Just now, joemas6 said:

I wouldn't pay Henry either.  Barkley is better all around. 

Henry is worth more than Sanders,not close

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

He's kiling it because A) he is Barkley not Sanders B) he has the Oline for success. Why is this hard for you?

How is it hard for me to do exactly what I’ve been suggesting all along? You are the one against paying a RB. I’ve been beating the table to do it. This is for you to explain why you don’t think Barkley was worth it. Or just admit you were wrong and change your opinion in hindsight.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Your opinion is the time for us to have sorted everything out was in PS games the guys didn’t even participate in. Seems very challenging to accomplish to say the least.

They didn't play at all ever? Just sat around drinking coffee? No camp or practices? No pre sorting out your #1's? really?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How is it hard for me to do exactly what I’ve been suggesting all along? You are the one against paying a RB. I’ve been beating the table to do it. This is for you to explain why you don’t think Barkley was worth it. Or just admit you were wrong and change your opinion in hindsight.

Who said I was against paying a RB? for the 5oth time I said I wouldn't OVERPAY a RB

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Henry is worth more than Sanders,not close

Chubba Hubbard is obviously worth more than Sanders.    Sanders blows. 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Who said I was against paying a RB? for the 5oth time I said I wouldn't OVERPAY a RB

Ham,I will ask AGAIN,if Bark was not available which RB would you overpay? Names please

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Most of it,sure. We saw the real Moore offense in week 1 vs GB. Then we saw Hurts totally blow that. Then Moore pulled it all back. Hurts can't do it . At least not the way Moore wants it to be. We still have motion now and we see Hurts under center now. Those things remained. It was tinkered with until we got it right ion week 6,but the offense was in place IMO

I’d say we saw the most of the real Moore O against Pitt. Moore came out in his pressers pretty much straight telling everybody he was taking control. That game looked more like a Moore O than most any of the others as well. 
 Trying remember back to what fake was right before that. I believe it was the Pitt game though off the top of my head.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How is it hard for me to do exactly what I’ve been suggesting all along? You are the one against paying a RB. I’ve been beating the table to do it. This is for you to explain why you don’t think Barkley was worth it. Or just admit you were wrong and change your opinion in hindsight.

I'm against paying a RB... with the way you simply seem to imply just pay any RB.    I wouldn't

For me Barkley was the first one available that I would have paid.  

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ham,I will ask AGAIN,if Bark was not available which RB would you overpay? Names please

You have zero shot at getting an answer here.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say we saw the most of the real Moore O against Pitt. Moore came out in his pressers pretty much straight telling everybody he was taking control. That game looked more like a Moore O than most any of the others as well. 
 Trying remember back to what fake was right before that. I believe it was the Pitt game though off the top of my head.

Moore had to pull Hurts back to what he was capable of. We kept the motion and Hurts under center,but parts of Moores offense Hurts couldn't do

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

You have zero shot at getting an answer here.

I know but I keep trying lol

Moore had to find where his pushing had to stop and work with what he had. That was week 6 at 1/2 time. The game you said siri changed to save his job. Well he did so here we are

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No he's not. This is the best Hurts we will see and at this time that is good enough with the stellar supporting cast we gave him

So Hurts didn’t take on these new responsibilities for the first time this season? He had to worn Kelce retiring. Really not much choice Siri had about it. All while learning and installing pretty much the list different O scheme potable for the first time.

 You’re crazy! Massive room for growth still. In much of your other posts feels like you openly acknowledge this even. Feels like the wisdoms you bang on Hurts not possessing enough to your liking I see growth in most all QBs on their throes with. 
   But sure…you already decided …all the new responsibilities and learning Moore’s O all should have been peaked by week three. Not third year in it…third game according to you.

 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So Hurts didn’t take on these new responsibilities for the first time this season? He had to worn Kelce retiring. Really not much choice Siri had about it. All while learning and installing pretty much the list different O scheme potable for the first time.

 You’re crazy! Massive room for growth still. In much of your other posts feels like you openly acknowledge this even. Feels like the wisdoms you bang on Hurts not possessing enough to your liking I see growth in most all QBs on their throes with. 
   But sure…you already decided …all the new responsibilities and learning Moore’s O all should have been peaked by week three. Not third year in it…third game according to you.

 

Hurts stated Kelce was "holding him back" which certainly implies he was ready to go? How on earth did we function the 2 games he didn't play? Hurts peaked week 6. From there he became a game manager which seems to be working?

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And? After college and 6 years in the pros he still runs backwards and takes the sacks anyway? What did he learn in 10 years as a QB????? he needs to be retaught every year not to do this? How about throwing balls away? has he learned this YET??? How long does that take?

