14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The time for the big picture has passed. That ended when the playoffs began. The big picture was had and we are continuing on. There is no big picture, it's about execution

Because week 7 is just as important as NFC Chamipmship game according to your theories.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

These developing your franchise QB skills never just disappear by skipping and bypassing for short term gains. No matter what..,always had to happen. Wasn’t a perfect pairing on that front with Siri(not a teacher) and Hurts(not a 33 years old polished grizzled pro for the first time HC). Demeanor wise it was great fit for Siri. Never really seen much of the immature emotional heart on sleeve HC lead by the very mature even keeled kid at QB.

So you are going to teach Hurts how to throw 60 yard passes? No that will never be. Hurts has many good skills, some are reoccurring nightmares that leave me wondering why he can't learn what other QB's learn. After 6 years plus all his college years he still makes bumbling rookie mistakes that should have been corrected LONG ago. Clean up the BS already. He can WOW me or leave me SMH all in the same game

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And this is what happens. Take everything I share …dumb it down to one little key word. No Mas wonders why I try and speak more vague about concepts and such. This was exactly where I went into very specific detail. But it just comes back as …oh Ham loves Moore now.

No Mas thinks you are a big fan of thr fiction....I wager all the Sci Fi and out ti left field books and movies.

Because of the way your mind wanders away from the obvious.  Everything with you has to be an extreme..  everyone is either a genius or an idiot as a coach. 

The " great O mind"   it's sports not rocket science. 

You want to activate a 3rd QB just for the possibility of running a QB sneak.   You bring up having success but firing Siri for Moore?  In zero scenarios does that make sense if you know Lurie and Howie like to control things.

No Mas thinks you make simple things complicated....and that you are a little slow in figuring out that GB is pulling your string knowing you get triggered about Hurts.   

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why on earth should we lose games(aka bumps in whatever road) when everyones JOB is to win? Why should we fix what isn't broken? I don't get your thinking at all. Everyone is paid to win starting week 1. The experiments are what camp and pre season are for. Once the season starts the object is to win the game in front of you. Moore experimented with Hurts through 5 and 1/2 games. He saw what he wanted could not be implemented with the QB we have. Hurts is our QB. There is no need to experiment further. He is what he is and we make it work and we are here with 2 games left. If Moore goes away, Hurts is still our QB and his replacement will know Hurts is what he is and he has to work within those limitations

I didn’t ever even say losing games. But did say higher risk. Big difference in my mind. Taking more chances accelerating the learning curve….which brings with it a higher risk of losing.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because week 7 is just as important as NFC Chamipmship game according to your theories.

If you don't win the weekly in season games you don't get to this point. Every week is important

17 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The time for the big picture has passed. That ended when the playoffs began. The big picture was had and we are continuing on. There is no big picture, it's about execution

The is the culmination of the big picture. Everything we’ve done all lead to this. What’s your term for it to understand more easily? Draft, Mini camps, TC, PS, whole season….all for the bigger picture…the now.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I didn’t ever even say losing games. But did say higher risk. Big difference in my mind. Taking more chances accelerating the learning curve….which brings with it a higher risk of losing.

We tried "higher risk" and Hurts led the league in picks. Why continue down that dead end road?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you are going to teach Hurts how to throw 60 yard passes? No that will never be. Hurts has many good skills, some are reoccurring nightmares that leave me wondering why he can't learn what other QB's learn. After 6 years plus all his college years he still makes bumbling rookie mistakes that should have been corrected LONG ago. Clean up the BS already. He can WOW me or leave me SMH all in the same game

The good thing about the Hurts situation.   Is that we are back discussing what is his fault..  is he good enough or is he holding the team back.

The " MVP" talk no longer exists and it's nice to see people back to reality. 

I doubt we ever get there again with that ridiculous idea. The discussion is going to be whether he is 2nd or 3rd best in our division. 

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lie,not what I said. I said I didn't want to OVERPAY and yes O line matters even to a mediocre RB. Bark has 2000 yards because with his talent coupled with our O line he made it happen. If we didn't get Bark and had to settle for a committee, then yep, it's the O line that makes the RB and there would be no reason to OVERPAY any other RB(maybe Derrick Henry). You continously leave out the OVERYPAY part

Now…you did say you didn’t want to overpay anybody….also specifically a RB. That part is true. But you did flat say don’t pay a Rb it’s all Oline. Both are factual. Not a lie.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The is the culmination of the big picture. Everything we’ve done all lead to this. What’s your term for it to understand more easily? Draft, Mini camps, TC, PS, whole season….all for the bigger picture…the now.

