April 4, 20242 yr Author 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: Yeah I just think Rosie’s big splash move was for the number two off ball LB Well,I hope he takes some DB's this draft. It's great class and there are usable ones into round 4 even,and as you suspect,I suppose we see who shakes loose after the draft. They won't be shut down guys,but they could be better than what we have. We DO need linemen and Bowers will probably be out of reach unless we offer a 2 and something else for him and I doubt Howie would spend that draft capital. he IS hard to pass up though and alot of teams will be working offers to get him. There are other good TE's and we probably take one somewhere. if Bowers falls to 18(cincy) then I think we would have a shot,although it would be hard for Cincy to pass on him if he even lasts that long.Powers-Johnson probably also would require some draft capital to move for,thus I believe it will be an edge with our first pick. We could make a slight move up for the guy we want,or drift back a little and still get a good one.22 to 26-28 would still yield a nice player and extra picks
April 4, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, joemas6 said: Ohh... so we aren't losing anyone because of Howie messing up contracts? Why are other teams having to loss players? We lost plenty of our fair share of players the year before. Fletch and the top paid C retired. Salary cap went up a record amount this season.
April 4, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Bark was the splash move and CJG Neither plays LB you realize obviously
April 4, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said: He was making progress in 2022,that all vaporized. That is a regression The coaches and playcalling is what regressed
April 5, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Well we disagree because in 2022 he was actually getting better,more accurate and less afraid to let the ball go. 2023 he kept holding it,many times WAY too long. He lacked confidence releasing the ball(thus the ball hog comment) or his field vision is so bad he can't find some very good receivers. Either way he needs to fix that or we need to find another QB because these guys will get dejected running around every play with no stat line. I agree it's easy to beat up on bad teams,but look at the demolition in TB. No pee wee QB takes an EZ sack trying to be a hero. The other 21 guys work hard and when they see bonehead plays like that,they quit busting A because it doesn't matter. Dropping the ball in the SB-ok hey ish happens with all the pressure on you. not that I like it,but he is human after all. The EZ sack was just inexcusable for an NFL QB What happened was the WR routes took too long to develop very consistently. Playcalling was always home run big play seeking.
April 5, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Well,I hope he takes some DB's this draft. It's great class and there are usable ones into round 4 even,and as you suspect,I suppose we see who shakes loose after the draft. They won't be shut down guys,but they could be better than what we have. We DO need linemen and Bowers will probably be out of reach unless we offer a 2 and something else for him and I doubt Howie would spend that draft capital. he IS hard to pass up though and alot of teams will be working offers to get him. There are other good TE's and we probably take one somewhere. if Bowers falls to 18(cincy) then I think we would have a shot,although it would be hard for Cincy to pass on him if he even lasts that long.Powers-Johnson probably also would require some draft capital to move for,thus I believe it will be an edge with our first pick. We could make a slight move up for the guy we want,or drift back a little and still get a good one.22 to 26-28 would still yield a nice player and extra picks Not much hope a LB will be any part of the first two days of the draft.
April 5, 20242 yr Author 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Neither plays LB you realize obviously How many splash moves do you expect annually?
April 5, 20242 yr Author 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: The coaches and playcalling is what regressed So did the execution
April 5, 20242 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: How many splash moves do you expect annually? Just desired the one quality LB
April 5, 20242 yr Author 13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: What happened was the WR routes took too long to develop very consistently. Playcalling was always home run big play seeking. There was no change at WR,not buying that
April 5, 20242 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Just desired the one quality LB Lots of things I want too,doesn't mean e can get them all
April 5, 20242 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: There was no change at WR,not buying that It’s called The Play. Playcalling was dreadful.
April 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Lots of things I want too,doesn't mean e can get them all Haven’t even begun that list.
April 5, 20242 yr Author 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: What happened was the WR routes took too long to develop very consistently. Playcalling was always home run big play seeking. Not calling 1 yard sideline passes to Goedert. No production from the slot either. The slot spot takes no time to develop. The WR's were the same as the year before and the routes they ran were the same
April 5, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: It’s called The Play. Playcalling was dreadful. So was the execution. If I can run one play and noone can stop me you keep doing it(see tush push)
April 5, 20242 yr Author Hurts regressed from making strides as a QB to going back to RB who can throw
April 5, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: He left the ball fly,not as tentative or no committal. I'm sure we can both find film to prove our points.I'm talking the collective body of work Yea...he let a pass fly to wide open guy or threw a jump ball that was caught... vs the bad competition. That's my point. He isn't regressing...he was never there in the first place...the competition was just bad.
April 5, 20242 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: Yea...he let a pass fly to wide open guy or threw a jump ball that was caught... vs the bad competition. That's my point. He isn't regressing...he was never there in the first place...the competition was just bad. IDK IMO he was making some progress graduating from the 1 read and run,then he went back to that
April 5, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: It's a skill,what do you mean? Mahomes does it all the time Go check how often Mahomes runs.
April 5, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Yea...he let a pass fly to wide open guy or threw a jump ball that was caught... vs the bad competition. That's my point. He isn't regressing...he was never there in the first place...the competition was just bad. 2023 he didn't see those wide open guys or if he did,he didn't deliver
April 5, 20242 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Go check how often Mahomes runs. Besides that's not regression...that's a decision not to run or protect himself.
April 5, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Not calling 1 yard sideline passes to Goedert. No production from the slot either. The slot spot takes no time to develop. The WR's were the same as the year before and the routes they ran were the same Nope. Route tree was severely broken off. Do you not remember me constantly begging for some quicker routes to be called? Threw a Quick Slant to AJ midseason and it worked like a charm. Barely ever came back to it however. Once they actually called it…and it worked so well…you would have thought sometime they would have come back to it.
April 5, 20242 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: Go check how often Mahomes runs. He runs when he has to as opposed to Hurts who runs because his only read is covered. Mahomes runs to buy time,Hurts runs and falls down. Not near the same effort
April 5, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Hurts regressed from making strides as a QB to going back to RB who can throw No idea how you try to apply this statement to 2023 season.
April 5, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Well we disagree because in 2022 he was actually getting better,more accurate and less afraid to let the ball go. 2023 he kept holding it,many times WAY too long. He lacked confidence releasing the ball(thus the ball hog comment) or his field vision is so bad he can't find some very good receivers. Either way he needs to fix that or we need to find another QB because these guys will get dejected running around every play with no stat line. I agree it's easy to beat up on bad teams,but look at the demolition in TB. No pee wee QB takes an EZ sack trying to be a hero. The other 21 guys work hard and when they see bonehead plays like that,they quit busting A because it doesn't matter. Dropping the ball in the SB-ok hey ish happens with all the pressure on you. not that I like it,but he is human after all. The EZ sack was just inexcusable for an NFL QB Yes we do disagree...because in 2022 he wasn't getting any better in these specific things... the competition was just awful.
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