Is anybody ever perfect? But I’m not fighting against all of this. Hurts still rolls out and instead of just throwing it away…goes down…or gets tackled. Dumb. Agree. Not with that play previously we discussed …but like the play No Nass posted about twenty times looking QB1 for doing it. Outside the pocket…no throw…then throw it away. Don’t just go down or out of bounds. He’s still working on that. That’s a legit flaw. But taking steps all over the place you aren’t seeing…this is obvious you are missing. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Is anybody ever perfect? But I’m not fighting against all of this. Hurts still rolls out and instead of just throwing it away…goes down…or gets tackled. Dumb. Agree. Not with that play previously we discussed …but like the play No Nass posted about twenty times looking QB1 for doing it. Outside the pocket…no throw…then throw it away. Don’t just go down or out of bounds. He’s still working on that. That’s a legit flaw. But taking steps all over the place you aren’t seeing…this is obvious you are missing. 

That play we’ve been dissecting. That’s where I see it as Hurts prioritized protected the ball. I saw that play as growth really. Rather him read through all BS always…but that isn’t realistic on Earth. Just like the play Hurts got injured on. He got injured because he was protecting the ball so much. Got really caught up over it.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is anybody ever perfect? But I’m not fighting against all of this. Hurts still rolls out and instead of just throwing it away…goes down…or gets tackled. Dumb. Agree. Not with that play previously we discussed …but like the play No Nass posted about twenty times looking QB1 for doing it. Outside the pocket…no throw…then throw it away. Don’t just go down or out of bounds. He’s still working on that. That’s a legit flaw. But taking steps all over the place you aren’t seeing…this is obvious you are missing. 

Yeah that's the flaw that bugs me most. The easy stuff he should be past by now, It drives me crazy. my foam bricks get a good workout. I'm fine with who Hurts is, just cut out the JV garbage. No sense giving up sacks or points needlessly. It's hard enough without that. I don't hate Hurts despite what you say, but the JV crap makes me angry

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That play we’ve been dissecting. That’s where I see it as Hurts prioritized protected the ball. I saw that play as growth really. Rather him read through all BS always…but that isn’t realistic on Earth. Just like the play Hurts got injured on. He got injured because he was protecting the ball so much. Got really caught up over it.

Out of the 4 QBs left...where would you rank Hurts?

40 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No he's not. This is the best Hurts we will see and at this time that is good enough with the stellar supporting cast we gave him

Sure hope you’re wrong

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That play we’ve been dissecting. That’s where I see it as Hurts prioritized protected the ball. I saw that play as growth really. Rather him read through all BS always…but that isn’t realistic on Earth. Just like the play Hurts got injured on. He got injured because he was protecting the ball so much. Got really caught up over it.

His decision making or lack thereof is another sore spot with me. That play is an easy pitch and catch to Gains and should have been made. Mistake by Hurts. It happens but doesn't alter the fact it was a mistake

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure hope you’re wrong

I'm fine being right, because one more game and we go to the SB. The best Hurts we will see is good enough at this point

39 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And? After college and 6 years in the pros he still runs backwards and takes the sacks anyway? What did he learn in 10 years as a QB????? he needs to be retaught every year not to do this? How about throwing balls away? has he learned this YET??? How long does that take?

How many times are you going to beat the table over this sixth season of Hurts development during his fifth season? Evidently you see him developed a whole season past he’s even been here.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure hope you’re wrong

You sure hope he is wrong that this is good enough?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How many times are you going to beat the table over this sixth season of Hurts development during his fifth season? Evidently you see him developed a whole season past he’s even been here.

Until he shows me otherwise. You should too. No reason to set the bar so low for him. Treat him like any other player

36 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

No Mas thinks you are a big fan of thr fiction....I wager all the Sci Fi and out ti left field books and movies.

Because of the way your mind wanders away from the obvious.  Everything with you has to be an extreme..  everyone is either a genius or an idiot as a coach. 

The " great O mind"   it's sports not rocket science. 

You want to activate a 3rd QB just for the possibility of running a QB sneak.   You bring up having success but firing Siri for Moore?  In zero scenarios does that make sense if you know Lurie and Howie like to control things.

No Mas thinks you make simple things complicated....and that you are a little slow in figuring out that GB is pulling your string knowing you get triggered about Hurts.   

Exactly my point…you say it’s extremes all genius or idiot. When in fact my exact point was I’m always it’s just not that way most of the time in reality. Some great, good, bad awful all rolled into one. This is life reality. Everything isn’t so nice and neat and great or terrible.