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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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5 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

I hope we don't use it on Garrett 

Continue to build up the future and not waste it on a rental player that doesn't promise you a Super Bowl. Plus we would have to give up more than just a 1st.

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7 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

I hope we don't use it on Garrett 

Our Dline would be wrecking some people though. They’d be having nightmares studying that film prep all week.

But Garrett wants to be the highest paid nonQB. That part takes us out of the running I’d think.

30 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Continue to build up the future and not waste it on a rental player that doesn't promise you a Super Bowl. Plus we would have to give up more than just a 1st.

I just don’t know how far future I’d be looking right now. We are built to win now. Lane and Saquan are two very special talents to win only now with. 

  • 2023
    The Eagles used pre-snap motion on 10.9% of their plays, the fewest in the NFL. 
     
  • 2024
    The Eagles used motion on 57.1% of their snaps, which is a significant increase. However, it's still the 12th lowest rate in the league. 
     
  • Purpose
    Moore's offense uses motion to complement core plays and protect them with a different look. 
     
  • Examples
    In one play, Jahan Dotson motioned from left to right, which gave Barkley the space to beat McDuffie on a wheel route. 
     
  • Impact
    When using motion, Hurts and the Eagles have achieved the second-highest explosive pass percentage in the league
21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just don’t know how far future I’d be looking right now. We are built to win now. Lane and Saquan are two very special talents to win only now with. 

Put the right pieces in place and you still are doing that.

Especially with Slay gone now.

Slay getting released according to NFL Network 

1 hour ago, DownwithDallas said:

I got some favorites of mine at 32 but after the combine they put on i think they might have elevated there position. LB Jahiid Campbell, S Nick Emmanwori, and CB Sharon Revel Jr. I think Revel was the only one that didn't have a top showing at their position, but coming off a serious injury they were pretty damn good. 6'2 188 lbs 4.40 40, 11' broad jump 39" vertical coming off an ACL is impressive.

Now i know that we normally draft lineman but I think all 3 of these guys are game changers and late 1st- early 2nd prospects.

This year in particular....there is a need for DL.   So not only is that something that they like to draft as per normal... now there is the need.  

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just don’t know how far future I’d be looking right now. We are built to win now. Lane and Saquan are two very special talents to win only now with. 

Agree... you have to prioritize the next two years with this group that includes Barkley and Lane.   But also correct that Garrett breaking the bank doesn't work.   

I'd be ok giving up 32 and next years 2nd round...if the money worked.    We should get good comp picks, plus already have the Jets 3rd rounder in the great Reddick trade.

So how much worse would that Jets 3rd round pick be than our 2nd round?  Could easily see it being within 1 to 12 pick difference.

Then you hit better than you would at pick 32 with Garrett,  with the cost being a 2nd rounder.

Garrett should be elite for another 2-4 years. 

But....  absolutely not if he wants to break the bank!   Then we pass and look to trade back from 32.

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 

  • 2023
    The Eagles used pre-snap motion on 10.9% of their plays, the fewest in the NFL. 
     
  • 2024
    The Eagles used motion on 57.1% of their snaps, which is a significant increase. However, it's still the 12th lowest rate in the league. 
     
  • Purpose
    Moore's offense uses motion to complement core plays and protect them with a different look. 
     
  • Examples
    In one play, Jahan Dotson motioned from left to right, which gave Barkley the space to beat McDuffie on a wheel route. 
     
  • Impact
    When using motion, Hurts and the Eagles have achieved the second-highest explosive pass percentage in the league

So is Moore a great O mind... or was Siri preventing the Eagles using Moore’s playbook?

Are we over 2023 yet....or do we still need to lay on the couch and do more therapy?     

15 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Slay getting released according to NFL Network 

Classy move giving him time to sign even ahead of free agency now.  No tampering to talk with him now...lol

1 hour ago, DownwithDallas said:

I hope we don't use it on Garrett 

Why not like Garrett is on the downward spiral and image we only trade for Garrett if we have an extension in place already for him.

obviously going to cost more then just #32 but you should also have one of if not the best D players in the entire league for the next 3-5 years 

52 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

This year in particular....there is a need for DL.   So not only is that something that they like to draft as per normal... now there is the need.  

DE will be in a better position in the 2nd then maybe reaching in the 1st I think and 3 1st rd DT is a little ridiculous when you can get a starter somewhere else. IMO

53 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Agree... you have to prioritize the next two years with this group that includes Barkley and Lane.   But also correct that Garrett breaking the bank doesn't work.   

I'd be ok giving up 32 and next years 2nd round...if the money worked.    We should get good comp picks, plus already have the Jets 3rd rounder in the great Reddick trade.

So how much worse would that Jets 3rd round pick be than our 2nd round?  Could easily see it being within 1 to 12 pick difference.

Then you hit better than you would at pick 32 with Garrett,  with the cost being a 2nd rounder.

Garrett should be elite for another 2-4 years. 

But....  absolutely not if he wants to break the bank!   Then we pass and look to trade back from 32.

He was the defensive player of the year but he won't want to break the bank? Why wouldn't he? That's like saying maybe I can get a Corvette for the price of a Honda Civic if I ask real nicely. 

2 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

Slay getting released according to NFL Network 

Yes a post June cut…you get two of those

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So is Moore a great O mind... or was Siri preventing the Eagles using Moore’s playbook?

Are we over 2023 yet....or do we still need to lay on the couch and do more therapy?     

Moore was an experienced O mind that had the ability to be able to coach and teach. Had a real scheme attached to his playbook. Like it said in what you quoted…provided some motion at least to disguise running the same plays over and over so teams couldn’t just T off on everything. 

Even being held back by the HC at least Moore got us up towards middle of the pack motion usage.. it was really turning into a real pro O. 

2 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

DE will be in a better position in the 2nd then maybe reaching in the 1st I think and 3 1st rd DT is a little ridiculous when you can get a starter somewhere else. IMO

Where are you going to get a starter on defense?  

2 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

He was the defensive player of the year but he won't want to break the bank? Why wouldn't he? That's like saying maybe I can get a Corvette for the price of a Honda Civic if I ask real nicely. 

He is saying he wants to play for a contender.   Again though, IDK, I'm just not ruling anything out like it seems you are.  He is under contract, if we were to trade for him, it would be already with a new contract in place... really not difficult then to understand that Howie would have all the financials known before making the trade.   I think the idea here , which may be difficult to grasp.. we are SB champs and a destination, Garrett has played in Cleveland for years.  He has money.  Not a 25 year old coming off of a rookie deal type thing, this is a guy hwo suffered in Cleveland.. but already got paid.

So who knows.  But I'm not breaking he bank or offering two 1sts

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Even being held back by the HC at least Moore got us up towards middle of the pack motion usage.. it was really turning into a real pro O. 

I can't believe the plane ever took off to travel to away games.... you know, with the coach holding it back!    Pure genius!

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Even being held back by the HC at least Moore got us up towards middle of the pack motion usage.. it was really turning into a real pro O. 

Which only took you until after Washington to acknowledge.  

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I can't believe the plane ever took off to travel to away games.... you know, with the coach holding it back!    Pure genius!

Did it take off to ever arrive in Tampa Bay?

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which only took you until after Washington to acknowledge.  

Isn’t that when it happened?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Isn’t that when it happened?

The last two games we really saw what I thought this O could have been. How else were you to just assume it would all click like that…until it actually did click like that?

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Isn’t that when it happened?

Didn’t I almost exactly predict when we were going to need to do it also? I was pretty spot on with what was going to be needed and when. Definitely weren't winning that SB handing off to Barkley.

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