AH, so the big picture was attained. Excellent, you are starting to get it. What "experiments" do you want to try this week?

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I didn’t ever even say losing games. But did say higher risk. Big difference in my mind. Taking more chances accelerating the learning curve….which brings with it a higher risk of losing.

 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The is the culmination of the big picture. Everything we’ve done all lead to this. What’s your term for it to understand more easily? Draft, Mini camps, TC, PS, whole season….all for the bigger picture…the now.

 

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So if you're going to misquote me at least do it correctly. if Bark wasn't here WHO would you overpay?

I didn’t misquote your thoughts at all. You stated it over and over and over again. My thoughts were exactly pay the Rb! They’re cheap compared to every other position. Why wouldn’t you pay a guy touches the ball so much and can have such an impact? I’m not coming up with any other idea than the one I’ve been alone suggesting all along. Being in Barkley. We’re built to dominate rushing the fall. Maximize it!

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Now…you did say you didn’t want to overpay anybody….also specifically a RB. That part is true. But you did flat say don’t pay a Rb it’s all Oline. Both are factual. Not a lie.

If you have your choice of mediocre RB's then sure,it's about the O line and there is no need to overpay any of them. Now if you want to talk about Bark or Henry,those are not mediocre RB's. That is a whole different conversation but no way do I pay Sanders 4-5 million to be as mediocre as the next guy

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

AH, so the big picture was attained. Excellent, you are starting to get it. What "experiments" do you want to try this week?

Elliot making extra points?

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So if you're going to misquote me at least do it correctly. if Bark wasn't here WHO would you overpay?

Why would I come up with a different idea than the one to bring Saquan here to dominate at an MVP level? Totally completely still backing my opinions on this all along. Pay the RB…he’s killing it! 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I didn’t misquote your thoughts at all. You stated it over and over and over again. My thoughts were exactly pay the Rb! They’re cheap compared to every other position. Why wouldn’t you pay a guy touches the ball so much and can have such an impact? I’m not coming up with any other idea than the one I’ve been alone suggesting all along. Being in Barkley. We’re built to dominate rushing the fall. Maximize it!

There was nobody worth paying before Barkley came available 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why would I come up with a different idea than the one to bring Saquan here to dominate at an MVP level? Totally completely still backing my opinions on this all along. Pay the RB…he’s killing it! 

Barkley is my opinion….on what planet should I change my thoughts about that at this point?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why would I come up with a different idea than the one to bring Saquan here to dominate at an MVP level? Totally completely still backing my opinions on this all along. Pay the RB…he’s killing it! 

Pay Barkley... not just pay the RB.

30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is what you should be looking at in TC. This is the culmination of our 2024 season. That big picture!

The big picture for 2025 begins when the SB ends. It's not even a big picture,it's about players and who we keep and who we acquire

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Most of it,sure. We saw the real Moore offense in week 1 vs GB. Then we saw Hurts totally blow that. Then Moore pulled it all back. Hurts can't do it . At least not the way Moore wants it to be. We still have motion now and we see Hurts under center now. Those things remained. It was tinkered with until we got it right ion week 6,but the offense was in place IMO

How did we sort all these things out in the preseason when they didn’t even play? Very curious still how you came to this conclusion.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why would I come up with a different idea than the one to bring Saquan here to dominate at an MVP level? Totally completely still backing my opinions on this all along. Pay the RB…he’s killing it! 

He's kiling it because A) he is Barkley not Sanders B) he has the Oline for success. Why is this hard for you?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How did we sort all these things out in the preseason when they didn’t even play? Very curious still how you came to this conclusion.

Your opinion is the time for us to have sorted everything out was in PS games the guys didn’t even participate in. Seems very challenging to accomplish to say the least.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you have your choice of mediocre RB's then sure,it's about the O line and there is no need to overpay any of them. Now if you want to talk baout bark or Henry,those are not mediocre RB's. That is a whole different converstation but no way do I pay Sanders 4-5 million to be as mediocre are the next guy

I wouldn't pay Henry either.  Barkley is better all around. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How did we sort all these things out in the preseason when they didn’t even play? Very curious still how you came to this conclusion.

Who didn't play?