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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Those are the two allowed post June cuts then. Guess according to No Mas I can’t point out how bad the Bradberry signing was. All three years he’s just sucked under this contract…well I’m just going ahead and wanting this season off also so de we are cutting him. Good move by the GM…to get rid of his bad move.

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12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You called Siri under qualified...

I'll ask...post Ray Rhodes....which of Lurie's hires for HC had a more extensive resume? 

That's not calling it like you see it...that's a BS shot at the coach.  Who had a larger resume than Reid, Chip, Doug ...before being hired.  That's fact. Iook them up.

Are you taking a shot at our GM that he wouldn’t hire experienced coaches that would demand more power?

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You called Siri under qualified...

I'll ask...post Ray Rhodes....which of Lurie's hires for HC had a more extensive resume? 

That's not calling it like you see it...that's a BS shot at the coach.  Who had a larger resume than Reid, Chip, Doug ...before being hired.  That's fact. Iook them up.

Siri the least qualified of the bunch very clearly 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri the least qualified of the bunch very clearly 

But he’s improving. Going to have the O back relying on him this season though. Which I expect you’ll bash the QB over any lesser performances..like usual.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Are you taking a shot at our GM that he wouldn’t hire experienced coaches that would demand more power?

Just comparing resumes prior...Siri was the largest 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri the least qualified of the bunch very clearly 

Siri the most ...clearly when you look at the resume.

So that should be another $6.5 mil cap savings...  so a little over $15 mil created so far with the 3 moves of Barkley,  Bradberry and Slay. 

I agree with the comp picks... I don't expect outside FAs... but could mean we resign more than one guy?

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri the least qualified of the bunch very clearly 

Both Doug and Siri started coaching ( in the NFL) in 2009.  Both had 3 years as OC... Doug hired as head coach in 2016, Siri in 2021... 5 more years of NFL experience,  coaching more positions and that's without the previous experience before the NFL

Andy...92 hired in GB... 99 hired here...never a OC...didn't coach as many positions 

Siri...more years...more positions...more teams... same OC experience as Doug, 3 years more than Andy

It's not close...resume wise prior to the hire...Siri had more experience than either.

Chip didn't have any NFL experience. 

Siri was most qualified hire from Lurie...no questions about it when looking at the resume.

Probably due to having more experience than the other guys... they trust his ability to hire better assistant coaches....being he worked his way up longer and paid more dues.  Creating more relationships and not just in the same circles of the West Coast offense. 

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23 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

I would really LOVE to have Edge Rusher Jack Sawyer, OSU

Can he be had at 32? I really feel the Edge depth is what will need replenished first. I just don't see us landing Garrett. But who knows, Howie has pulled many rabbits out of hats lol.

Sawyer is a madman. Watch him in the 4th 1/4 of the championship game(OSU/ND). Probably not the best, but he will give you his all every play. He has  non stop motor. He never quits on a play

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14 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If your team just won the SB...i don't think you worry about your prior drafts...you obviously built a quality roster. So I wouldn't think twice about drafting any position...or not drafting it because of previous drafts. 

But for some reason I'm thinking they trade down from 32.   They  will need to lock in something to add depth to both DL spots 

Yep I said we should trade back into 2,maybe get Sawyer and Mason?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yep I said we should trade back into 2,maybe get Sawyer and Mason?

I'm all about the contracts now... this is the time Howie sets everything up creating cap space and locking guys up!  

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Just comparing resumes prior...Siri was the largest 

I mean it’s ok that you point out our GM wouldn’t hire coaches that demanded much power. He did hire Fangio now. Really worked out for us.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So that should be another $6.5 mil cap savings...  so a little over $15 mil created so far with the 3 moves of Barkley,  Bradberry and Slay. 

I agree with the comp picks... I don't expect outside FAs... but could mean we resign more than one guy?

I expect us to target resigning several…of the lesser guys. Oren Burks be a good one. Fred Johnson, Maddox and Driscoll be good signings…but no rush on them. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Probably due to having more experience than the other guys... they trust his ability to hire better assistant coaches....being he worked his way up longer and paid more dues.  Creating more relationships and not just in the same circles of the West Coast offense. 

He had the connection to Gannon he brought with him and Patullo. Then after winning this SB now he got the power again to hire his guy by promoting Patullo…probably the QB coach from Bowling Green St. Kind of hard to balk on the HC just won the SB. We know very well around here that credit doesn’t last long. But don’t think it’s as crucial on Rosie’s  ego this time being it’s his second now. He doesn’t have to prove so much it’s all him anymore. Which makes him all the better doing his job.

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sawyer is a madman. Watch him in the 4th 1/4 of the championship game(OSU/ND). Probably not the best, but he will give you his all every play. He has  non stop motor. He never quits on a play

I wonder with him if it will really translate though. I‘M not so sure he’ll be a star in the NFL. Looking at that grouping of day three Edge players think I might be just as happy with as Sawyer. Feels like a real nice sweet spot in this draft being it has some depth there.

26 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I'm all about the contracts now... this is the time Howie sets everything up creating cap space and locking guys up!  

So what’s up with extending Saquan? Seems pretty crazy. Haven’t heard the details yet.

2 year 41 mil extension? What? Why? We signed him for three years already. Figured the plan was to ride him hard and milk that last juice out of him to the max. Could have been just two years …but had him under contract for three. Why would you add two more years on?

36 mil guaranteed? What?

Ride him hard for two or three years…was a good original plan. 

Investing big in a RB coming off a massive touch load for his thirties?

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I mean it’s ok that you point out our GM wouldn’t hire coaches that demanded much power. He did hire Fangio now. Really worked out for us.

I thought hiring the coach was specifically Lurie?

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He had the connection to Gannon he brought with him and Patullo. Then after winning this SB now he got the power again to hire his guy by promoting Patullo…probably the QB coach from Bowling Green St. Kind of hard to balk on the HC just won the SB. We know very well around here that credit doesn’t last long. But don’t think it’s as crucial on Rosie’s  ego this time being it’s his second now. He doesn’t have to prove so much it’s all him anymore. Which makes him all the better doing his job.

But they didn't really seem to trust Doug with the same stuff...probably with lack of resume working his way up.  He was only under Andy.  Similar to Andy really only having his original guys with success. 

40 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So what’s up with extending Saquan? Seems pretty crazy. Haven’t heard the details yet.

Rewarding his great season.  Opens up $6.5 mil of cap space...roughly...and the ability to lock him in and use the void years later.  

I know you don't comprehend the last part of why the pushing the dead money is a great tool... but I'm guessing similar to finally getting how the team was improving all year....eventually you will understand how that pushing money..if done correctly,  is a great tool to manage the cap.  You will come around soon. Might take a few minutes of your time  to do some research or just the ability to trust other people's opinions on here.  Or just finally seeing how we continue to have cap space.  

39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Investing big in a RB coming off a massive touch load for his thirties?

Ham... remember you always say " the players take a team friendly deal" including your boy Hurts.  It's not team friendly deals for the players.  Hurts is getting the most cash in the league...even now.  Barkley is rewarded with the cash.

But how it effects the cap...is a different thing.

Forget the years etc.  You have to get over the way a contract looks  on its surface. 

You see 5 years $50 million and you automatically think that's it.   You add 5 years to the age and that's how your mind works.   Maybe they still only get him for 3 years...maybe 4... maybe even 6 years if they rework his deal later where they convert cash to signing bonus and push the cap hits back to 2034?  

The contracts are fluid when they are long term.  That puts cash in the player's pocket ASAP...and gives the team cap flexibility. 

It's not always just about the numbers shown on the surface.

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