in the pocket and dropped a dime to his 4th read...he didn't do any of that in 2022.  

Regressions I saw from Hurts. 1) Back to the 1 read and panic 2) run for 2 yards and fall down or skip like my Grand daughter out of bounds. Not try to get those valuable 5-8,9,10 more yards he did before after signing for the BIG money 3) Back to lack of vision. On more than 1 occasion receivers were waving their arms in the air and he didn't see them,or he was running out of bounds after his 1 yard gain. Those are free big plays lost 4) Ball hogged at the GL. Rarely using a RB there or a counter play to a TE or WR 5) regressed in reading defenses when he should have improved. 6) PPG dropped by 4 PPG over 2022 when he actually had better offensive(or the same) weapons than previous year Now, I hope he goes back to progressing this year. Sure there were some flukes,but as a NOW highly paid NFL QB we deserve better and he needs to show why we paid him

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nope…Stoll is gone

Yes we established that some time ago,no need to repeat it

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Like we were the only team vying for them

I don’t think we were vying for anything better at LB

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say he’s positioning himself to grab one or two of these players that come available…is the point.

Yeah,Howie likes cheap vets

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t think we were vying for anything better at LB

Howie gets a price in his head,if it goes over,someone else will pay. Also maybe they didn't want to play in Philly? Not everyone is dying to play here

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie gets a price in his head,if it goes over,someone else will pay. Also maybe they didn't want to play in Philly? Not everyone is dying to play here

Yeah I just think Rosie’s big splash move was for the number two off ball LB

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say he’s positioning himself to grab one or two of these players that come available…is the point.

Ohh... so we aren't losing anyone because of Howie messing up contracts?  

Why are other teams having to loss players? 

53 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Regressions I saw from Hurts. 1) Back to the 1 read and panic 2) run for 2 yards and fall down or skip like my Grand daughter out of bounds. Not try to get those valuable 5-8,9,10 more yards he did before after signing for the BIG money 3) Back to lack of vision. On more than 1 occasion receivers were waving their arms in the air and he didn't see them,or he was running out of bounds after his 1 yard gain. Those are free big plays lost 4) Ball hogged at the GL. R. arely using a RB there or a counter play to a TE or WR 5) regressed in reading defenses when he should have improved. 6) PPG dropped by 4 PPG over 2022 when he actually had better offensive(or the same) weapons than previous year Now, I hope he goes back to progressing this year. Sure there were some flukes,but as a NOW highly paid NFL QB we deserve better and he needs to show why we paid him

1.   In 2022, when did you see Hurts have to scan the field and make all these multiple complicated reads?  There was no " back to doing anything " he never did the progression in the first place is my point....go find film to prove me wrong.  

2.  Yes...he didn't RUN as good...that's the anything of a basic QB skill. 

3.  When was his vision so great that he didn't miss open WRs?   You don't notice this when the 1st read is either wide open or he throws a successful jump ball...which was 2022.

4.  Ball hogging...it's the coach calling the tush push.  You want him to change that play ??? 

5. No regression in reading defenses because he never had to do that in 2022.

6. Yes PPG dropped...as I said, there was regression in results, mainly due to the flukes of guys being wide open or catching a bunch if jump balls not happening like in 2022.

Now...from what tou told me, you didn't get to watch much in 2022... you were watching online as the football advanced down the field.   So you saw results and automatically perceived it as Hurts making huge strides in these skills.

He didn't, that's my point.   

 

Hurts was an elite runner...but not last year.  That's the difference. Still lacks basic QB skills.  No " regression " rather lack of progression that was masked by his running, weak opponents,  phenomenal plays made by WRs.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I just think Rosie’s big splash move was for the number two off ball LB

Bark was the splash move and CJG

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

In 2022, when did you see Hurts have to scan the field and make all these multiple complicated reads?  There was no " back to doing anything " he never did the progression in the first place is my point....go find film to prove me wrong.  

He let the ball fly,not as tentative or non committal. I'm sure we can both find film to prove our points.I'm talking the collective body of work

31 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

2.  Yes...he didn't RUN as good...that's the anything of a basic QB skill. 

It's a skill,what do you mean? Mahomes does it all the time

31 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

3.  When was his vision so great that he didn't miss open WRs?   You don't notice this when the 1st read is either wide open or he throws a successful jump ball...which was 2022

His vision has always been pretty bad because he relies on the run. NFL QB's require more than college and he needs to get to the NFL level

33 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

4.  Ball hogging...it's the coach calling the tush push.  You want him to change that play ??? 

We ran the RPO(what do you think the O stands for?) The play has OPTIONS and he always chooses to HOG THE BALL

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

5. No regression in reading defenses because he never had to do that in 2022.

He was making progress in 2022,that all vaporized. That is a regression

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

6. Yes PPG dropped...as I said, there was regression in results, mainly due to the flukes of guys being wide open or catching a bunch if jump balls not happening like in 2022.

Well,if we are counting on jump balls,then he isn't the QB we should have. WR's should not have to do that every play. it' exposes THEM and the 50/50 balls can be picked or the defender gets a PBU. Not a good formula

40 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

rather lack of progression

Well we disagree because in 2022 he was actually getting better,more accurate and less afraid to let the ball go. 2023 he kept holding it,many times WAY too long. He lacked confidence releasing the ball(thus the ball hog comment) or his field vision is so bad he can't find some very good receivers. Either way he needs to fix that or we need to find another QB because these guys will get dejected running around every play with no stat line. I agree it's easy to beat up on bad teams,but look at the demolition in TB. No pee wee QB takes an EZ sack trying to be a hero. The other 21 guys work hard and when they see bonehead plays like that,they quit busting A because it doesn't matter. Dropping the ball in the SB-ok hey ish happens with all the pressure on you. not that I like it,but he is human after all. The EZ sack was just inexcusable for an NFL QB